Humble request for some future version

Caporegime · 03-28-2018, 05:33 PM

Please make some provision where both the name files & the world-default file are not automatically overwritten during an update. At the very least, please provide a popup or reminder of some kind stating that these files will be overwritten during the update process.

This has actually been a perennial issue with OOTP, but it's more of a pressing one in 19 because of the changes that have been made to how the game handles names/ethnicities. We can now add as many names/ethnicities to the game as we want, meaning that hours upon hours of work can easily be overwritten during the installation of a patch if you're not careful....which sometimes, I'll admit, I'm not.

Of course, I'm always careful to backup up my files, but there are times when I lose track of which version of a name file (I edit them a lot, especially during historical sims) is loaded in the game, or if I even remembered to reload them at all after the last patch update.

Yes, sometimes things have to be made idiot-proof for idiots. Therefore, as idiot #1, I hereby humbly request something...anything...that could make the loss of this data less likely during a patch installation.

Lukas Berger · 03-28-2018, 06:40 PM

Good idea! I mentioned this to Andreas and logged it in our db, we will see what comes of it

andyhdz · 03-28-2018, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caporegime

Please make some provision where both the name files & the world-default file are not automatically overwritten during an update. At the very least, please provide a popup or reminder of some kind stating that these files will be overwritten during the update process.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if you make a bunch of changes to the world-default file and start up a new league or update that league with the modified world-default you are set. When the patch is installed yes it will overwrite your world-default file but your league should still have the changes correct? So yes you have to remember to make a back of your world file but your league should still be good. Yes?

Ktulu · 03-28-2018, 07:12 PM

That is correct.

Bluenoser · 03-28-2018, 07:14 PM

Exactly - any league already started won't be affected by those changes unless you re-import in league setup.

DB930 · 03-29-2018, 03:56 AM

Anytime there's a patch, before installing it I always go into my OOTP folder and rename the caps, jerseys, logos, database, bbcards, and ballparks subfolders (to bak_caps, bak_jerseys, etc.). Then after patching, I delete the new versions of these folders and restore the names of the "bak_"'d ones.

It would be cool if the game could eventually get a "mods" subfolder that the game would check first, and use any files it found there in place of the default ones...

koohead · 03-29-2018, 01:53 PM

the one that always gets me is the injury.txt file since I manually edit out CEIs.

Rosco Peabody · 03-30-2018, 10:55 AM

OH NO!!!!!!

I didn't realize that the update would overwrite my work and I did just that. Spent hours on the world_default file without making a backup!!!

Rosco Peabody · 03-30-2018, 11:01 AM

I am so upset right now....

I spent so many days on that names file changing the frequencies of names to what I wanted....

I had no idea an update would erase it...Oh my gosh, what an idiot I am.....

Rosco Peabody · 03-30-2018, 11:09 AM

This was one of the most unenjoyable tasks I have ever done for an OOTP game, but I feel like I can't play it until I redo the frequencies. But I really don't want to redo it. Does anyone know a shortcut to redoing frequencies other than manually redoing them? I just lost about a week of my life because of not backing up...

Caporegime · 03-30-2018, 11:14 AM

Sorry to hear about that, Rosco. Trust me, you're not the only one. It's probably little consolation, but I can confirm that this has happened to at least one other person who posts here, and I see him every time I look in a mirror.

Rosco Peabody · 03-30-2018, 11:26 AM

The only other time something like this happened, I lost two seasons of a league that I play out every pitch. I was so devastated that I didn't play OOTP for almost a full year.

I don't think that will happen this time, but I don't know what to do. I don't want to continue with my season until I fix the name frequencies......but I really don't want to sit there and do that again.....

Rosco Peabody · 03-30-2018, 11:50 AM

I feel like I remember someone changing frequencies as well. Is there anyone who would be willing to copy their names file?

Ktulu · 03-30-2018, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosco Peabody

I don't think that will happen this time, but I don't know what to do. I don't want to continue with my season until I fix the name frequencies......but I really don't want to sit there and do that again.....

If you already started your season it will have used the world file from when you originally created the league. So if you created the league with your modified file you're good to go with that league.

Rosco Peabody · 03-30-2018, 01:14 PM

Well I had started the league long before I edited the name file. But then I reimported it in

03-28-2018, 06:40 PM	#2
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,890	Good idea! I mentioned this to Andreas and logged it in our db, we will see what comes of it __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com Pre-Order Out of the Park Baseball 27! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

03-28-2018, 07:12 PM	#4
Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,697	That is correct. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

03-29-2018, 01:53 PM	#7
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,228	the one that always gets me is the injury.txt file since I manually edit out CEIs. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

03-30-2018, 11:14 AM	#11
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	Sorry to hear about that, Rosco. Trust me, you're not the only one. It's probably little consolation, but I can confirm that this has happened to at least one other person who posts here, and I see him every time I look in a mirror. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra

03-28-2018, 05:33 PM	#1
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	Humble request for some future version Please make some provision where both the name files & the world-default file are not automatically overwritten during an update. At the very least, please provide a popup or reminder of some kind stating that these files will be overwritten during the update process. This has actually been a perennial issue with OOTP, but it's more of a pressing one in 19 because of the changes that have been made to how the game handles names/ethnicities. We can now add as many names/ethnicities to the game as we want, meaning that hours upon hours of work can easily be overwritten during the installation of a patch if you're not careful....which sometimes, I'll admit, I'm not. Of course, I'm always careful to backup up my files, but there are times when I lose track of which version of a name file (I edit them a lot, especially during historical sims) is loaded in the game, or if I even remembered to reload them at all after the last patch update. Yes, sometimes things have to be made idiot-proof for idiots. Therefore, as idiot #1, I hereby humbly request something...anything...that could make the loss of this data less likely during a patch installation. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra Last edited by Caporegime; 03-28-2018 at 05:40 PM.

03-28-2018, 07:14 PM	#5
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,399	Exactly - any league already started won't be affected by those changes unless you re-import in league setup.

03-29-2018, 03:56 AM	#6
DB930 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 302	Anytime there's a patch, before installing it I always go into my OOTP folder and rename the caps, jerseys, logos, database, bbcards, and ballparks subfolders (to bak_caps, bak_jerseys, etc.). Then after patching, I delete the new versions of these folders and restore the names of the "bak_"'d ones. It would be cool if the game could eventually get a "mods" subfolder that the game would check first, and use any files it found there in place of the default ones...

03-30-2018, 10:55 AM	#8
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	OH NO!!!!!! I didn't realize that the update would overwrite my work and I did just that. Spent hours on the world_default file without making a backup!!!

03-30-2018, 11:01 AM	#9
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	I am so upset right now.... I spent so many days on that names file changing the frequencies of names to what I wanted.... I had no idea an update would erase it...Oh my gosh, what an idiot I am.....

03-30-2018, 11:09 AM	#10
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	This was one of the most unenjoyable tasks I have ever done for an OOTP game, but I feel like I can't play it until I redo the frequencies. But I really don't want to redo it. Does anyone know a shortcut to redoing frequencies other than manually redoing them? I just lost about a week of my life because of not backing up...

03-30-2018, 11:26 AM	#12
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	The only other time something like this happened, I lost two seasons of a league that I play out every pitch. I was so devastated that I didn't play OOTP for almost a full year. I don't think that will happen this time, but I don't know what to do. I don't want to continue with my season until I fix the name frequencies......but I really don't want to sit there and do that again.....

03-30-2018, 11:50 AM	#13
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	I feel like I remember someone changing frequencies as well. Is there anyone who would be willing to copy their names file?

03-30-2018, 01:14 PM	#15
Rosco Peabody All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South of Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,092	Well I had started the league long before I edited the name file. But then I reimported it in