Very Annoying - Why can we not restart a season!

[westendcards]

I spent days setting up rosters in MLB, AAA and AA exactly as I wanted them - Making sure I had all rosters filled out and lineups set. I am playing every game for every team. The game messed up (Reported to the bug team) and a game was autoplayed even though I had Sim World turned off, not allow AI to make any moves set on every team and all teams controlled by me. This ruined my goal of playing out every game. Problem is I have no way of deleting this played game in the league history. Furthermore, even if I delete all of the league history it does not go back to the beginning of the season. So now all of the players have zero stats but the games still have box scores and the teams wins and losses. Why do we not have the ability to restart a league with the lineups we currently have. If I start a new season I loose the days of work I put into setting these lineups up. I know, I should have made separate backups and quickstart saves, etc but I did not. I would think one button to allow us to replay a game would solve this issue!!

[BIG17EASY]

A lesson learned -- when you create a league that you spend a lot of time setting up (or any time setting up), save it as a template or a quick start. Or copy a backup file to a different directory. That way if something goes wrong or you find you have a setting that's off, you can go back and start over.

[The Wolf]

Hint: as you are building a complicated league, save the build in stages as you go as templates (0.1, 0.2, 0.3, etc.) on the road to version 1.0. That way any damage/losses you take will be minimal. When you get to 1.0, save it as a template, a QuickStart and also zip up your league file (use 7-zip, it's free and wonderful) as leaguenamev1.zip for an easy reload. Now keep that file on your computer and back that zip file up securely off of your computer (DropBox, Google Drive, USB, etc.).

Make yourself bulletproof. A lot of things can go wrong during league creation.

[david limbaugh]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Hint: as you are building a complicated league, save the build in stages as you go as templates (0.1, 0.2, 0.3, etc.) on the road to version 1.0. That way any damage/losses you take will be minimal. When you get to 1.0, save it as a template, a QuickStart and also zip up your league file (use 7-zip, it's free and wonderful) as leaguenamev1.zip for an easy reload. Now keep that file on your computer and back that zip file up securely off of your computer (DropBox, Google Drive, USB, etc.).

Make yourself bulletproof. A lot of things can go wrong during league creation.

Great advice everybody! Thank You! I learned years ago to do something similar. I save as a quickstart game after each 'step' of the process and in the description I document what I have 'accomplished' so far up to that stage...

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by david limbaugh

Great advice everybody! Thank You! I learned years ago to do something similar. I save as a quickstart game after each 'step' of the process and in the description I document what I have 'accomplished' so far up to that stage...

Templates take up less hard drive space.

[westendcards]

Thanks for the feedback - You would think after 10 years of buying this game every year I would have learned my lesson. But here is the real issue, why did that game play out by itself. I started a new season, again disabled Sim World, set to control every team in MLB, AAA and AA, and I clicked to not allow AI moves. I progressed past the first day and again same thing, some of the games were played out. I have never had that issue in previous versions. Is there a bug causing this or am I missing a new setting somewhere?

[The Wolf]

Stuff happens, in OOTP, and elsewhere in computing. You guard against it all by backing up important files and data properly, and keeping off-site backups as well, just in case.

[Dyzalot]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Stuff happens, in OOTP, and elsewhere in computing. You guard against it all by backing up important files and data properly, and keeping off-site backups as well, just in case.

He's asking for advice on how to prevent this from continuing to happen and your response is "sorry, **** happens"?

[DCG12]

Originally Posted by westendcards

Thanks for the feedback - You would think after 10 years of buying this game every year I would have learned my lesson. But here is the real issue, why did that game play out by itself. I started a new season, again disabled Sim World, set to control every team in MLB, AAA and AA, and I clicked to not allow AI moves. I progressed past the first day and again same thing, some of the games were played out. I have never had that issue in previous versions. Is there a bug causing this or am I missing a new setting somewhere?

I'm confused. You say you "progressed" past the first day. If by progressed you mean you clicked the little check mark in the top right corner then you basically told the game to sim the day. If you are controlling all teams then the schedule screen should present you with the day's games with the option to manage or sim each individual game.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by westendcards

Thanks for the feedback - You would think after 10 years of buying this game every year I would have learned my lesson. But here is the real issue, why did that game play out by itself. I started a new season, again disabled Sim World, set to control every team in MLB, AAA and AA, and I clicked to not allow AI moves. I progressed past the first day and again same thing, some of the games were played out. I have never had that issue in previous versions. Is there a bug causing this or am I missing a new setting somewhere?

Originally Posted by DCG12

I'm confused. You say you "progressed" past the first day. If by progressed you mean you clicked the little check mark in the top right corner then you basically told the game to sim the day. If you are controlling all teams then the schedule screen should present you with the day's games with the option to manage or sim each individual game.

Yeah, my impression is that "not allowing AI moves" has nothing to do with playing out all games.

I'm similarly confused.

[westendcards]

Correct. I played the 1 game (CHC/STL) on the first day. Then I clicked to move to the next day. I am controlling all teams and the sim option is OFF, the schedule screen did show the day's games. The problem is half of the games had already played out so they had box scores. The other half presented me with the option to sim or play them out. I have restarted the season 3 times now, all three times made sure I had all of the settings so the AI should never play a game out or make any changes or trades, and all three times random games are getting played out. I am using the latest revision of the game and have never had this issue in any version of the game until 16. The other oddity is each time I move to the next day different games are played out, it is not the same teams or even the same level (The first time 1 game was played out in the Eastern League on the 9th, second time about half the games at the Major league level were played out on the second day of the season). This makes no sense, I am thinking it has to be a bug. Any other ideas are appreciated.


Thanks

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Hint: as you are building a complicated league, save the build in stages as you go as templates (0.1, 0.2, 0.3, etc.) on the road to version 1.0. That way any damage/losses you take will be minimal. When you get to 1.0, save it as a template, a QuickStart and also zip up your league file (use 7-zip, it's free and wonderful) as leaguenamev1.zip for an easy reload. Now keep that file on your computer and back that zip file up securely off of your computer (DropBox, Google Drive, USB, etc.).

Make yourself bulletproof. A lot of things can go wrong during league creation.

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Templates take up less hard drive space.

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Stuff happens, in OOTP, and elsewhere in computing. You guard against it all by backing up important files and data properly, and keeping off-site backups as well, just in case.

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

He's asking for advice on how to prevent this from continuing to happen and your response is "sorry, **** happens"?

Four posts from Wolf all with helpful advice and all you saw was "Stuff happens"?

Like it or not, even with the last issue posted, Wolf is right a backup is a fix in it at least gets you back to square one. I hope westencards did backup this time before starting after already having issues? If not well then...

The lack of response, though of course the forum isn't all inclusive, at least suggests nobody else is seeing this. If not it could be something in w-cards game settings.

Originally Posted by westendcards

Thanks for the feedback - You would think after 10 years of buying this game every year I would have learned my lesson. But here is the real issue, why did that game play out by itself. I started a new season, again disabled Sim World, set to control every team in MLB, AAA and AA, and I clicked to not allow AI moves. I progressed past the first day and again same thing, some of the games were played out. I have never had that issue in previous versions. Is there a bug causing this or am I missing a new setting somewhere?

Not sure what you mean by "progressed past the first day"? Were there games scheduled on this first day? If so I think "finishing" any day plays out all unplayed games.

Or are you progressing to the season's first day and games are played before you can do anything? If so this is very weird and something I've never seen in 14 years of buying OOTP.

Are you playing from the "Scores" screen? Are you playing out the first game on the schedule and while doing that other games are being played out at the same time? But only some of the games, not all of the other games?

Are you in commish mode while playing out games? I've never played that way but if so maybe that could cause some issues? I don't really know just throwing out some ideas.

I see you said you reported to bug team yesterday, that's good. Maybe if you haven't heard back Monday (it is a volunteer support team on a weekend) PM Matt alerting him to your issue and that you've reported it? With nobody else reporting or confirming they are seeing this issue too, and it's not a setting, surely Matt or Markus will need your file to find out what is happening.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by westendcards

Correct. I played the 1 game (CHC/STL) on the first day. Then I clicked to move to the next day. I am controlling all teams and the sim option is OFF, the schedule screen did show the day's games. The problem is half of the games had already played out so they had box scores. The other half presented me with the option to sim or play them out. I have restarted the season 3 times now, all three times made sure I had all of the settings so the AI should never play a game out or make any changes or trades, and all three times random games are getting played out. I am using the latest revision of the game and have never had this issue in any version of the game until 16. The other oddity is each time I move to the next day different games are played out, it is not the same teams or even the same level (The first time 1 game was played out in the Eastern League on the 9th, second time about half the games at the Major league level were played out on the second day of the season). This makes no sense, I am thinking it has to be a bug. Any other ideas are appreciated.


Thanks

See you posted this while I was typing my response. After reading this I'd send in my file and alert Matt to see what might be happening.

[Dyzalot]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Four posts from Wolf all with helpful advice and all you saw was "Stuff happens"?

The OP was trying to prevent it from happening again. The backing up responses were fine but once the OP comes back and said it happened again and asks for advice on how to prevent it, the response from Wolf is not helpful at all. It is just a flippant response that serves no purpose.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

The OP was trying to prevent it from happening again. The backing up responses were fine but once the OP comes back and said it happened again and asks for advice on how to prevent it, the response from Wolf is not helpful at all. It is just a flippant response that serves no purpose.

And your advice would be?

[westendcards]

OK, let me try to explain again - I have opened the game - It is April 12th and I have 15 games at the ML level to play. I play every game and then do the same for the two AAA and three AA levels. Now that all games have been played I click the check mark in the upper right (Or the auto-play dropdown) and autoplay until tomorrow. First an injury pops up, I address that and then I go to the scores screen. Sometimes all of the games are already played out, sometimes none of them are and sometimes random games are played out. For example, this time 6 of the 15 ML games have already been played, the remaining games are giving me the option to manage or quick-play. After trying this for several days it looks like this issue is happening every other day and it is the same issue in all leagues. I have been playing this game this way for 10 years and this has never happened before.


Are you playing from the "Scores" screen? YES


Are you playing out the first game on the schedule and while doing that other games are being played out at the same time? NO, Simulate world in background is turned off

Are you in commish mode while playing out games? YES

[Dyzalot]

Originally Posted by Sweed

And your advice would be?

To not post flippant remarks that just reiterate what has been said and aren't at all relevant to what the OP was asking for help with. Things like this are what potentially drive away potential or new OOTP players from wanting to contribute to the community.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

To not post flippant remarks that just reiterate what has been said and aren't at all relevant to what the OP was asking for help with. Things like this are what potentially drive away potential or new OOTP players from wanting to contribute to the community.

And your advice to the OP on the topic of the thread you are posting in?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

The OP was trying to prevent it from happening again. The backing up responses were fine but once the OP comes back and said it happened again and asks for advice on how to prevent it, the response from Wolf is not helpful at all. It is just a flippant response that serves no purpose.

And you feel entitled to critique responses while providing no useful solution yourself.

[battists]

Originally Posted by westendcards

OK, let me try to explain again - I have opened the game - It is April 12th and I have 15 games at the ML level to play. I play every game and then do the same for the two AAA and three AA levels. Now that all games have been played I click the check mark in the upper right (Or the auto-play dropdown) and autoplay until tomorrow. First an injury pops up, I address that and then I go to the scores screen. Sometimes all of the games are already played out, sometimes none of them are and sometimes random games are played out. For example, this time 6 of the 15 ML games have already been played, the remaining games are giving me the option to manage or quick-play.

Westend, sorry to ask you for even more detail, but in your example above, you say that on April 12th you have 15 games at the ML to play and that you play every one of them. But then later you say that 6 of the 15 ML games have already been played.

Are you saying that you successfully manually play all of the April 12th games, but then when you "advance to next day," when you look at the schedule for April 13th, some of the games for THAT day have already been played?