International Free Agents & Scouting Discoveries from...the United States?

[MidKnight]

Hi all,

Having a weird problem here that I just can't seem to resolve. I've been trying to track it down in my fictional league for a while now, for a few OOTP versions at least. I'm sure it has to do with a setting somewhere...but I don't know which one! I'm hoping someone has the magic solution.

I'm getting international free agents and scouting discoveries appearing from the United States, despite this being where my primary league nation is set. To try and prevent this, I've:

• Manually set International Origin to only the (non-US) countries I specified, with 0% coming from random origin
• Manually set International Established FA Origin to only the (non-US) countries I specified, with 0% coming from random origin
• Set my two international leagues to not have any international scouting discoveries or FA

No luck yet -- they're still appearing for me in both situations. Any wisdom from the crowd would be much appreciated! Bonus difficulty: this has been a league I've been playing from...ooh...about OOTP8? So it's possible something strange occurred in an import along the way.

[Bluenoser]

What does it say in the player history as to where they originated from?

[MidKnight]

The US! The league's top prospect is a pitcher who was a scouting discovery in the United States. He was born in New Jersey and is currently in a team's International Complex.

Every year, the top ~50% of my international FAs show up as American. I go in and edit them to other countries, but I'm definitely missing the scouting discoveries.

[USF]

Originally Posted by MidKnight

Hi all,

Having a weird problem here that I just can't seem to resolve. I've been trying to track it down in my fictional league for a while now, for a few OOTP versions at least. I'm sure it has to do with a setting somewhere...but I don't know which one! I'm hoping someone has the magic solution.

I'm getting international free agents and scouting discoveries appearing from the United States, despite this being where my primary league nation is set. To try and prevent this, I've:

• Manually set International Origin to only the (non-US) countries I specified, with 0% coming from random origin
• Manually set International Established FA Origin to only the (non-US) countries I specified, with 0% coming from random origin
• Set my two international leagues to not have any international scouting discoveries or FA

No luck yet -- they're still appearing for me in both situations. Any wisdom from the crowd would be much appreciated! Bonus difficulty: this has been a league I've been playing from...ooh...about OOTP8? So it's possible something strange occurred in an import along the way.

Thats strange, we use the League Settings/Player Options to identify the countries that those finds come from and haven't had a US player come up before.

[Bluenoser]

Odd, do you have your League set to a specific region?

[MidKnight]

Nope -- no region specified! The league's nation is set to the United States, as are all team nations.

[Bluenoser]

Well I'm stumped. I don't know what else to try. I have my scouting discoveries set like this, and it works fine.

Should note, I don't have International Players entering any other way than scouting discoveries, so not sure if that has a bearing on it or not.

Sorry can't be of more help.

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[wallewalls]

Yeah I was just checking my game's top prospects and there are a few where they are scouting discoveries from the US. I don't think I changed any of my settings as far as where scouting discoveries are generated from

[MidKnight]

No problem, Bluenoser -- thanks for looking into it! My settings are similar to yours.

And wallewalls, glad to hear that I'm not alone on this. The prospects tend to be very good because of (I assume) the baseball quality of the nation. Is it possible there's some .dat file somewhere that got a little out of sorts during an import?

[WIUPIKE]

Can you take a picture of a history of a player in question.

[MidKnight]

Sure! Images below:

William Warren, scouting discovery out of the USA:




Some of the important league settings:

[jimmysthebestcop]

The only thing that I see that is weird is Puerto Rico shouldn't have scouting discoveries because those players are part of the north american draft.

And your %'s seem completely off. It is far from the default. The default is like 54% Dominican Republic, 29% Venezuela Mexico about 3.3% and a handful of South American and Central American Countries under 2%.

Click on functions and then "reset to modern major league default"

[jpeters1734]

do you have any other leagues in your game with scouting discoveries?

[Number5]

Why is there a big deal about this? This guy is American, went god knows where, and now is international in terms of the draft, but American by passport and heritage.

[MidKnight]

Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

The only thing that I see that is weird is Puerto Rico shouldn't have scouting discoveries because those players are part of the north american draft.

And your %'s seem completely off. It is far from the default. The default is like 54% Dominican Republic, 29% Venezuela Mexico about 3.3% and a handful of South American and Central American Countries under 2%.

Click on functions and then "reset to modern major league default"

Oops! I should have clarified -- I modified the defaults as part of my tests to fix this issue. I did reset it back to defaults now, though the issues were happening before the modifications. The note on Puerto Rico is interesting -- I didn't realize I had it set for amateur draft, as well. I'll see if that clears it up.

To answer other questions:

• I did already disable international FA/scouting discoveries on all other major leagues
• This problem ends up being significant because of the high baseball quality of the US. The top players and prospects in the game end up coming as US-based scouting discoveries and international FA signings

[jimmysthebestcop]

Originally Posted by MidKnight

Oops! I should have clarified -- I modified the defaults as part of my tests to fix this issue. I did reset it back to defaults now, though the issues were happening before the modifications. The note on Puerto Rico is interesting -- I didn't realize I had it set for amateur draft, as well. I'll see if that clears it up.

To answer other questions:

• I did already disable international FA/scouting discoveries on all other major leagues
• This problem ends up being significant because of the high baseball quality of the US. The top players and prospects in the game end up coming as US-based scouting discoveries and international FA signings

Yeah Puerto Rico being a territory of USA are draft-able just like USA proper and Canada. I'm sure a couple other territories fall under that domain but they just would never actually have any baseball players there.

Korea and Cuba could be weird since they could have their own leagues and their players have to go that route. Not sure what it is like if you are playing some kind of historical fictional league with house rules. But generally speaking in a default setup you can't discover from countries who have their own Major League.Example you can't discover from Korea but you could discover from Germany cause the German league isn't a major league.

[MBarrett]

I just noticed the exact same thing in my solo fictional league. I'm getting Americans and Puerto Ricans showing up in the International Amateur FAs. Obviously neither of which are selected in the International Origin section of Player Settings.

[SirMichaelJordan]

Originally Posted by MBarrett

I just noticed the exact same thing in my solo fictional league. I'm getting Americans and Puerto Ricans showing up in the International Amateur FAs. Obviously neither of which are selected in the International Origin section of Player Settings.

This will occasionally happen if you have an % set for random.

[MBarrett]

Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

This will occasionally happen if you have an % set for random.

Random % is set to 0.00

[daveryan]

That's a helluva beard for a 16-year-old....