Question about Spring Training Rosters

orange6 · 04-14-2016, 07:22 AM

When you pull guys up on a Spring Training Roster does it count as an option year? Also, I have some guys that started out at AAA that were never on my 24-man roster to begin with, but after the spring they refuse to go back to their original team. Am I setting this up incorrectly?

If this is case I will just eliminate spring training.

Thanks in advance.

Doc_Brown · 04-14-2016, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by orange6

When you pull guys up on a Spring Training Roster does it count as an option year? Also, I have some guys that started out at AAA that were never on my 24-man roster to begin with, but after the spring they refuse to go back to their original team. Am I setting this up incorrectly?

If this is case I will just eliminate spring training.

Thanks in advance.

Were the guys not on your primary roster on the secondary roster?

orange6 · 04-14-2016, 07:37 AM

The guys were on the 40-man roster, but NOT on the 24-man roster.

So when spring is over, those guys (who were never on the 24-man roster) refuse to go back down to AAA or can not be sent down due to being out of options.

TuckerDuckson · 04-14-2016, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by orange6

The guys were on the 40-man roster, but NOT on the 24-man roster.

So when spring is over, those guys (who were never on the 24-man roster) refuse to go back down to AAA or can not be sent down due to being out of options.

Yea, then you need to waive and DFA, this happens in real life too, they are not technically rejecting the assignment, they just can't go down with out being DFA'd and I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as an option year

orange6 · 04-14-2016, 08:13 AM

Thank you for the responses. Then I would be better off with no spring training at all.

I only have 1 level of minor leagues, so I am not thrilled about having to DFA 13 guys (most of who I am high on) depleting my only farm team.

BIG17EASY · 04-14-2016, 08:40 AM

There is no secondary 24-man roster in spring training. The 40-man roster is the active roster, and then when spring training ends, the 24-man roster is activated and the guys you don't want on the 24-man must either use an option to be sent down or be DFA'd.

I always play this way, so it's been a long long time since I paid attention to the roster options in the game settings, but there may be a setting to achieve what you're looking for.

orange6 · 04-14-2016, 08:46 AM

Again, thank you for response.

For someone who knows a lot about the game, the DFA has beaten me.

I am not changing settings....I'll just roll with it the way it supposed to be.

So, for a player out of options, I have to DFA them, hope they clear waivers, and then I can send them back to down to AAA?

BIG17EASY · 04-14-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by orange6

Again, thank you for response.

For someone who knows a lot about the game, the DFA has beaten me.

I am not changing settings....I'll just roll with it the way it supposed to be.

So, for a player out of options, I have to DFA them, hope they clear waivers, and then I can send them back to down to AAA?

Yes. It can make roster decisions at the end of spring training tough. For me, it's one of the fun things about the game, but I understand how it can be tedious for others.

byzeil · 04-14-2016, 01:01 PM

It also means that you may be more selective on who and when you add players to your 40-man roster. Don't add them before you have to.

It is a major league rule to keep teams from being able to stockpile players who could otherwise potentially play at the major league level.

orange6 · 04-14-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by byzeil

It also means that you may be more selective on who and when you add players to your 40-man roster. Don't add them before you have to.

It is a major league rule to keep teams from being able to stockpile players who could otherwise potentially play at the major league level.

Well that is essentially what I have done in the past (stockpiling) but I have always played with a reserve roster, so the DFA never really came into play following an inaugural draft.

I really do understand the purpose of the rule, but starting out of the gate with a brand new league, the contract years and minor league options are just "assigned." Even drafting very young players, I seemed to be hit with just an outrageous number of players that are out of options.

But since I have posted this morning, I am really looking forward to the challenge of figuring it out and hoping that most of my guys clear waivers so I can send them back to AAA Hickory.

cavebutter · 04-14-2016, 01:38 PM

All of the above is true for players on the 40-Man.

However, your ST roster goes up to 60, and you can add guys to the 60-man who are not on your 40. It does not burn an option year and you can send them down with no effect. It's the closest OOTP comes to true non-roster invitees.

NoOne · 04-14-2016, 11:17 PM

there must have been cause. if not, put it into the bug forum.

i've never had to DFA a player when removing from ST roster, except when the rule applies. ST definitely doesn't count toward anything relevant - ml service, option years etc etc.

and, it's better to start out a bit staggered rather than all players having all years of MiL eligibility and three options from the get go... it would be more of a clusterf*ck than what you don't like right right. you're going to lose a lot of players each year from a minor league system.. can't avoid it.

04-14-2016, 07:22 AM	#1
orange6 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 142	Question about Spring Training Rosters When you pull guys up on a Spring Training Roster does it count as an option year? Also, I have some guys that started out at AAA that were never on my 24-man roster to begin with, but after the spring they refuse to go back to their original team. Am I setting this up incorrectly? If this is case I will just eliminate spring training. Thanks in advance.

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04-14-2016, 11:17 PM	#12
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,259 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	there must have been cause. if not, put it into the bug forum. i've never had to DFA a player when removing from ST roster, except when the rule applies. ST definitely doesn't count toward anything relevant - ml service, option years etc etc. and, it's better to start out a bit staggered rather than all players having all years of MiL eligibility and three options from the get go... it would be more of a clusterfck than what you don't like right right. you're going to lose a lot of players each year from a minor league system.. can't avoid it. Last edited by NoOne; 04-14-2016 at 11:24 PM.*

04-14-2016, 07:37 AM	#3
orange6 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 142	The guys were on the 40-man roster, but NOT on the 24-man roster. So when spring is over, those guys (who were never on the 24-man roster) refuse to go back down to AAA or can not be sent down due to being out of options.

04-14-2016, 08:13 AM	#5
orange6 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 142	Thank you for the responses. Then I would be better off with no spring training at all. I only have 1 level of minor leagues, so I am not thrilled about having to DFA 13 guys (most of who I am high on) depleting my only farm team.

04-14-2016, 08:40 AM	#6
BIG17EASY Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,291	There is no secondary 24-man roster in spring training. The 40-man roster is the active roster, and then when spring training ends, the 24-man roster is activated and the guys you don't want on the 24-man must either use an option to be sent down or be DFA'd. I always play this way, so it's been a long long time since I paid attention to the roster options in the game settings, but there may be a setting to achieve what you're looking for.

04-14-2016, 08:46 AM	#7
orange6 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 142	Again, thank you for response. For someone who knows a lot about the game, the DFA has beaten me. I am not changing settings....I'll just roll with it the way it supposed to be. So, for a player out of options, I have to DFA them, hope they clear waivers, and then I can send them back to down to AAA?

04-14-2016, 01:01 PM	#9
byzeil Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ, US Posts: 2,006	It also means that you may be more selective on who and when you add players to your 40-man roster. Don't add them before you have to. It is a major league rule to keep teams from being able to stockpile players who could otherwise potentially play at the major league level.