7-Day Lineups Bug

ZigZagMan · 05-19-2016, 11:43 AM

There appears to be a bug with the drag and drop functionality on the 7-day lineups page.

Semi-regularly when you drop a player into a spot in the lineup, it will place him in the incorrect position, removing another player that's already been dropped into the lineup.

For example, let's say I have a lineup of:

Player 1
Player 2
Player 3
Player 4
(using numbers to indicate the player I want in each spot in the lineup)

When I go to drop Player 5 into the 5th slot, it will instead replace one of the other players like:

Player 1
Player 5
Player 3
Player 4
(where'd Player 2 go?)

Then sometimes when you go to move a player back to the other spot you want him, then put the original player in the lineup, it will also put him in a different spot creating an annoying loop of trying to fill out a lineup.

So it'll go from:

Player 1
Player 5
Player 3
Player 4

to

Player 1

Player 3
Player 4
Player 5
(OK good, now to plug Player 2 back in)

to

Player 1

Player 2
Player 4
Player 5
(Well that's not where I wanted Player 2 to go. And what happened to Player 3?)

Occasionally it will put the player in the correct spot and simply remove another player from the lineup from another spot.

In other words from:

Player 1
Player 2
Player 3
Player 4
(Now to put in player 5)

to

Player 1
Player 2

Player 4
Player 5
(Where did Player 3 go?)

I hope that makes sense. It most recently happened to me 6 times when setting one lineup and I'd say it happens with 50% of the lineups I try to set.

Video example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHNWlFuwOk

RchW · 05-19-2016, 03:04 PM

Hmm it would be easier to follow if you had screenshots. I'm playing around with this as I type this response.

This is what I just did. Each batter was replaced by a pitcher and the position assignments are intact. All nine "batters" on the RHS are pitchers; also note that D. Murphy who was the scheduled SP for that game is no longer listed.

I've tried to reproduce what you describe but the player always goes where I want him to be. Sometimes I don't notice player X is already in the lineup. In that case a blank slot shows in his former spot.

Question. In your first example, player 1,2,3,4 did they have positions assigned? Dragging and dropping into 7-day lineups does not assign a position unless the dropped player is replacing a player with an assigned position. I tried it both ways. No difference.

Sorry I can't be of more help

ZigZagMan · 05-19-2016, 05:41 PM

I start with a blank lineup then drag all the players in before setting the positions.

I'm doing a replay with real-life lineups and transactions so I know I'm not inserting players that are already in the lineups as I'm referencing the lineups that were actually used by the teams. It also happens when I only have a couple players in the lineup.

I took a video with my phone. The error happened 4 times during the video so it should provide a good example. I'll post when I can upload.

Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHNWlFuwOk

RchW · 05-19-2016, 07:16 PM

Nice video. I see what you mean. It's strange and it must be related to the league type and structure. It doesn't happen in my league.

I'm curious. Why don't you enter the players into the main lineup page, then auto fill the 7-day lineups then edit the 7-day lineup as needed? It would be a heck of a lot easier to drag and drop on that page, the positions would be filled in and day to day changes would involve only dragging a few players on the 7-day after auto-filling from the main page. I'm not dismissing the problem, just thinking that there is an easier way.

See the screenshot.

ZigZagMan · 05-19-2016, 10:51 PM

I'm running a real-life replay sim so accuracy is of the utmost importance.

When entering lineups for 30 teams on most days, it's easiest to work with a clean slate and just run down the actual lineup player by player. That way I don't accidentally put someone in the wrong spot or wrong position to start the game.

It's also a pain to adjust the main lineup page for each team every time there's a transaction since I'm manually controlling all 30 teams. Also, 7-day lineups are the only way I can bring a lineup into a game without having to change to User control before the game, starting the game, then changing to CPU control to allow the CPU to manage.(I manage one team through games, the other games I'll watch the last 3 innings).

RchW · 05-19-2016, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZigZagMan

I'm running a real-life replay sim so accuracy is of the utmost importance.

When entering lineups for 30 teams on most days, it's easiest to work with a clean slate and just run down the actual lineup player by player.

That way I don't accidentally put someone in the wrong spot or wrong position to start the game.

But if you put them at the right spot on the lineups page all you have to do is make the changes. Gotta be easier than what your doing..

No problem though, it's entirely your call.

ZigZagMan · 05-19-2016, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RchW

But if you put them at the right spot on the lineups page all you have to do is make the changes. Gotta be easier than what your doing..

No problem though, it's entirely your call.

I've done it both ways. It's more efficient for me to start with a blank slate.

ZigZagMan · 05-27-2016, 10:58 AM

Update: I've started to use the 'Paste LU v. ?HP' option to fill the lineups first, but there are still problems when I try to make minor changes.

If I want to make any small adjustments it will semi-frequently change one of the other lineups for the other 6-days by randomly placing the player I'm moving in the other lineup and deleting another player.

Have any of the developers had a chance to look into this? As someone who relies heavily on 7-day lineups it's making me slightly crazy.

byzeil · 05-30-2016, 10:27 AM

A total shot in the dark but...

I had similar issues at one point when creating lineups on the lineups/depth chart page and the problems went away when I unchecked the "Auto-sync Lineups & Dept Charts' tick box. I believe the issue I was having has been fixed.

I wouldn't expect that to affect the 7-day lineups page but you never know and it might be worth making sure that is unchecked to see if it changes the behavior you are seeing.

ZigZagMan · 06-01-2016, 01:42 PM

Unfortunately that didn't seem to fix the issue.

05-19-2016, 11:43 AM	#1
ZigZagMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 127	7-Day Lineups Bug There appears to be a bug with the drag and drop functionality on the 7-day lineups page. Semi-regularly when you drop a player into a spot in the lineup, it will place him in the incorrect position, removing another player that's already been dropped into the lineup. For example, let's say I have a lineup of: Player 1 Player 2 Player 3 Player 4 (using numbers to indicate the player I want in each spot in the lineup) When I go to drop Player 5 into the 5th slot, it will instead replace one of the other players like: Player 1 Player 5 Player 3 Player 4 (where'd Player 2 go?) Then sometimes when you go to move a player back to the other spot you want him, then put the original player in the lineup, it will also put him in a different spot creating an annoying loop of trying to fill out a lineup. So it'll go from: Player 1 Player 5 Player 3 Player 4 to Player 1 Player 3 Player 4 Player 5 (OK good, now to plug Player 2 back in) to Player 1 Player 2 Player 4 Player 5 (Well that's not where I wanted Player 2 to go. And what happened to Player 3?) Occasionally it will put the player in the correct spot and simply remove another player from the lineup from another spot. In other words from: Player 1 Player 2 Player 3 Player 4 (Now to put in player 5) to Player 1 Player 2 Player 4 Player 5 (Where did Player 3 go?) I hope that makes sense. It most recently happened to me 6 times when setting one lineup and I'd say it happens with 50% of the lineups I try to set. Video example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHNWlFuwOk Last edited by ZigZagMan; 05-19-2016 at 05:54 PM.

05-19-2016, 03:04 PM	#2
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Hmm it would be easier to follow if you had screenshots. I'm playing around with this as I type this response. This is what I just did. Each batter was replaced by a pitcher and the position assignments are intact. All nine "batters" on the RHS are pitchers; also note that D. Murphy who was the scheduled SP for that game is no longer listed. I've tried to reproduce what you describe but the player always goes where I want him to be. Sometimes I don't notice player X is already in the lineup. In that case a blank slot shows in his former spot. Question. In your first example, player 1,2,3,4 did they have positions assigned? Dragging and dropping into 7-day lineups does not assign a position unless the dropped player is replacing a player with an assigned position. I tried it both ways. No difference. Sorry I can't be of more help Attached Images __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-19-2016, 05:41 PM	#3
ZigZagMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 127	I start with a blank lineup then drag all the players in before setting the positions. I'm doing a replay with real-life lineups and transactions so I know I'm not inserting players that are already in the lineups as I'm referencing the lineups that were actually used by the teams. It also happens when I only have a couple players in the lineup. I took a video with my phone. The error happened 4 times during the video so it should provide a good example. I'll post when I can upload. Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHNWlFuwOk Last edited by ZigZagMan; 05-19-2016 at 05:54 PM.

05-19-2016, 07:16 PM	#4
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Nice video. I see what you mean. It's strange and it must be related to the league type and structure. It doesn't happen in my league. I'm curious. Why don't you enter the players into the main lineup page, then auto fill the 7-day lineups then edit the 7-day lineup as needed? It would be a heck of a lot easier to drag and drop on that page, the positions would be filled in and day to day changes would involve only dragging a few players on the 7-day after auto-filling from the main page. I'm not dismissing the problem, just thinking that there is an easier way. See the screenshot. Attached Images __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

05-19-2016, 10:51 PM	#5
ZigZagMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 127	I'm running a real-life replay sim so accuracy is of the utmost importance. When entering lineups for 30 teams on most days, it's easiest to work with a clean slate and just run down the actual lineup player by player. That way I don't accidentally put someone in the wrong spot or wrong position to start the game. It's also a pain to adjust the main lineup page for each team every time there's a transaction since I'm manually controlling all 30 teams. Also, 7-day lineups are the only way I can bring a lineup into a game without having to change to User control before the game, starting the game, then changing to CPU control to allow the CPU to manage.(I manage one team through games, the other games I'll watch the last 3 innings). Last edited by ZigZagMan; 05-19-2016 at 10:59 PM.

05-27-2016, 10:58 AM	#8
ZigZagMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 127	Update: I've started to use the 'Paste LU v. ?HP' option to fill the lineups first, but there are still problems when I try to make minor changes. If I want to make any small adjustments it will semi-frequently change one of the other lineups for the other 6-days by randomly placing the player I'm moving in the other lineup and deleting another player. Have any of the developers had a chance to look into this? As someone who relies heavily on 7-day lineups it's making me slightly crazy.

05-30-2016, 10:27 AM	#9
byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,007	A total shot in the dark but... I had similar issues at one point when creating lineups on the lineups/depth chart page and the problems went away when I unchecked the "Auto-sync Lineups & Dept Charts' tick box. I believe the issue I was having has been fixed. I wouldn't expect that to affect the 7-day lineups page but you never know and it might be worth making sure that is unchecked to see if it changes the behavior you are seeing.

06-01-2016, 01:42 PM	#10
ZigZagMan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 127	Unfortunately that didn't seem to fix the issue. Last edited by ZigZagMan; 06-01-2016 at 02:14 PM.