Passed Balls/Wild Pitches

wcb231 · 06-17-2015, 08:24 PM

I'm not a huge stats guy, but does it seem like the amount of passed balls/wild pitches with runners on is quite a bit more in this game than IRL? Has anyone tinkered with any settings that might fix this? I feel like I get at least 2+ every game I manage.

ScottM816 · 06-17-2015, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wcb231

I'm not a huge stats guy, but does it seem like the amount of passed balls/wild pitches with runners on is quite a bit more in this game than IRL? Has anyone tinkered with any settings that might fix this? I feel like I get at least 2+ every game I manage.

I definitely agree, I've witnessed 6 in the last 4 games.

MizzouRah · 06-17-2015, 08:49 PM

I think I would have to agree..

r0nster · 06-17-2015, 09:05 PM

I have noticed that the passed balls seem to be more on the steaky side. I have seen a number of times where my pitcher would throw 2 consecutive wild pitches allowing a run to score sometimes a wild pitch then pass ball allowing runner to score. Only seen it work once in my favor and many times against me. I don't worry too much about it for usually when it occurs the game is no longer in doubt. As far as league wide issue I think its pretty good.

Noone_Uknow · 06-17-2015, 09:06 PM

By definition, there has to be a runner on base in order to have a passed ball or wild pitch. I know this issues come up before, and I've seen it happen a lot in my games, but I also know that this have been covered a lot on this forum and it looks like it's a red herring issue...

Gator · 06-17-2015, 09:16 PM

I'm of the mind that the number of wp/pb's is about right, maybe a tad high. That said, what I really notice is how often they result in runs scored. It just seems the runner very often ultimately scores, more so than in RL.

SteveP · 06-18-2015, 12:51 PM

One of the best OOTP-related habits you can develop is to investigate real life stats, which are readily available on-line.

In the case of the OP's concern, I would recommend calculating an average over several years from real life (for whatever era you are playing), and compare that you what your league is getting. Probability dictates that in any given year of your league, you can have a significant variance from real life, but the investigation will be useful.

NoOne · 06-18-2015, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveP

One of the best OOTP-related habits you can develop is to investigate real life stats, which are readily available on-line.

In the case of the OP's concern, I would recommend calculating an average over several years from real life (for whatever era you are playing), and compare that you what your league is getting. Probability dictates that in any given year of your league, you can have a significant variance from real life, but the investigation will be useful.

the smaller and less likely the aspect you are researching, the more years you need. a tidbit i just saw in another thread is that era is important - something that gets lost for me because i only play modern day.

you might need 10-50 years or more, depending.

Fyrestorm3 · 06-18-2015, 10:25 PM

Back in OOTP13, I dropped my Wild Pitch, Passed Ball, and Balk modifiers down to .500, and I haven't touched it since. I'm sure, if I sat down and examined the data, I probably wouldn't have found a major issue with how often they were happening. But to me, the rate of occurrence felt high. And personally, I figured, what do I care if the total number of balks, league-wide, is in line with MLB totals? When is that ever going to come into play? I chose the settings that I felt provided an in-game experience that felt right, and just forgot about it. It's one of the beauties of OOTP - you don't have to settle for a single game engine; everything can be tweaked however you want.

RchW · 06-18-2015, 10:53 PM

In my long running fictional, an MLB analogue the last 21 seasons I've averaged 317 PB. The Major league average for the last 10 seasons is 315. OOTP nails the numbers more often than not.

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For wild pitches. OOTP last 21 seasons 1619, real life MLB last 10 seasons 1602.

NoOne · 06-19-2015, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

In my long running fictional, an MLB analogue the last 21 seasons I've averaged 317 PB. The Major league average for the last 10 seasons is 315. OOTP nails the numbers more often than not.

Edit:

For wild pitches. OOTP last 21 seasons 1619, real life MLB last 10 seasons 1602.

it's certainly a good look so far. they probalby just used a different average (target) than 10years - which is a moderately arbitrary decision to begin with.

just curious: how is fielding and such? i only adjusted my offensive modifiers. i'm hoping those are fine, too.

06-17-2015, 08:24 PM	#1
wcb231 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 19	Passed Balls/Wild Pitches I'm not a huge stats guy, but does it seem like the amount of passed balls/wild pitches with runners on is quite a bit more in this game than IRL? Has anyone tinkered with any settings that might fix this? I feel like I get at least 2+ every game I manage.

06-17-2015, 09:16 PM	#6
Gator Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 151	I'm of the mind that the number of wp/pb's is about right, maybe a tad high. That said, what I really notice is how often they result in runs scored. It just seems the runner very often ultimately scores, more so than in RL. __________________ Baseball will take our people out-of-doors, fill them with oxygen, give them a larger physical stoicism. Tend to relieve us from being a nervous, dyspeptic set, Repair these losses, and be a blessing to us. Walt Whitman

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Fyrestorm3 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tampa Bay, Massachusetts Posts: 2,928	Back in OOTP13, I dropped my Wild Pitch, Passed Ball, and Balk modifiers down to .500, and I haven't touched it since. I'm sure, if I sat down and examined the data, I probably wouldn't have found a major issue with how often they were happening. But to me, the rate of occurrence felt high. And personally, I figured, what do I care if the total number of balks, league-wide, is in line with MLB totals? When is that ever going to come into play? I chose the settings that I felt provided an in-game experience that felt right, and just forgot about it. It's one of the beauties of OOTP - you don't have to settle for a single game engine; everything can be tweaked however you want. __________________ Jersey Template (Photoshop) \| Cap Template (Photoshop)

06-18-2015, 10:53 PM	#10
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	In my long running fictional, an MLB analogue the last 21 seasons I've averaged 317 PB. The Major league average for the last 10 seasons is 315. OOTP nails the numbers more often than not. Edit: For wild pitches. OOTP last 21 seasons 1619, real life MLB last 10 seasons 1602. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit Last edited by RchW; 06-18-2015 at 11:04 PM.

06-17-2015, 08:49 PM	#3
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	I think I would have to agree..

06-17-2015, 09:05 PM	#4
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,082	I have noticed that the passed balls seem to be more on the steaky side. I have seen a number of times where my pitcher would throw 2 consecutive wild pitches allowing a run to score sometimes a wild pitch then pass ball allowing runner to score. Only seen it work once in my favor and many times against me. I don't worry too much about it for usually when it occurs the game is no longer in doubt. As far as league wide issue I think its pretty good.

06-17-2015, 09:06 PM	#5
Noone_Uknow Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Posts: 58	By definition, there has to be a runner on base in order to have a passed ball or wild pitch. I know this issues come up before, and I've seen it happen a lot in my games, but I also know that this have been covered a lot on this forum and it looks like it's a red herring issue...

06-18-2015, 12:51 PM	#7
SteveP Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,109	One of the best OOTP-related habits you can develop is to investigate real life stats, which are readily available on-line. In the case of the OP's concern, I would recommend calculating an average over several years from real life (for whatever era you are playing), and compare that you what your league is getting. Probability dictates that in any given year of your league, you can have a significant variance from real life, but the investigation will be useful.