About market sizes (again)

[NoOne]

so, an 'older' thread this year was engaged in how it all works etc.

so, i have a 100+ year '18 league. an important note is that teams only play within their 10-team division. so if one team is successful long-term, it reduces the wins of the other teams (all has to add upto "1", etc). i have an effect on those 9 teams and they are drastically different markets while the rest of the league remained fairly balanced -- if one moved up, one likely moved down so it looks similar.

i was looking over the "Team Finances" tab of "Team Statistics and Info." It was a drastic effect after 100+ years. success, or lack of, definitely influences what happens to market size. it merely takes a very extended amount of it for it to become distinguishable from other factors invovled.

i still think there's a random element, of course. but success/lack of will push that randomness one way or another a small amount.

all my divisions added up to the same total market size. there were 2-3 at top, 2-3 at bottom and ~4-5 in middle (1-10). think i gave vegas and mets an "11" in the other 2 divisions. the mets did not do as well as vegas without my help, lol. they got the leftover leftovers.

in my division everyone has gone down except the 2 other teams. one started with a 'larger' market and one has moved up from a ~4/5ish to a "big" market (i forget what big is.. 7? or 8.) that was cleveland and they had long stretches of success over this century too. most of my teams in my division have the worst winpct of entire league, because i steal ~30+ wins more than a typical 'top' team per year in the divisions. average of over 3wins less per team, and affects those at bottom more so than the ones at the top, since they are more likley to lose, obviously.

in Vegas's division, this trend isn't very pronounced, if at all. it is non-existent in the mets' division.

in an extreme case it draws out the effect. relative to a competitive environment, the amount of consistent success required will make this a mostly random effect in most leagues.

if a couple teams get lucky and get that 'bump' during a 5year stretch and lucky enough not to lose it as they go through a down-cycle in wins, or vice versa with lack of successs... thy may move in one direction... but it would be difficult to do consistently (ie all 30 teams.. maybe 1 or 2+ change a lot).

*if you don't play within a small group of teams (like division only opponents within a larger league), this won't show up even if you win 162 games a year, becaue the effect would be spread out more. if you did this wiht 5 team divisions, i bet it'd be even more pronounced because it would almost ensure a losing record for thos 4 teams in perpetuity, no matter how good they actually are.. those teams are doomed, lol.