How soon would expansion to 18-20 teams be possible?

[Moneybrawler]

With the addition of the Negro Leagues, does anyone have any estimation of when here would be a sufficient amount of quality players in those leagues and the minors to justify expansion?

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Moneybrawler

With the addition of the Negro Leagues, does anyone have any estimation of when here would be a sufficient amount of quality players in those leagues and the minors to justify expansion?

Probably the same as was the case historically. Major league expansion was driven by the demographic growth in the west, financial troubles for some clubs in the east, and reasonable access to the west coast granted by fast, reliable air travel.

[Moneybrawler]

I mean talent-wise. I could expand to eastern and midwestern cities when there's enough talent and then to the west coast when historically appropriate.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Moneybrawler

I mean talent-wise. I could explain to eastern and midwestern cities when there's enough talent and then to the west coast when historically appropriate.

It wasn't the availability of talent that spurred expansion, that was my point. (Though there were proposals at various earlier times for expansion, all of which fell through for one reason or another.)

[Moneybrawler]

Ok so when in the game do you think there will be sufficient talent between the historical minors and the negro leagues, irrelevant of when other factors permitted expansion?

[Le Grande Orange]

Hopefully, one of the folks more knowledgeable on the player statistics side will weigh in with suggestions. My expertise falls on the league rule and economic side of the sport.

[swampdragon]

Honestly, that depends on the MLE that Markus and company gives to stats earned in the Negro Leagues. The answer could be anywhere from 1923 to 1950. There were plenty of players of major league quality playing in the PCL as well.

[Moneybrawler]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Hopefully, one of the folks more knowledgeable on the player statistics side will weigh in with suggestions. My expertise falls on the league rule and economic side of the sport.

That's cool. Expansion, relocation, and economics of the game are also interests of mine.

[threesportgeek]

Why would anyone want to have that kind of expansion? Eight teams not enough?

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[swampdragon]

Originally Posted by threesportgeek

Why would anyone want to have that kind of expansion? Eight teams not enough?

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There's an argument for it if you intend to integrate the league early. Regardless of the MLE used for the Negro Leagues, some number of real major leaguers will lose their jobs to Negro League and PCL players. The more qualified players there are, the better the argument for expansion in order to keep the full range of major league talent in the majors. It's a matter of individual preference.

[David Watts]

Will expansion be possible? I guess along these same lines, will we be able to use the MLB/Negro Leagues and not use historical minors? If historical minors are turned on, expansion is pretty much out as the game follows the real life league structures.

[Moneybrawler]

Originally Posted by David Watts

Will expansion be possible? I guess along these same lines, will we be able to use the MLB/Negro Leagues and not use historical minors? If historical minors are turned on, expansion is pretty much out as the game follows the real life league structures.

Good question.


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[threesportgeek]

Even through Steam it takes forever to get started because of the file size. The coding for that database would have to be triple in size just going from 6-8 teams to 18-20 teams. Is that even an endeavor that would be worth the effort?

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[Moneybrawler]

Originally Posted by threesportgeek

Even through Steam it takes forever to get started because of the file size. The coding for that database would have to be triple in size just going from 6-8 teams to 18-20 teams. Is that even an endeavor that would be worth the effort?

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I'm talking about going from 16 to 18-20.


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