How many of you run solo, fictional leagues?

Drood · 09-08-2002, 03:01 AM

Just curious since I just reached the decade mark on my solo NCBL.

Does anyone find themselves growing oddly attached to some of their players?

Anonymous Ghost · 09-08-2002, 03:09 AM

Yes and yes.

endgame · 09-08-2002, 04:00 AM

On my ninth year with a fictional league, and yes....unnaturally attached. In fact, just today I reinstated my starting catcher who I had benched for his lack of enthusiasm!

SSG Troyer · 09-08-2002, 07:51 AM

I do and beyond question. I cheer when they do well and feel bad (sometimes very bad) when they retire/get hurt. I make up little stories about their personal lives and how it effects their play.

Malleus Dei · 09-08-2002, 01:15 PM

Yes, and yes.

LivnLegend · 09-08-2002, 01:30 PM

Ditto ^^^

lynchjm24 · 09-08-2002, 02:07 PM

Yes and NO

treedom · 09-08-2002, 02:17 PM

Yes and YES...

I was actually about 13 years into mine, and had grown quite attached to my team. By this time pretty much everybody had come up through the my minors system (all the originals save one were gone). And you grow even more attached when that happens...especially when a 5th round pick grows into on of the league's most dominant closers.

But, I sadly had to start over. I wanted my league to be a little lower on homers, so I had initially changed the HR era settings downward. After many seasons of 60+ HR, I had learned to live with it, thinking it was a glitch in the game. But then I found out that changing the HRs upwards (?!?!) would lower them...hehe...sigh...

So here I go again...

Scott Vibert · 09-08-2002, 03:22 PM

yes and yes. Especially when you combine the league with Wallman's utility and have the entire history of your squad.

jor31 · 09-08-2002, 09:02 PM

Yep, YES i want to trade one to my online league team, but my commish isnt easily bribed

DreamTeams · 09-09-2002, 11:05 AM

I'm currently in September of my Metro Leagues 11th season. I'm playing September out day-by-day (as in real time). The Big League is wrapped up, but there is a 4 game difference in the Major League. Anyway, I do find myself rooting for certain players. My favorite is Frenchy Armstrong who is in the final stages of his careeer with the Atlanta Grays. You can see several more of my favorites at my solo site. When there click on 'Sons of Jon.

fluharty · 09-09-2002, 11:59 AM

I most definately get attached to some of my players, and not always the star players. I had a utility defensive specialist who, at the age of 29, inexplicably had his ratings jump, making him starter material. I liked him becuase he was very fast, always overachieved, and could play a slew of positions wirth A & B range. I liked him well enough, in fact, that I could not allow myself to keep him as a backup, and traded him away so he could play full time. Crazy. The guy I replaced him with was not nearly as good in terms of defensive ability, number of positions played, or ability to hit.

freew · 09-09-2002, 12:28 PM

Yes and Yes..

I had a great young starting pitcher who I called up my late in my first first season. He gave up a lot of runs but he also would strike out a ton of batters. The next season he started out in my rotation. Early in the year he was injured for the whole season. The next season his rating dropped a lot. He spent the next 6 seasons in my minors, never getting above AA. I finally cut him hoping another team would sign him and let him pitch in the majors.

Drood · 09-09-2002, 02:15 PM

Glad it's not just me. Going to have to look at Wallman's utilities. Wish I'd kept the league output for all the seasons now....

So far for me I'm not actually managing a team. Just simming for the most part. I want to get a good 20 year history to the league before I take over a team. Still get attached to players though. I had Stephen Dileo, the early homerun king, and now there's Billy Wommack, who is HOF material, and needs about 100 more HR's to reach it. The HR totals are a little high, around the 50 mark, but that's okay. Still, for a 128 game season I guess it's a little inaccurate, but HEY! It's my league

DreamTeams idea of creating players is one I'm going to shamelessly swipe

Would set up a website dedicated to the league, but not sure if A) anyone would be interested other than me, and B) quite what I'd do other than upload the output at the end of the season.

Sinclair · 09-09-2002, 02:50 PM

Heh, yes and yes... I actually simmed a "fictional" Baseball Mogul 2k3 league from 2002 - 2010 before signing onto OOTP4... And as much as I like playing OOTP4, I miss my old BBM team. So I've decided to move the entire freaking franchise from BBM to my fictional OOTP4 league.

I just DL'ed Pierre's Editor to try to do this. Hope it works out... I managed my BBM team to six (!) straight championships while keeping payroll under control, and through the last decade I've gotten to know my team very well... I miss 'em. :P

atomheart · 09-09-2002, 06:14 PM

Yes.

I'm about 25 years into my most recent fictional league. I love my players, and looking through the record books takes hours. Fun stuff.

Hootowl 9 · 09-10-2002, 12:07 PM

Yup! Mixed with anger, exaltation and frustration! Even named a player in the minors as his son to keep the name alive.

CBL-Commish · 09-10-2002, 12:47 PM

Yes and Yes.

I'm in the 15th calendar year of the Continental League, and the 15th season. It started out on PureStat baseball on my Commodore 64 in 1988. 14 fictional teams with fictional players. Then in 1989 it moved to Earl Weaver Baseball on an old IBM. In 1990 the league expanded to 16 teams. In 1992 I moved it to Earl Weaver II. In 1995 the league again expanded, this time to 20 teams.

I'm still not sure how I ever got those Earl I seasons finished. I only had one other "owner" helping out, and there was no fast sim mode. We had to manually start each and every game in a 162-game, 16 team league.

Somewhere along the way I put together a spreadsheet of every player and season in CBL history.

In 2000 I made the arduous conversion over to OOTP2, which was somewhat simplified by adding the players from my spreadsheet to the Lahman database, then importing all 1000 or so players, one at a time.

The 2001 season was played on OOTP3. The 2002 season is currently underway on OOTP4. There are still about a dozen original players from the '88 season still active. One guy has over 3000 CBL hits, another has 500+ HRs, another has 285 wins. I've "known" some of these guys since I was in high school; I'm 31 now. You better belive I'm attached to them...

Drood · 09-10-2002, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CBL-Commish
I'm 31 now. You better belive I'm attached to them...

That's very cool

Alas my interest in Baseball back then (you're the same age as me) wasn't that great because I lived in England. I've only become interested since I moved to Canada six years ago.

Be cool to have something going back that far though.

statfreak · 09-10-2002, 03:24 PM

I get attached to the original fictional players and lose interest in the league altogether once those first few stars start to age and eventually retire.

Then I start all over again. Play another 10-15 years and have to start over.

09-08-2002, 03:01 AM	#1
Drood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 425	How many of you run solo, fictional leagues? Just curious since I just reached the decade mark on my solo NCBL. Does anyone find themselves growing oddly attached to some of their players?

09-08-2002, 04:00 AM	#3
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	On my ninth year with a fictional league, and yes....unnaturally attached. In fact, just today I reinstated my starting catcher who I had benched for his lack of enthusiasm! __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

09-08-2002, 07:51 AM	#4
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,598	I do and beyond question. I cheer when they do well and feel bad (sometimes very bad) when they retire/get hurt. I make up little stories about their personal lives and how it effects their play. __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

09-08-2002, 02:17 PM	#8
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	Yes and YES... I was actually about 13 years into mine, and had grown quite attached to my team. By this time pretty much everybody had come up through the my minors system (all the originals save one were gone). And you grow even more attached when that happens...especially when a 5th round pick grows into on of the league's most dominant closers. But, I sadly had to start over. I wanted my league to be a little lower on homers, so I had initially changed the HR era settings downward. After many seasons of 60+ HR, I had learned to live with it, thinking it was a glitch in the game. But then I found out that changing the HRs upwards (?!?!) would lower them...hehe...sigh... So here I go again... __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

09-08-2002, 09:02 PM	#10
jor31 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 296	Yep, YES i want to trade one to my online league team, but my commish isnt easily bribed __________________ <img src="http://www.seti-stats.de/setistats/userstats.php?bcolor=128,128,128&tcolor=128,128,12 8&l=2&lng=en&id=3123">

09-08-2002, 03:09 AM	#2
Anonymous Ghost All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 751	Yes and yes.

09-08-2002, 01:30 PM	#6
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Ditto ^^^

09-08-2002, 02:07 PM	#7
lynchjm24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hartford Posts: 978 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Yes and NO

09-08-2002, 03:22 PM	#9
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	yes and yes. Especially when you combine the league with Wallman's utility and have the entire history of your squad.

09-09-2002, 11:05 AM	#11
DreamTeams Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,522	I'm currently in September of my Metro Leagues 11th season. I'm playing September out day-by-day (as in real time). The Big League is wrapped up, but there is a 4 game difference in the Major League. Anyway, I do find myself rooting for certain players. My favorite is Frenchy Armstrong who is in the final stages of his careeer with the Atlanta Grays. You can see several more of my favorites at my solo site. When there click on 'Sons of Jon. __________________

09-09-2002, 11:59 AM	#12
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	I most definately get attached to some of my players, and not always the star players. I had a utility defensive specialist who, at the age of 29, inexplicably had his ratings jump, making him starter material. I liked him becuase he was very fast, always overachieved, and could play a slew of positions wirth A & B range. I liked him well enough, in fact, that I could not allow myself to keep him as a backup, and traded him away so he could play full time. Crazy. The guy I replaced him with was not nearly as good in terms of defensive ability, number of positions played, or ability to hit.

09-09-2002, 12:28 PM	#13
freew Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 41	Yes and Yes.. I had a great young starting pitcher who I called up my late in my first first season. He gave up a lot of runs but he also would strike out a ton of batters. The next season he started out in my rotation. Early in the year he was injured for the whole season. The next season his rating dropped a lot. He spent the next 6 seasons in my minors, never getting above AA. I finally cut him hoping another team would sign him and let him pitch in the majors.

09-09-2002, 02:15 PM	#14
Drood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 425	Glad it's not just me. Going to have to look at Wallman's utilities. Wish I'd kept the league output for all the seasons now.... So far for me I'm not actually managing a team. Just simming for the most part. I want to get a good 20 year history to the league before I take over a team. Still get attached to players though. I had Stephen Dileo, the early homerun king, and now there's Billy Wommack, who is HOF material, and needs about 100 more HR's to reach it. The HR totals are a little high, around the 50 mark, but that's okay. Still, for a 128 game season I guess it's a little inaccurate, but HEY! It's my league DreamTeams idea of creating players is one I'm going to shamelessly swipe Would set up a website dedicated to the league, but not sure if A) anyone would be interested other than me, and B) quite what I'd do other than upload the output at the end of the season.

09-09-2002, 02:50 PM	#15
Sinclair Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 202	Heh, yes and yes... I actually simmed a "fictional" Baseball Mogul 2k3 league from 2002 - 2010 before signing onto OOTP4... And as much as I like playing OOTP4, I miss my old BBM team. So I've decided to move the entire freaking franchise from BBM to my fictional OOTP4 league. I just DL'ed Pierre's Editor to try to do this. Hope it works out... I managed my BBM team to six (!) straight championships while keeping payroll under control, and through the last decade I've gotten to know my team very well... I miss 'em. :P

09-09-2002, 06:14 PM	#16
atomheart Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 454	Yes. I'm about 25 years into my most recent fictional league. I love my players, and looking through the record books takes hours. Fun stuff.

09-10-2002, 12:07 PM	#17
Hootowl 9 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Genesee Depot, Wis. Posts: 209	Yup! Mixed with anger, exaltation and frustration! Even named a player in the minors as his son to keep the name alive.

09-10-2002, 12:47 PM	#18
CBL-Commish All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,999	Yes and Yes. I'm in the 15th calendar year of the Continental League, and the 15th season. It started out on PureStat baseball on my Commodore 64 in 1988. 14 fictional teams with fictional players. Then in 1989 it moved to Earl Weaver Baseball on an old IBM. In 1990 the league expanded to 16 teams. In 1992 I moved it to Earl Weaver II. In 1995 the league again expanded, this time to 20 teams. I'm still not sure how I ever got those Earl I seasons finished. I only had one other "owner" helping out, and there was no fast sim mode. We had to manually start each and every game in a 162-game, 16 team league. Somewhere along the way I put together a spreadsheet of every player and season in CBL history. In 2000 I made the arduous conversion over to OOTP2, which was somewhat simplified by adding the players from my spreadsheet to the Lahman database, then importing all 1000 or so players, one at a time. The 2001 season was played on OOTP3. The 2002 season is currently underway on OOTP4. There are still about a dozen original players from the '88 season still active. One guy has over 3000 CBL hits, another has 500+ HRs, another has 285 wins. I've "known" some of these guys since I was in high school; I'm 31 now. You better belive I'm attached to them... __________________ For the best in O's news: Orioles' Hangout.com Last edited by CBL-Commish; 09-10-2002 at 12:50 PM.

09-10-2002, 03:24 PM	#20
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	I get attached to the original fictional players and lose interest in the league altogether once those first few stars start to age and eventually retire. Then I start all over again. Play another 10-15 years and have to start over. __________________ Roll out the barrel!