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Old 04-16-2016, 05:16 PM   #1
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Not sure of accuracy?

Syndergaard has an 8 ERA after 4 starts and I just had a 4 error game.

Any ideas?
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Old 04-16-2016, 05:26 PM   #2
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Syndergaard has an 8 ERA after 4 starts and I just had a 4 error game.

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Small sample size.
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Old 04-16-2016, 05:33 PM   #3
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Yeah, I definitely agree with the small sample size; even the best pitchers will go through stretches where they struggle. It is obviously more noticeable because it happened for Syndergaard at the start of the season. I would not worry about it and I think he should be fine by the end.
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Old 04-16-2016, 05:45 PM   #4
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DeGrom has given up 2 hits to a pitcher. Hmmm...
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:14 PM   #5
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Only options are:

1)option DeGrom to the minors
2)Release him
3) Try and rip the AI off by trading DeGrom



What NYY #23 said, it's a very, very SSS.
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:14 PM   #6
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DeGrom has given up 2 hits to a pitcher. Hmmm...
You will never be happy if you hold each game to 'expected norm'

3 quick things:

1. Small sample size

2. Players are their own entities...the game does not hold them to your expectation (some historical settings will assist if you want)...therefore Noah Syndegaard may end up sucking for the rest of his career...not likely bit it could happen (Tim Lincecum? Ricky Romero? the list goes on)

3. Stuff happens.

My advice is roll with the game....you won't be disappointed....if you want things to be as they 'should be' flip on the TV and watch MLB...I don't mean to offend...I was there once too
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:23 PM   #7
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Rolling along. DeGrom settled down and shut them out the rest of the game.

You guys are right. I guess it wouldn't be fun if he struck out 10 every game lol
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:41 PM   #8
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Syndergaard in real life in 2015:

Four starts from June 2-20: 15 ER in 20 IP = 6.75 ERA
Five starts from Aug 8-30: 17 ER in 27.2 IP = 5.53 ERA

So, yes, small sample sizes can be deceiving.
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:49 PM   #9
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Plus the expectations formed by "names". It's why I play fictional.
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Old 04-16-2016, 07:29 PM   #10
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Plus the expectations formed by "names". It's why I play fictional.

Haven't tried that yet. Is it fun?
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Old 04-16-2016, 07:37 PM   #11
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So RichW, do you sim the games or play them as manager on fictional style?
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Old 04-16-2016, 07:39 PM   #12
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So RichW, do you sim the games or play them as manager on fictional style?
I'm not RchW, but I play fictional and I play out as GM. So I'll watch the games but the guy I hired to be manager does all that stuff.
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Old 04-16-2016, 08:07 PM   #13
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That's called a bad game. It happens.
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Old 04-16-2016, 08:09 PM   #14
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Have no expectations and you won't be disappointed.

Having said that, there is no harm in looking/tweaking a players stats if you think they are wrong. An example for me was Adam Jones. I had to tweak the last 3 or 4 versions because according to OOTP, he is injury prone and a horrible CFer. I think he has 3 or 4 gold gloves and plays 150+ almost every year. I wouldn't call him an iron man, but he isn't injury prone (yet). I sim'd ahead a few years and didn't pay much attention this year, but he sat the bench after sucking pretty bad in 2016.

I don't mind the performance variance, it's realistic (most of the time).
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Haven't tried that yet. Is it fun?
Awesome it is. You can create a history filled with legendary players, flash in the pan flameouts, studs cut down through injury and late bloomers who come out of nowhere. Just like real baseball

Garcia below is one of the best players ever. Andrews had an early CEI, that hurt 'cause he was good. In his last two seasons (2052-53) he pitched well in a 7th game WS loss but came back the next year to win the WS clincher with 15K.
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So RichW, do you sim the games or play them as manager on fictional style?
Both. I sim most regular season games but play some games when the mood strikes. I play out every playoff game.
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Old 04-17-2016, 10:23 PM   #17
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Syndergaard has an 8 ERA after 4 starts and I just had a 4 error game.

Any ideas?
First off, you can't really base anything on four starts. As good as Noah may appear to be, the bottom line is that even if he pitches 15 seasons and has a HOF career, you will be able to find stretches of four or five starts where he was miserable. It happens.

Secondly, players can and will flame out in OOTP just like they do in real life. Believe it or not, the odds are still much better that Noah won't win 100 games than they are that he will be a stud for seasons to come. That's how baseball is sometimes.

Third, back in the early days of OOTP when we had to get rosters from elsewhere to load in and what not, I was so convinced on Rick Ankiel as future stud that I took him with my first pick in the draft (I always would draft from scratch). I was not happy when this great left-handed starting prodigy became a lemon. Well, it seems OOTP (or whoever made the roster at the time!) had it right - his ratings were awesome - and he was out of baseball within a few years of the game starting. It happens. Remember, you are still playing in an alternate universe - deGrom can tear his labrum tomorrow - just hope it is in OOTP and not in real life.

Lastly, like someone else said, this is why I play fictional nowadays - I just couldn't stand watching as the guys I watched on TV hitting 40 home runs a season would flame out in OOTP - it isn't the game engine's fault. It's just how the cookies crumbled in fiction vs. real life. In fictional games, if five-star prospect Joe Schmo ends up with a .230 career batting average, it is just much easier to chalk it up to a failed prospect than it is when Bryce Harper ends up with only 150 career home runs and a career arc that goes in the gutter at age 25.
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