Weird Scenario?

daves · 02-01-2017, 07:36 PM

1st and 3rd with no outs. Jack Bradley on 3rd. Batter hits into a DP and the player on 3rd does not score? That almost seems impossible to me.

SaoMagnifico · 02-01-2017, 09:40 PM

I remember watching at least two real live MLB plays last season in which a runner failed to advance from second on a single into the outfield, so strange things do happen sometimes in the world of baserunning.

old fat bald guy · 02-02-2017, 08:42 AM

Seems to me that it would be unusual (and bad baserunning) if the infield was at normal depth and the ball was hit up the middle. If it was hit to third, maybe the runner felt a need to hang close to the base to avoid being tagged.

Really depends on the details of the game situation.

anthonywvalentine · 02-02-2017, 11:33 AM

A line drive at one of the infielders that was caught on a short hop may have resulted in him not scoring. If it was hit back to the pitcher that might have held him up too.

thorpegiovanni · 02-02-2017, 11:35 AM

Does happen in real life from time to time, so whether it's a glitch or not, pretty realistic.

daves · 02-02-2017, 05:54 PM

It was a ground ball double play. The chances of a runner not scoring on this play is about 0.01% or less?

actionjackson · 02-02-2017, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaoMagnifico

I remember watching at least two real live MLB plays last season in which a runner failed to advance from second on a single into the outfield, so strange things do happen sometimes in the world of baserunning.

See: Rivera, Ruben.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spx9ZeSYVTU

WahooSam · 02-02-2017, 11:17 PM

According to Retrosheet, the runner on 3rd failed to score on a 1st and 3rd nobody out ground ball double play 4.7% of the time that this situation arose from 2000-2015.

Many of the non-scorers were pretty slow (including three pitchers), but Tony Womack, Eric Young, and Derek Jeter also failed to score in this situation.

In 2005, Jeremy Reed of the Mariners failed to score the winning run in the bottom of the ninth in this situation. He may have had an excuse though: Retrosheet lists the double play as 483. The Angels may have been in a 5 man infield for this situation. Reed later did score the winning run.

daves · 02-05-2017, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahooSam

According to Retrosheet, the runner on 3rd failed to score on a 1st and 3rd nobody out ground ball double play 4.7% of the time that this situation arose from 2000-2015.

Many of the non-scorers were pretty slow (including three pitchers), but Tony Womack, Eric Young, and Derek Jeter also failed to score in this situation.

In 2005, Jeremy Reed of the Mariners failed to score the winning run in the bottom of the ninth in this situation. He may have had an excuse though: Retrosheet lists the double play as 483. The Angels may have been in a 5 man infield for this situation. Reed later did score the winning run.

I see, but my runner on 3rd had above average speed. Jackie Bradley Jr.

02-01-2017, 07:36 PM	#1
daves Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,019	Weird Scenario? 1st and 3rd with no outs. Jack Bradley on 3rd. Batter hits into a DP and the player on 3rd does not score? That almost seems impossible to me. __________________

02-01-2017, 09:40 PM	#2
SaoMagnifico Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 144	I remember watching at least two real live MLB plays last season in which a runner failed to advance from second on a single into the outfield, so strange things do happen sometimes in the world of baserunning. __________________ No bunting!

02-02-2017, 11:35 AM	#5
thorpegiovanni All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 550	Does happen in real life from time to time, so whether it's a glitch or not, pretty realistic. __________________

02-02-2017, 05:54 PM	#6
daves Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,019	It was a ground ball double play. The chances of a runner not scoring on this play is about 0.01% or less? __________________

02-02-2017, 08:42 AM	#3
old fat bald guy Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 220	Seems to me that it would be unusual (and bad baserunning) if the infield was at normal depth and the ball was hit up the middle. If it was hit to third, maybe the runner felt a need to hang close to the base to avoid being tagged. Really depends on the details of the game situation.

02-02-2017, 11:33 AM	#4
anthonywvalentine All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 685	A line drive at one of the infielders that was caught on a short hop may have resulted in him not scoring. If it was hit back to the pitcher that might have held him up too.

02-02-2017, 11:17 PM	#8
WahooSam Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 7	According to Retrosheet, the runner on 3rd failed to score on a 1st and 3rd nobody out ground ball double play 4.7% of the time that this situation arose from 2000-2015. Many of the non-scorers were pretty slow (including three pitchers), but Tony Womack, Eric Young, and Derek Jeter also failed to score in this situation. In 2005, Jeremy Reed of the Mariners failed to score the winning run in the bottom of the ninth in this situation. He may have had an excuse though: Retrosheet lists the double play as 483. The Angels may have been in a 5 man infield for this situation. Reed later did score the winning run.