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Old 02-08-2017, 04:11 PM   #1
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Female players

Yes, someday I'd like this.

And don't get all genderiffic with me or I'll sic Doris Sams on you.
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Actually in that case give me softballl players
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Actually in that case give me softballl players
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That's why Marcus made an editor. So fantasies can be played in game.

At least now I don't feel so bad about editing Brien Taylor and Ed Hearn into Sandy Koufax and Johnny Bench, respectively. I've got nothing on Hammercraft.
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Old 02-08-2017, 09:03 PM   #6
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I would love this. Whether it's one or two baseball players, or a softball league - female players would be awesome.
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I'll add my voice in favor of this. The AAGPBL was a legit pro ball league. We now have nearly every other historical league, so why not this, too.
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:54 AM   #8
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I know Markus has stated on several occasions that this would be a monumental pain to add/change because there are thousands of gender pronouns in the text alone that would need to be charged.

Then again, I never thought we'd get Tournaments, so never say never. It will probably happen sooner or later. When, exactly, is anyone's guess.
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I know Markus has stated on several occasions that this would be a monumental pain to add/change because there are thousands of gender pronouns in the text alone that would need to be charged.
Yeah, it would be a lot of tedious work to change all the pronouns that would be variables based on gender, and I appreciate that. But it's something they should probably undertake because not only is there historical precedent, there will be female players again in the future. It's only a matter of time before it has to be changed to mirror active MLB.
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YBut it's something they should probably undertake because not only is there historical precedent, there will be female players again in the future. It's only a matter of time before it has to be changed to mirror active MLB.
I am unaware of any female player in the history of the affiliated professional minor league baseball, nor in the major leagues. The AAGPBL is a different matter, as it did not play what most would consider baseball for most of its seasons. The ball size, pitching manner, and distance between bases and to the pitcher were quite different from standard baseball, contrary to what the 1992 movie A League of Their Own implied. The first three seasons, for example, used underhanded pitching.

A woman player competing in the affiliated minor leagues, or even MLB itself, may happen someday. But it is a highly unlikely event due to the sexually dimorphic nature of human beings. Note that only a tiny percentage of men are able to make it into pro baseball; the percentage of women who could do so would be a tiny percentage of that already tiny percentage.
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I can't wait for pregnancy to be added into the injury engine.
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Good grief.

I have among my kids three daughters (and a wife who maintains I am the kid in this!). They all played many sports (one still does). One even played on my son's baseball team for a couple of years. Short of a sideshow akin to the shortest ballplayer ever or a "man becomes woman" scenario, this is not even close to a plausible statement.

I'll leave it alone from here on out though. Dream on. Just because it's cool to say doesn't make it true.
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I think when it actually happens and a female player makes a team in organized pro ball THEN we'll see it in OOTP.

It's bound to sooner or later. Eri Yoshida played a couple seasons in Indy ball here in the US and a few more in Japan. Sooner or later one will show up in MiLB.
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AAGPBL would be a great addition to the historic options, though. Fictionalize it to be more professional, and continue it onto modern times.
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It's bound to sooner or later. Eri Yoshida played a couple seasons in Indy ball here in the US and a few more in Japan. Sooner or later one will show up in MiLB.
Maybe, but it'd be a long, hard, uphill struggle against biology.

Consider: 29.3% of U.S. males aged 20-29 were 5'11" or taller; just 0.4% of women were 5'11" or taller. The average height of a Major League player is over 6'. From this, it's easy to see that the pool of female candidates is vastly smaller than the pool of male candidates on a purely basic physical parameters measure, let alone factoring in skill and ability. U.S height data here.


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AAGPBL would be a great addition to the historic options, though. Fictionalize it to be more professional, and continue it onto modern times.
I can agree with that.

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I do think it's possible. It's more likely to happen in baseball than any other major sport because it's the only major sport where bodies do not, theoretically, collide. It's a skill game as much as it is a game of muscle and bulk. That having been said, IF it ever happens, I think it will have to be a pitcher, maybe a knuckleball specialist or someone who pitches "backwards", relying on off-speed stuff rather than throwing 93% fastballs. Possibly at second base, or maybe centerfield. I've been a fan of this game long enough to know the ebbs and flows of baseball. Nothing is "en vogue" forever. Today, the trend is big. Even your middle infielders give you 10-15 HRs a season. It wasn't always that way. Ozzie Smith had a HOF career batting .262 averaging fewer than 2 HRs a season. So you never know what tomorrow brings.
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I can't wait for pregnancy to be added into the injury engine.
I actually wrote some storylines for it somewhere

Women's leagues would be cool to be able to have, but it would be a lot of work for something that not many people would use.
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I actually wrote some storylines for it somewhere

Women's leagues would be cool to be able to have, but it would be a lot of work for something that not many people would use.
Really? I've never played historical play, as I personally enjoy modern and fictional, but I would certainly play a WWII woman's league. Even a modern, fictional, woman's league. But I guess you're right.
Although, it could grow the OOTP audience to more ladies.
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I do think it's possible. It's more likely to happen in baseball than any other major sport because it's the only major sport where bodies do not, theoretically, collide. It's a skill game as much as it is a game of muscle and bulk. That having been said, IF it ever happens, I think it will have to be a pitcher, maybe a knuckleball specialist or someone who pitches "backwards", relying on off-speed stuff rather than throwing 93% fastballs. Possibly at second base, or maybe centerfield. I've been a fan of this game long enough to know the ebbs and flows of baseball. Nothing is "en vogue" forever. Today, the trend is big. Even your middle infielders give you 10-15 HRs a season. It wasn't always that way. Ozzie Smith had a HOF career batting .262 averaging fewer than 2 HRs a season. So you never know what tomorrow brings.
I could see a tall one playing 1st as well, since you don't need a powerful arm. I do believe it would be a hitter of great speed, eye, and contact. Like Ichiro.
Also, putting in a 70-80mph knuckler after a Chapman would be incredibly useful.
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The AAGBPL and its players are in the OOTP database. They are just not used (yet).
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