Has anyone ever done this yet in any version of OOTP?

DJP53916 · 03-23-2016, 12:53 AM

Instead of taking control of a team, or building a brand new team/league, with the intention of creating (hopefully) a long sustaining dynasty of dominance and excellence, has anyone took control of a team with the sole purpose of trying to ruin it for as long as possible, as quickly as possible, and seeing just how much an owner will put up with before firing you?

I know we're all creators at some level, but it seems to me another fun way to play this game is to create havoc, just because you can.

I haven't yet, but the idea of doing that to a team just intrigues the hell out of me for some reason.

Reggie · 03-23-2016, 02:46 AM

I think I have.. just not on purpose.

Kronos · 03-23-2016, 03:12 AM

You mean Loria mode?

rjl518 · 03-23-2016, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronos

You mean Loria mode?

Hey...as a MIA Marlins fan also...I have to say that what you said was....well....yeah....really really true.

Silent_Thunder · 03-23-2016, 11:12 AM

I know a guy did it with Man City in FM so hard that after he left (granted he would rehire himself so he could get a full season), Man city suffered back to back relegations.

Doc_Brown · 03-23-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronos

You mean Loria mode?

Markus needs to add that option.

24Rocks · 03-23-2016, 11:29 AM

This seems like something I should do what with the the team I just left in my fictional league I should spend the year runining them then retire lol cause they haven't missed the play offs in almost 60 years lol

Cod · 03-23-2016, 12:06 PM

Has anyone ever actually been fired by an MLB owner? I didn't meet any of my owner's expectations over 8 seasons and was never let go. Only made the playoffs 1 of the seasons and the farm system remained mediocre.

Reggie · 03-23-2016, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cod

Has anyone ever actually been fired by an MLB owner? I didn't meet any of my owner's expectations over 8 seasons and was never let go. Only made the playoffs 1 of the seasons and the farm system remained mediocre.

I have in previous versions. Started a massive and sudden rebuild and was fired the same year.

rhinosaurus · 03-23-2016, 12:24 PM

My team in the fictional league I started was predicted to be the best team in baseball and we ended up like 5th worst.... I wasn't trying to do that though....

prisonerno6 · 03-23-2016, 12:57 PM

I will be starting a 1972 Historical League with Historical Minors and will be taking over the Houston Astros (in Commissioner Mode so I will not get fired). I figured after the following trades,

Nov. 29, 1971: Astros deal 2B Joe Morgan to Cincinnati for 1B Lee May and 2B Tommy Helms. Also in that trade SP Jack Billingham, IF Denis Menke, OF Ed Armbrister and CF Cesar Geronimo to Cincinnati for SS Jimmy Stewart
May was one of the game's best sluggers and hit 57 home runs in two seasons with the Astros before the team dealt him for Enos Cabell in 1974. Helms had a solid career with the Astros, but Joe Morgan went on to become a Hall of Famer and one of the best second basemen of all-time.
I say there might have never been a "Big Red Machine" had the Astros not been in a rush to trade away Morgan. But that is just me
.
Dec. 2, 1971: Astros trade John Mayberry to Kansas City for Jim York and Lance Clemons.
After trading Joe Morgan for slugging first baseman Lee May, the 22-year-old Mayberry became expendable, so he was shipped out, too. Mayberry went on to play 11 more seasons and made two All-Star teams. Clemons never pitched for the Astros and York spent four seasons in the Houston bullpen.

why not trade all the players and bring up the Minor Leaguers as the Astros did in 2012. Just for fun I might keep Cesar Cedeno to see how long it takes before he demands a trade.

BusterKing · 03-23-2016, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJP53916

Instead of taking control of a team, or building a brand new team/league, with the intention of creating (hopefully) a long sustaining dynasty of dominance and excellence, has anyone took control of a team with the sole purpose of trying to ruin it for as long as possible, as quickly as possible, and seeing just how much an owner will put up with before firing you?

I know we're all creators at some level, but it seems to me another fun way to play this game is to create havoc, just because you can.

I haven't yet, but the idea of doing that to a team just intrigues the hell out of me for some reason.

Like replicating the real Toronto Maple Leafs?

HerbertMcHoover · 03-23-2016, 01:23 PM

I have done it to the Red Sox on multiple occasions. I actually tried to see if I could do worse with the 2003 Tigers. Came about 15 wins off. Going to keep trying.

It might be possible to lose 125+ with the Rockies if you have a horrid rotation.

cheo25 · 03-23-2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by prisonerno6

I will be starting a 1972 Historical League with Historical Minors and will be taking over the Houston Astros (in Commissioner Mode so I will not get fired). I figured after the following trades,

Nov. 29, 1971: Astros deal 2B Joe Morgan to Cincinnati for 1B Lee May and 2B Tommy Helms. Also in that trade SP Jack Billingham, IF Denis Menke, OF Ed Armbrister and CF Cesar Geronimo to Cincinnati for SS Jimmy Stewart
May was one of the game's best sluggers and hit 57 home runs in two seasons with the Astros before the team dealt him for Enos Cabell in 1974. Helms had a solid career with the Astros, but Joe Morgan went on to become a Hall of Famer and one of the best second basemen of all-time.
I say there might have never been a "Big Red Machine" had the Astros not been in a rush to trade away Morgan. But that is just me
.
Dec. 2, 1971: Astros trade John Mayberry to Kansas City for Jim York and Lance Clemons.
After trading Joe Morgan for slugging first baseman Lee May, the 22-year-old Mayberry became expendable, so he was shipped out, too. Mayberry went on to play 11 more seasons and made two All-Star teams. Clemons never pitched for the Astros and York spent four seasons in the Houston bullpen.

why not trade all the players and bring up the Minor Leaguers as the Astros did in 2012. Just for fun I might keep Cesar Cedeno to see how long it takes before he demands a trade.

If you do that, I hope you post regular updates because I'd be curious to see how that works out. It would certainly be an upgrade to the real-life, wheels-spinning path they took in the late '60s/early '70s when there seemed to be a shift in philosophy every year.

Germaniac · 03-23-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc_Brown

Markus needs to add that option.

You mean that in addition to Commissioner's Mode he should add "Loria Mod" ?

Signing (or trading for) big time players - and then trading them away, still in off-season - leaving the fans in a state of shock ?

Yes, the Loria Mod could be a lot of fun

Neasag · 03-23-2016, 04:29 PM

Wouldn't that be trivially easy? Just release or demote all of your ML level players, and replace them with your rookie league team (s).

Bam.

BaseballBeast · 03-23-2016, 04:35 PM

Did this on MLB Manager 2015 with the Arizona Diamondbacks as part of a rebuild. Demoted everybody on the active roster down and then promoted everybody else and played everyone out of position. I believe at one point we were 5-60.

glenmere14 · 03-23-2016, 04:50 PM

In a converted OOTP 16 league to the new version, while I was not trying to be fired, I was not really doing much as my favorite players had just retired - wound up quitting after two of my last three years I had a score of "1".

Lots of patience from the owner, actually too much, although he kept renewing my one year contract at a lower salary.

Silent_Thunder · 03-23-2016, 04:54 PM

Here's the guy I mentioned earlier, but with FM, and his complete and utter destruction is what anyone attempting this should strive too.

At least watch untill he shows his foolproof tactic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a565veAkvc

glenmere14 · 03-23-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

Like replicating the real Toronto Maple Leafs?

Lots to like going forward with the young guys, especially Nylander. Really hope TJ Brennan gets a chance to stay at the NHL level.

03-23-2016, 12:53 AM	#1
DJP53916 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 175	Has anyone ever done this yet in any version of OOTP? Instead of taking control of a team, or building a brand new team/league, with the intention of creating (hopefully) a long sustaining dynasty of dominance and excellence, has anyone took control of a team with the sole purpose of trying to ruin it for as long as possible, as quickly as possible, and seeing just how much an owner will put up with before firing you? I know we're all creators at some level, but it seems to me another fun way to play this game is to create havoc, just because you can. I haven't yet, but the idea of doing that to a team just intrigues the hell out of me for some reason.

03-23-2016, 11:29 AM	#7
24Rocks All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scarborough, Ontario, Canada Posts: 808	This seems like something I should do what with the the team I just left in my fictional league I should spend the year runining them then retire lol cause they haven't missed the play offs in almost 60 years lol __________________ Jonny Former OOTP Online leagues: LOHO: Detroit Tigers ISL: San Diego Padres VSL: Pittsburgh Pirates NPBL: Ohio Raptors/Nova Scotia Fishermen AFBL:Ontario Blue Pirates Check you my YOUTUBE or TWITCH

03-23-2016, 12:57 PM	#11
prisonerno6 Major Leagues Join Date: May 2014 Location: SW Florida Posts: 478	I will be starting a 1972 Historical League with Historical Minors and will be taking over the Houston Astros (in Commissioner Mode so I will not get fired). I figured after the following trades, Nov. 29, 1971: Astros deal 2B Joe Morgan to Cincinnati for 1B Lee May and 2B Tommy Helms. Also in that trade SP Jack Billingham, IF Denis Menke, OF Ed Armbrister and CF Cesar Geronimo to Cincinnati for SS Jimmy Stewart May was one of the game's best sluggers and hit 57 home runs in two seasons with the Astros before the team dealt him for Enos Cabell in 1974. Helms had a solid career with the Astros, but Joe Morgan went on to become a Hall of Famer and one of the best second basemen of all-time. I say there might have never been a "Big Red Machine" had the Astros not been in a rush to trade away Morgan. But that is just me . Dec. 2, 1971: Astros trade John Mayberry to Kansas City for Jim York and Lance Clemons. After trading Joe Morgan for slugging first baseman Lee May, the 22-year-old Mayberry became expendable, so he was shipped out, too. Mayberry went on to play 11 more seasons and made two All-Star teams. Clemons never pitched for the Astros and York spent four seasons in the Houston bullpen. why not trade all the players and bring up the Minor Leaguers as the Astros did in 2012. Just for fun I might keep Cesar Cedeno to see how long it takes before he demands a trade.

03-23-2016, 02:46 AM	#2
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	I think I have.. just not on purpose.

03-23-2016, 03:12 AM	#3
Kronos Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Northern Ky. Posts: 318	You mean Loria mode?

03-23-2016, 11:12 AM	#5
Silent_Thunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 235	I know a guy did it with Man City in FM so hard that after he left (granted he would rehire himself so he could get a full season), Man city suffered back to back relegations.

03-23-2016, 12:06 PM	#8
Cod All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,177	Has anyone ever actually been fired by an MLB owner? I didn't meet any of my owner's expectations over 8 seasons and was never let go. Only made the playoffs 1 of the seasons and the farm system remained mediocre.

03-23-2016, 12:24 PM	#10
rhinosaurus Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 70	My team in the fictional league I started was predicted to be the best team in baseball and we ended up like 5th worst.... I wasn't trying to do that though....

03-23-2016, 01:23 PM	#13
HerbertMcHoover Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 233	I have done it to the Red Sox on multiple occasions. I actually tried to see if I could do worse with the 2003 Tigers. Came about 15 wins off. Going to keep trying. It might be possible to lose 125+ with the Rockies if you have a horrid rotation.

03-23-2016, 04:29 PM	#16
Neasag Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 136	Wouldn't that be trivially easy? Just release or demote all of your ML level players, and replace them with your rookie league team (s). Bam.

03-23-2016, 04:35 PM	#17
BaseballBeast Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 54	Did this on MLB Manager 2015 with the Arizona Diamondbacks as part of a rebuild. Demoted everybody on the active roster down and then promoted everybody else and played everyone out of position. I believe at one point we were 5-60.

03-23-2016, 04:50 PM	#18
glenmere14 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 259	In a converted OOTP 16 league to the new version, while I was not trying to be fired, I was not really doing much as my favorite players had just retired - wound up quitting after two of my last three years I had a score of "1". Lots of patience from the owner, actually too much, although he kept renewing my one year contract at a lower salary.

03-23-2016, 04:54 PM	#19
Silent_Thunder Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 235	Here's the guy I mentioned earlier, but with FM, and his complete and utter destruction is what anyone attempting this should strive too. At least watch untill he shows his foolproof tactic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a565veAkvc