Why does my knuckleballer always throw fastballs

Baseballman2K5 · 08-30-2017, 09:08 PM

I've noticed this the past few starts with a knuckleballer in my rotation...

He was pitching a gem into the 8th when he started giving up hits and i noticed every pitch was a fastball, figuring it was fatigue i got the bullpen ready and wrote it off as such. Next start no issues or fastballs thrown.....now in his 3rd start, 21 pitches into the game and in the second inning all he is throwing are 81-85 mph fastballs that are getting crushed. "Fastball" is not even in his list of pitches he throws....and on normal starts he is knuckleball heavy with a curve and changeup.

da f...? is this a new "realism" to the injury part of the game, where i need to recognize when a pitcher is not right? or is this a straight bug? its curious that its inconsistent when this fastball spree shows up. note: mound visits claim he is completely fine.

Baseballman2K5 · 08-30-2017, 10:40 PM

update: his 4th start he went 6.1 ip 3er 10Ks, 110 pitches and not one fastball. i guess when he throws his fastball its a sign he isnt right?

r0nster · 08-31-2017, 08:55 AM

how do you know his pitch selection throughout his game ???

Painmantle · 08-31-2017, 04:32 PM

When your knuckleball doesn't "Knuckle" It looks like a Fastball, only slower...and yes, those pitches get pounded

Baseballman2K5 · 08-31-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by r0nster

how do you know his pitch selection throughout his game ???

I believe you only can if you play your games out, here:

Baseballman2K5 · 08-31-2017, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

When your knuckleball doesn't "Knuckle" It looks like a Fastball, only slower...and yes, those pitches get pounded

True. I guess it's part of the game rather than a bug. I'll have to watch out for his 81 mph fastballs!

Charley575 · 09-03-2017, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Painmantle

When your knuckleball doesn't "Knuckle" It looks like a Fastball, only slower...and yes, those pitches get pounded

Not at 81mph, however. A good knuckleball is like 55mph. I remember Charlie Hough used to throw an 80-ish fastball that he would use almost like a change of pace off his knuckler, but faster instead of slower.

NoOne · 09-03-2017, 03:15 PM

i don't think ootp confuses pitches when thrown poorly. -- or however that affect is modeled in the game

in general, how many pitches of each thrown is based somewhat on the ratio of the individual ratings of each.

80 / 60 and hte 80 is thrown more... 80/80 ? if like real life and one is a fastball, you might guess it's thrown more even if even with another pithc, but maybe not... i've never looked into it, but how well a pitch is rated does affect frequency of use.

08-30-2017, 09:08 PM	#1
Baseballman2K5 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 506	Why does my knuckleballer always throw fastballs I've noticed this the past few starts with a knuckleballer in my rotation... He was pitching a gem into the 8th when he started giving up hits and i noticed every pitch was a fastball, figuring it was fatigue i got the bullpen ready and wrote it off as such. Next start no issues or fastballs thrown.....now in his 3rd start, 21 pitches into the game and in the second inning all he is throwing are 81-85 mph fastballs that are getting crushed. "Fastball" is not even in his list of pitches he throws....and on normal starts he is knuckleball heavy with a curve and changeup. da f...? is this a new "realism" to the injury part of the game, where i need to recognize when a pitcher is not right? or is this a straight bug? its curious that its inconsistent when this fastball spree shows up. note: mound visits claim he is completely fine.

08-31-2017, 04:32 PM	#4
Painmantle Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Greenfield ,IN Posts: 3,053	When your knuckleball doesn't "Knuckle" It looks like a Fastball, only slower...and yes, those pitches get pounded __________________ “As soon as I got out there I felt a strange relationship with the pitcher's mound. It was as if I'd been born out there. Pitching just felt like the most natural thing in the world. Striking out batters was easy.” -Babe Ruth “Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week, he might have lasted a long time and become a great star.”-Tris Speaker My Dynasties The Beantown Bambino

09-03-2017, 03:15 PM	#8
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	i don't think ootp confuses pitches when thrown poorly. -- or however that affect is modeled in the game in general, how many pitches of each thrown is based somewhat on the ratio of the individual ratings of each. 80 / 60 and hte 80 is thrown more... 80/80 ? if like real life and one is a fastball, you might guess it's thrown more even if even with another pithc, but maybe not... i've never looked into it, but how well a pitch is rated does affect frequency of use. Last edited by NoOne; 09-03-2017 at 03:18 PM.

08-30-2017, 10:40 PM	#2
Baseballman2K5 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 506	update: his 4th start he went 6.1 ip 3er 10Ks, 110 pitches and not one fastball. i guess when he throws his fastball its a sign he isnt right?

08-31-2017, 08:55 AM	#3
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,072	how do you know his pitch selection throughout his game ???