Spritze most recent database

HuachucaThunder · 12-01-2017, 07:16 PM

I have seen many talking of the Spritze database that contains many more players than the default one that is with OOTP.
I am probably looking right at it, but I cannot seem to find it. Does someone have the link or location that it is located at?
Any help would be aprreciated

mitchkenn · 12-01-2017, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HuachucaThunder

I have seen many talking of the Spritze database that contains many more players than the default one that is with OOTP.
I am probably looking right at it, but I cannot seem to find it. Does someone have the link or location that it is located at?
Any help would be aprreciated

here a link ... the post is in the mods section, under databases - spritze 11 ...

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...&postcount=989

here's a link that includes a few other posts ... same pages, just not the individual post with the above link.
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...47#post4234347

HuachucaThunder · 12-02-2017, 04:40 PM

Thanks! I probably looked at it 4 or 5 times. The help is appreciated.

Jeff1787 · 03-11-2018, 12:33 PM

I have been using Spritze's database version 18 to manually import Negro League players into a random historical league. I also use it to manually import some Minor League players who had successful careers. Everything seems to work out fine. I use neutralized stats and I import them using the neutralized stats selection. I use the import year of their professional baseball debut.

Now I have tried to import some MLB players so their careers would start when they were 18, instead of say 38.

I found Spritze's DB has different totals then the OOTP 18 DB. I used Eddie Mathews, Barry Bonds and Lou Gehrig as examples:

Now, I'm not sure which DB to use for importing. I guess the differences aren't that much, so maybe I'm splitting hairs!

NoOne · 03-11-2018, 08:56 PM

yeah i don't see much of a different that can't be explined by simply a new iteration of that same time period and difference in stuff like injuries etc.

you need the same mix of players each time too.. competition will matter. changin their ages can affect results too.. longer careers ..maybe shorter w/e the case.

the difference in neutralized average for matthews is the only suspect one.

at the least it is consistently a bit lower for average... you could bump hits LTM and reduce power numbers appropriately as to not influate other numbers while increasing BA.... e.g. if it adds 1,000 hits to league-wide stats, then calculate based on current League Totals ratio (NOT modifieres for this calculation) for singles/doubles/triples/hr and figure that many of each will occur out of those "extra" 1000hits.. then reduce those related LTM for doubles/triples/hr to scale to new results due to increased BA (singles/hits ltm already ajdusted from before - just 2b/3b/hr after that).

playing with LTM should be able to adjust anythign you don't like about either method or either DB... i'd look at different distrubution of resutls and choose that way, i guess...

e.g. max single season hr during that time tested. maybe you like what happened in spritze ofer ootp etc.. or maybe it's not jsut about max but leaguewide what you see.. although look slike it should be similar regardless.

nutt · 03-14-2018, 10:50 AM

Does Spritze's database include historical players from CPBL, TML, LMB, KBO, and ***?

Jeff1787 · 03-14-2018, 12:39 PM

MLB, MiLB, Negro, Japanese, Korean

actionjackson · 03-14-2018, 01:23 PM

I asked in the Spritze DB thread in the Mods section, but I'll ask again here. Spritze uploaded the Master.csv file to dropbox about five months ago. That one appears to have disappeared. Anyone know where I can get a copy? Anyone have a dropbox account that can upload it to said account for their tardy and soon to be best friend?

Spritze · 03-14-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

I asked in the Spritze DB thread in the Mods section, but I'll ask again here. Spritze uploaded the Master.csv file to dropbox about five months ago. That one appears to have disappeared. Anyone know where I can get a copy? Anyone have a dropbox account that can upload it to said account for their tardy and soon to be best friend?

The master.csv contains some OOTP propriatry information now. I will be making three Masters for the 3 databases that will only contain player names, ID's, debut dates, career end dates. These will appear a few days after the game comes out.

actionjackson · 03-14-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

The master.csv contains some OOTP propriatry information now. I will be making three Masters for the 3 databases that will only contain player names, ID's, debut dates, career end dates. These will appear a few days after the game comes out.

Thank you, thank you, thank you sir.

Jeff1787 · 03-14-2018, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

The master.csv contains some OOTP propriatry information now. I will be making three Masters for the 3 databases that will only contain player names, ID's, debut dates, career end dates. These will appear a few days after the game comes out.

What are the three DB's? MLB, Milb and ?

actionjackson · 03-14-2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff1787

What are the three DB's? MLB, Milb and ?

MLB, MiLB, and Spritze I assume.

Spritze · 03-14-2018, 02:27 PM

Yeah just those three. The super model database is not finished yet.

mitchkenn · 03-14-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Yeah just those three. The super model database is not finished yet.

we're really waiting for that supermodel database. It was going to be the core of my Alt. League in 19.

NoOne · 03-14-2018, 03:15 PM

if that'st he case, i might start playing out games next year.

...

no, not really. but, might have to add some columns for additional physical attributes data, being supermodels and all. 14-14-14 - yeah what a woman should look like, lol. all that dope and vomitting does wonders.

nutt · 03-14-2018, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Yeah just those three. The super model database is not finished yet.

So its just Negro Leagues, Japanese, Korean?

Super Model? What will this entail? What about Cuban, Taiwanese, Dutch, etc.?

Spritze · 03-14-2018, 06:00 PM

MLB, MiLB, and Spritze

Please read the preceding posts if you don't know what these are.

Reading is fundamental.

actionjackson · 03-14-2018, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutt

So its just Negro Leagues, Japanese, Korean?

Super Model? What will this entail? What about Cuban, Taiwanese, Dutch, etc.?

Excellent summation from another thread here:

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Spritze db contains ONLY MLE's for MLB, MiLB, Negro, Japanese, Korean.

Built in regular DB contains only real stats for MiLB and MLB and Negro (NO Japanese or Korean)

Built in Neutered DB only has neutered stats for MLB players (NO MiLB, Negro, Japanese or Korean)

Reading these posts it appears you may be mixing them up at times.

I believe there are some Taiwanese (I've seen at least one) and Cubans in the Spritze DB. I haven't seen Dutch yet, but there may be some in there. Only the Spritze knows for sure.

mitchkenn · 03-14-2018, 07:21 PM

among many others, here are some of the countries in Spritze database.
many from:
Cuba - Japan - Mexico - South Korea - Taiwan - USA
also some (a few?) entries from
Aruba, Curacao , Ukraine, Switzerland, Holland and the ever popular Etc.

RMc · 03-20-2018, 11:23 AM

I hope the supermodel database has enough players for my Ridiculously Large League (tm)...

12-01-2017, 07:16 PM	#1
HuachucaThunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 211	Spritze most recent database I have seen many talking of the Spritze database that contains many more players than the default one that is with OOTP. I am probably looking right at it, but I cannot seem to find it. Does someone have the link or location that it is located at? Any help would be aprreciated

03-11-2018, 12:33 PM	#4
Jeff1787 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Doghouse Posts: 3,535	I have been using Spritze's database version 18 to manually import Negro League players into a random historical league. I also use it to manually import some Minor League players who had successful careers. Everything seems to work out fine. I use neutralized stats and I import them using the neutralized stats selection. I use the import year of their professional baseball debut. Now I have tried to import some MLB players so their careers would start when they were 18, instead of say 38. I found Spritze's DB has different totals then the OOTP 18 DB. I used Eddie Mathews, Barry Bonds and Lou Gehrig as examples: Now, I'm not sure which DB to use for importing. I guess the differences aren't that much, so maybe I'm splitting hairs! __________________ 1903: The hatchet is finally buried

03-11-2018, 08:56 PM	#5
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 1/2 (4)	yeah i don't see much of a different that can't be explined by simply a new iteration of that same time period and difference in stuff like injuries etc. you need the same mix of players each time too.. competition will matter. changin their ages can affect results too.. longer careers ..maybe shorter w/e the case. the difference in neutralized average for matthews is the only suspect one. at the least it is consistently a bit lower for average... you could bump hits LTM and reduce power numbers appropriately as to not influate other numbers while increasing BA.... e.g. if it adds 1,000 hits to league-wide stats, then calculate based on current League Totals ratio (NOT modifieres for this calculation) for singles/doubles/triples/hr and figure that many of each will occur out of those "extra" 1000hits.. then reduce those related LTM for doubles/triples/hr to scale to new results due to increased BA (singles/hits ltm already ajdusted from before - just 2b/3b/hr after that). playing with LTM should be able to adjust anythign you don't like about either method or either DB... i'd look at different distrubution of resutls and choose that way, i guess... e.g. max single season hr during that time tested. maybe you like what happened in spritze ofer ootp etc.. or maybe it's not jsut about max but leaguewide what you see.. although look slike it should be similar regardless. Last edited by NoOne; 03-11-2018 at 08:59 PM.

03-14-2018, 12:39 PM	#7
Jeff1787 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Doghouse Posts: 3,535	MLB, MiLB, Negro, Japanese, Korean __________________ 1903: The hatchet is finally buried

03-14-2018, 02:27 PM	#13
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Yeah just those three. The super model database is not finished yet. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

12-02-2017, 04:40 PM	#3
HuachucaThunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 211	Thanks! I probably looked at it 4 or 5 times. The help is appreciated.

03-14-2018, 10:50 AM	#6
nutt OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,190	Does Spritze's database include historical players from CPBL, TML, LMB, KBO, and ***?

03-14-2018, 01:23 PM	#8
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,163	I asked in the Spritze DB thread in the Mods section, but I'll ask again here. Spritze uploaded the Master.csv file to dropbox about five months ago. That one appears to have disappeared. Anyone know where I can get a copy? Anyone have a dropbox account that can upload it to said account for their tardy and soon to be best friend?

03-14-2018, 03:15 PM	#15
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 1/2 (4)	if that'st he case, i might start playing out games next year. ... no, not really. but, might have to add some columns for additional physical attributes data, being supermodels and all. 14-14-14 - yeah what a woman should look like, lol. all that dope and vomitting does wonders.

03-14-2018, 06:00 PM	#17
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	MLB, MiLB, and Spritze Please read the preceding posts if you don't know what these are. Reading is fundamental. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

03-14-2018, 07:21 PM	#19
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	among many others, here are some of the countries in Spritze database. many from: Cuba - Japan - Mexico - South Korea - Taiwan - USA also some (a few?) entries from Aruba, Curacao , Ukraine, Switzerland, Holland and the ever popular Etc. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

03-20-2018, 11:23 AM	#20
RMc All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,643	I hope the supermodel database has enough players for my Ridiculously Large League (tm)... __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."