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Old 05-07-2020, 03:44 PM   #1
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College level league, "graduated" players disappearing

Some I am trying to run a long-term college level league. I've simmed 10 years, and I am seeing some unexpected results in the league history. It seems that all of the leaderboards and record book entries come from players still currently in the league; all older "graduated" players seem to have disappeared.

This is most obvious in the History - Awards page (see attached image). Only the most recent season has any stats associated with it; the names for the earlier years are all of current players -- for example, a current sophomore who would have been 9 years old in the year in which they are labeled as winning the award.

I'm wondering if I am missing a setting somewhere (I'm not deleting players who don't "reach the majors"), if it's a quirk of a college-level league I've not seen before, or if it's a bug. Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Old 05-07-2020, 09:30 PM   #2
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Hmm, I just started a college style league where drafting order roughly follows the football recruiting. I retire (or graduate) players at a certain age. I hope what you mention doesn't become a problem. Are you deleting or retiring players that graduate?
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Old 05-08-2020, 03:41 PM   #3
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Are you deleting or retiring players that graduate?
At this point, I am not doing anything with players. I was simming long-term to see what happened with them after their 4 years, etc. But I have not actively made any changes like that.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:17 PM   #4
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I'm wondering if I am missing a setting somewhere (I'm not deleting players who don't "reach the majors"), if it's a quirk of a college-level league I've not seen before, or if it's a bug. Any thoughts are appreciated.
I found something similar with a league I was running last year and raised the issue at the time on OOTP 20. I don't have 'delete those who never reached majors' selected either, but the players from the college leagues were deleted when they retired.

I only noticed after several years when I checked the history of one of the college leagues and found that a pitcher who had the only no-hitter in that league was no longer in the game. For me it was a dealbreaker and I ended that save, I'm now running a similar one in OOTP 21 with the college leagues set as 'major' but with much lower SPCMs, as this seemed to be the only way I could work around it.

I don't know that it's exactly the same set-up as yours, but most of my college players played for no other team (a few reached 'major league' teams, I don't have 'minor leagues'). I wonder whether maybe the setting for not deleting players doesn't work if the player only appears at college, and not for any major OR minor league team.

If so, it may be a bug, it may be by design or it might just be a scenario that was not considered - however, if it's by design that setting for 'delete those who never reached majors' should really be renamed as it is misleading.

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Old 05-11-2020, 03:38 PM   #5
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So I ran a new test based off of my quickstart, setting the league to a Major League level instead of a College level. I couldn't even get through a 10-year sim to compare. In the 5 years I did run, I encountered 4 different "game cannot be played; roster incomplete" errors such that I had to fill rosters with fictional players just to get it to continue. This might be due to the difference in how a college league fills the rosters each off-season as opposed to a major league without free agency.

So while this might solve my initial problem, it appears to open up many more.

I may take this and post it in the tech support forum to see what kind of answers I can get.
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