Force start of playoffs no tiebreakers

[AmazingGracie17]

Does anyone know if we will have the option to not have tiebreaker games at the end of a season and just go directly to playoffs? Pretty please with sugar on top include this option.

[Matt Arnold]

I've added a new flag that will disable tiebreakers for a league. I know I've heard it asked on here a few times, and also a lot of tournaments won't do tiebreakers games after their round-robin opening round.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

I've added a new flag that will disable tiebreakers for a league. I know I've heard it asked on here a few times, and also a lot of tournaments won't do tiebreakers games after their round-robin opening round.

They may not do tie-breaking games but they still nevertheless have tie-breaking rules to determine the seeding and position of finish. What rules does OOTP use by default to sort out seeding and position of finish when clubs finish with the same W-L record?

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

They may not do tie-breaking games but they still nevertheless have tie-breaking rules to determine the seeding and position of finish. What rules does OOTP use by default to sort out seeding and position of finish when clubs finish with the same W-L record?

By default, we go winning pct, then head to head, then intra-division record, then intra-league record, then run differential in head to head games, then run diff in all games. We don't do the MLB "record in their final 81 games" then "record in their final 82 games", etc... rules.

[Orioles1966]

Are we going to be able to also force stop of the regular season? That hasn't been mentioned.

Another thing I would like too see is a complete manual set-up of the playoffs. I'm not sure if that is currently possible.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

By default, we go winning pct, then head to head, then intra-division record, then intra-league record, then run differential in head to head games, then run diff in all games. We don't do the MLB "record in their final 81 games" then "record in their final 82 games", etc... rules.

For a single-division league (or tournament), you'll be jumping straight to step #5 if step #1 and step #2 are tied.

You may need to add more steps for tournaments, since those tend to have a small number of games, and thus a higher chance of ties, even in something like run differential.


Only a relatively small number of leagues use run differential to break seeding/position ties (tournaments are a different matter). Most use some for of winning percentage against some combination of opponents. E.g. in a two-way tie for a division, it'd be record against the 3rd place team in the division, and if that is tied, record against the 4th place team, and so on. Another example is comparing the tied clubs' record against the team in the league with the best record, and if still tied, then the team in the league with the second-best record, and so on.

I have detailed information on the various tie-breaking steps used in the minor leagues.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

For a single-division league (or tournament), you'll be jumping straight to step #5 if step #1 and step #2 are tied.

You may need to add more steps for tournaments, since those tend to have a small number of games, and thus a higher chance of ties, even in something like run differential.


Only a relatively small number of leagues use run differential to break seeding/position ties (tournaments are a different matter). Most use some for of winning percentage against some combination of opponents. E.g. in a two-way tie for a division, it'd be record against the 3rd place team in the division, and if that is tied, record against the 4th place team, and so on. Another example is comparing the tied clubs' record against the team in the league with the best record, and if still tied, then the team in the league with the second-best record, and so on.

I have detailed information on the various tie-breaking steps used in the minor leagues.

Yeah, the middle steps would essentially be useless in a small tournament. Although generally speaking, in most round-robin tournaments, you only play one game against each other team, so that will guarantee a winner between them, so it shouldn't be as much of a problem. You could get some "double round-robin" tournaments where you play 2 games against each opponent, but by that point, you're already up to probably 6 or 8 games each, where the odds of being tied, and tied in head to head, and have beat each other by the same score, and tied in overall run differential drops down further.

Currently if they're tied after all that, we "flip a coin". If we do notice problems, we can think about adding in other tiebreak procedures, either from MLB or any of the MiLB rules.