1+3 - Infield In - Stealing 2B

Giants44 · 05-17-2017, 05:30 PM

so in "real" baseball with runners at 1+3 we never play the IF all the way in unless it is the winning run. the reason is with the 1B in and unable to hold the runner and both middle infielders in they have to make an awkward backwards run to cover 2B on steal attempt. this is not good for getting the runner out AND impossible to run a read play (take the out at 2b, or cut and take it at home if runner from 3b goes)

So the normal defense for this is corners in. 3B is regular in. 2b/ss are double play depth to cover steal and turn 2. 1B holds and then comes in. gives you a shot at cutting off run and at DB and protects vs steal.

in real life whenever we see IF all the way vs 1+3 in that is an automatic steal of 2nd for us no matter how fat and slow the runner is. 98% of the time with no throw. 1% of the time with a stupid throw that an IF saves from getting through and 1% of the time with a stupid throw that ends up in CF. I have never had a runner thrown out at 2b with the IF in. and even if they did my runner from 3b would score every time because you cannot run a read play with the IF in.

Great, nice, old fat coach. whatever. but my whole point is when playing OOTP I see teams playing the IF in vs 1+3 and I see them throwing out runners at 2b whit no consequences as the runner at 3B politely watches and stays on the bag.

My hope\suggestion is

- when stealing 2b vs IF in the chance for safe should be increased by X%. My suggestion would be 99% - but I would settle for something like 90%. Not sure if there is any boost now.

- also when stealing 2b vs IF in and the throw goes through the runner from 3B (especially anyone of even above average speed) should go home and also get a massive bonus.

bottom line vs 1+3 teams should play corners in and if they dont they should suffer the consequences of their poor decision.

and YES I did just get a runner thrown out in this circumstance in a playoff game vs the hated dodgers.

05-17-2017, 05:30 PM	#1
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	1+3 - Infield In - Stealing 2B so in "real" baseball with runners at 1+3 we never play the IF all the way in unless it is the winning run. the reason is with the 1B in and unable to hold the runner and both middle infielders in they have to make an awkward backwards run to cover 2B on steal attempt. this is not good for getting the runner out AND impossible to run a read play (take the out at 2b, or cut and take it at home if runner from 3b goes) So the normal defense for this is corners in. 3B is regular in. 2b/ss are double play depth to cover steal and turn 2. 1B holds and then comes in. gives you a shot at cutting off run and at DB and protects vs steal. in real life whenever we see IF all the way vs 1+3 in that is an automatic steal of 2nd for us no matter how fat and slow the runner is. 98% of the time with no throw. 1% of the time with a stupid throw that an IF saves from getting through and 1% of the time with a stupid throw that ends up in CF. I have never had a runner thrown out at 2b with the IF in. and even if they did my runner from 3b would score every time because you cannot run a read play with the IF in. Great, nice, old fat coach. whatever. but my whole point is when playing OOTP I see teams playing the IF in vs 1+3 and I see them throwing out runners at 2b whit no consequences as the runner at 3B politely watches and stays on the bag. My hope\suggestion is - when stealing 2b vs IF in the chance for safe should be increased by X%. My suggestion would be 99% - but I would settle for something like 90%. Not sure if there is any boost now. - also when stealing 2b vs IF in and the throw goes through the runner from 3B (especially anyone of even above average speed) should go home and also get a massive bonus. bottom line vs 1+3 teams should play corners in and if they dont they should suffer the consequences of their poor decision. and YES I did just get a runner thrown out in this circumstance in a playoff game vs the hated dodgers. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah Last edited by Giants44; 05-17-2017 at 05:31 PM.