Thoughts on "Offer Extensions..."

mmarra82 · 06-09-2016, 07:31 AM

Guys, what's your thoughts on the personnel screen in which you can click on "Offer Extensions to all Expiring Minor League Personnel"?

Generally, if a coach's contract is coming to an end and you go to offer him extension, he may reply I am not interested in working for this club.

However, click on the offer extensions to all, and he is now signed.

Is it a cheat?

mmarra82 · 06-09-2016, 02:37 PM

no thoughts?

ohiodevil · 06-09-2016, 02:47 PM

I have never seen a guy that said he was not interested in resigning get an extension when clicking "Offer Extensions to all Expiring Minor League Personnel". In fact I just went through my minor leagues one coach at a time and the ones who said they did not want to resign, did not when clicking that button.

BigRed75 · 06-09-2016, 09:21 PM

Same here. Maybe you can put it down to him changing his mind, and therefore not a cheat...

jpeters1734 · 06-09-2016, 10:08 PM

it's a cheat when extensions are disabled.

NoOne · 06-10-2016, 12:09 PM

make a coach with your name. role-play as that coach. you can do whatever the f%$# you want.

actually... just the third sentence is enough.

Padreman · 06-10-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarra82

no thoughts?

Correct

mmarra82 · 06-10-2016, 03:15 PM

OK then.

MrBojangles · 06-10-2016, 11:09 PM

The offer extensions to all potential FA's would only apply to players, not coaches, right? How do you get coaches caught up in this net?

Anyone · 06-11-2016, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NoOne

make a coach with your name. role-play as that coach. you can do whatever the f%$# you want.

actually... just the third sentence is enough.

Well, the third sentence isn't everything because while we can, and there's no ethical reason not to do something we want, because at worst we're cheating the AI, while I "cheat" occasionally and I'm sure many others do, anyone who doesn't set a limit to their cheating will get bored really quickly because they'll win way too easily.

I'd agree though that a way to not feel like it's cheating is to make the coach "you" and then give him whatever contract with your team you want.

Generally, if you can do it without being in commissioner mode and without intentionally crashing the program (as in "I lost this game; I'll crash the program so it doesn't save and I can try it again") then it's not a cheat. At most it can be an exploit, and from reading the board not just I but also others tend to come up with "house rules" about what we allow ourselves to do, or disallow, in terms of exploits.

MrBojangles · 06-11-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Anyone

Well, the third sentence isn't everything because while we can, and there's no ethical reason not to do something we want, because at worst we're cheating the AI, while I "cheat" occasionally and I'm sure many others do, anyone who doesn't set a limit to their cheating will get bored really quickly because they'll win way too easily.

I'd agree though that a way to not feel like it's cheating is to make the coach "you" and then give him whatever contract with your team you want.

Generally, if you can do it without being in commissioner mode and without intentionally crashing the program (as in "I lost this game; I'll crash the program so it doesn't save and I can try it again") then it's not a cheat. At most it can be an exploit, and from reading the board not just I but also others tend to come up with "house rules" about what we allow ourselves to do, or disallow, in terms of exploits.

You can intentionally crash the program to avoid a game result?

ohiodevil · 06-11-2016, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBojangles

You can intentionally crash the program to avoid a game result?

CTRL-ALT-DEL and then use Task Manager to close OOTP does allow the game to close without saving.....not that I have ever done that....no...never....

RubeBaker · 06-11-2016, 02:10 PM

It all depends on how well the team did & whether or not the coach's philosophy is in line with mine or what I think is best for the team. It's a case-by-case basis for me with each individual coach.

bwburke94 · 06-12-2016, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ohiodevil

CTRL-ALT-DEL and then use Task Manager to close OOTP does allow the game to close without saving.....not that I have ever done that....no...never....

As I've said a few times before, I prefer Ctrl-Shift-Esc.

MrBojangles · 06-12-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bwburke94

As I've said a few times before, I prefer Ctrl-Shift-Esc.

Why the preference. What does Ctrl-Shift-Esc do differently?

Hammercraft · 06-12-2016, 01:08 PM

Guys want jobs, I need guys to fill positions, and I don't care a whole lot how much they get paid. It's the "don't worry about this for six months" button for me.

bwburke94 · 06-13-2016, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBojangles

Why the preference. What does Ctrl-Shift-Esc do differently?

Straight to Task Manager instead of to the Blue Screen of Not-Death.

06-09-2016, 07:31 AM	#1
mmarra82 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 310	Thoughts on "Offer Extensions..." Guys, what's your thoughts on the personnel screen in which you can click on "Offer Extensions to all Expiring Minor League Personnel"? Generally, if a coach's contract is coming to an end and you go to offer him extension, he may reply I am not interested in working for this club. However, click on the offer extensions to all, and he is now signed. Is it a cheat?

06-09-2016, 09:21 PM	#4
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,423	Same here. Maybe you can put it down to him changing his mind, and therefore not a cheat... __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

06-09-2016, 10:08 PM	#5
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,289	it's a cheat when extensions are disabled. __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

06-09-2016, 02:37 PM	#2
mmarra82 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 310	no thoughts?

06-09-2016, 02:47 PM	#3
ohiodevil OOTP Roster Team Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rocky River, Ohio Posts: 2,442	I have never seen a guy that said he was not interested in resigning get an extension when clicking "Offer Extensions to all Expiring Minor League Personnel". In fact I just went through my minor leagues one coach at a time and the ones who said they did not want to resign, did not when clicking that button.

06-10-2016, 12:09 PM	#6
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	make a coach with your name. role-play as that coach. you can do whatever the f%$# you want. actually... just the third sentence is enough.

06-10-2016, 03:15 PM	#8
mmarra82 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 310	OK then.

06-10-2016, 11:09 PM	#9
MrBojangles All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: low and inside Posts: 568	The offer extensions to all potential FA's would only apply to players, not coaches, right? How do you get coaches caught up in this net?

06-11-2016, 02:10 PM	#13
RubeBaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 641	It all depends on how well the team did & whether or not the coach's philosophy is in line with mine or what I think is best for the team. It's a case-by-case basis for me with each individual coach.

06-12-2016, 01:08 PM	#16
Hammercraft All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 728	Guys want jobs, I need guys to fill positions, and I don't care a whole lot how much they get paid. It's the "don't worry about this for six months" button for me.