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Old 11-10-2015, 10:37 AM   #1
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Two way players

Does the games AI accurately simulate possible two way players?

Say you have a Babe Ruth type who can pitch and hit.. will the game know to hit Babe on the days he doesn't pitch?
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Old 11-10-2015, 01:41 PM   #2
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I think somebody had a thread on how to optimally do this kind of thing a while back.

I notice this seems to happen more in 19th Century leagues. One guy in my fictional league started out as a pitcher, then became an all-star 3B. He also plays LF on occasion. I used him at every position in one game.
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Old 11-11-2015, 02:31 PM   #3
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i don't know if i've just had a crazy string of luck, but i've been seeing lots of these types of players in my drafts lately. i don't really look too hard for them, so it might mean nothng that i am noticing. (3-5/yr that have viable chance of being mlb pitchers or batters. also, there must be more because i do not look these players, i find them by accident)

i see the players with dual talents in both my minor league's pitching and batting screens.

in the pitching screen, they are not listed in the lower right box with relievers and their roles options. i didn't try dragging them down, but i did change one's position from 2b to reliever once and he showed up blow at that point.

i don't know if you can set them up as both a batter and pitcher for games. i just try to pick the better suited role and don't look at it after that point. so, i can't help you with how the game handles them. you'd likely have to micromanage it or sync up days off at a position with his regular turn in the rotation.

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Old 11-11-2015, 03:34 PM   #4
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I was playing John McMullen as a starting pitcher and a left fielder on alternate days in my current league, but I found I had to micromanage it. Oddly, it wasn't getting him in the lineup every day that was a problem, the problem seemed to be that the game wanted the pitcher to bat ninth. On the days when he was pitching, he was moved to the #9 spot and I had to manually put in my left fielder; the play the back-up every second day setting failed to work for me.
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Old 11-11-2015, 03:59 PM   #5
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i don't know if i've just had a crazy string of luck, but i've been seeing lots of these types of players in my drafts lately. i don't really look too hard for them, so it might mean nothng that i am noticing. (3-5/yr that have viable chance of being mlb pitchers or batters. also, there must be more because i do not look these players, i find them by accident)

i see the players with dual talents in both my minor league's pitching and batting screens.

in the pitching screen, they are not listed in the lower right box with relievers and their roles options. i didn't try dragging them down, but i did change one's position from 2b to reliever once and he showed up blow at that point.

i don't know if you can set them up as both a batter and pitcher for games. i just try to pick the better suited role and don't look at it after that point. so, i can't help you with how the game handles them. you'd likely have to micromanage it or sync up days off at a position with his regular turn in the rotation.
This is one of the important draft strategies that I've found. I almost always sort batters by pitching ratings and vice versa in the draft pool because there are almost always some guys who are hidden gems as either two-way players or are clearly better at the other thing.

I currently have a shortstop who I just promoted to Double-A at the age of 20 who is the 17th overall prospect in the game who was listed as a pitcher in the draft pool with terrible potential ratings. For some reason I looked at his ratings page and saw great hitting potential and ended up drafting him in like the 15th round (apparently the AI doesn't notice these types of things). Ever since then, I always make sure to look at all ratings, not just the ratings that correspond to whether the players are listed as hitters or pitchers.
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Old 11-11-2015, 04:21 PM   #6
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I actually had a player in my AAA system that was a pitcher and was horrible at it (which says plenty of my minors). Accidently discovered he was a terrific hitter and pretty good fielder at 3B. Flipped him to try it out for a week. He did good enough for me that he spent the rest of career in big leagues. He was too greedy for me to keep after his arbitration years.
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:47 PM   #7
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All the way back in iOOTP 13 I used Sean Doolittle as my closer and starting LF. I did have to play every game out (I normally sim) i would play him in LF then in the 9th if it was a save situation then i would put in a backup LF and then move Doolittle to pitcher
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:55 AM   #8
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I have never seen the AI use a 2 way player. Babe Ruth in my ABF league never played the field when he pitched and Steve Nebraska who has an offensive stat line of approx .336 16 HR has only 8 AB's and those are in games where my team played his and i dumped the DH for those games.
I have used a few players on my teams as 2 way players and have some success.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:14 AM   #9
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This would be a cool feature. Could aid in simulating older leagues or high school/college ones.
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