We Almost Did It

aderosa32 · 09-07-2015, 02:05 AM

It only took 10 years. For 10 years I did not vote for him. Not because I feel I had the power to prevent his induction, but because it was starting to get fun. The same year Slammin Sammy was dropped, Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer.

boogeyboard1 · 09-07-2015, 02:23 AM

Same thing has happened in all of my games too

Déjà Bru · 09-07-2015, 01:25 PM

I don't play real MLB so I don't know about this. I would think the game does not know about steroids cheating, so I would assume that it would vote the likes of Bonds and Sosa into the HoF on their first-year ballot.

Yet, you show Sosa as dropped and Bonds barely getting in the back door. You talk as though you are following the default HoF feature as being only one of "many" voters, not the sole decider.

So, does this mean that the game (and those "other" voters) are aware of the scandal? How is that accomplished? I am guessing that they were assigned "unpopular" ratings by the MLB game designers?

Interesting. I'd like to hear more about this.

r0nster · 09-07-2015, 01:28 PM

I am glad in my solo it never voted Bonds in. His best year was 2033 at 21% of the vote

Déjà Bru · 09-07-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by r0nster

I am glad in my solo it never voted Bonds in. His best year was 2033 at 21% of the vote

Yes, but why?? If the game new nothing but stats, of course he gets in, immediately. Why does the game hesitate to induct Bonds in simulation?

My money is on the negative popularity. What's it called, "Disliked," when somebody is suspended for drugs in the game? If the MLB modders assigned that rating to these villains, that could do the trick. I believe I recall that HoF voting results are partly based on popularity, come to think of it.

r0nster · 09-07-2015, 01:52 PM

truth be told I had actually thought it did include the steroids thing thus making it hard to induct Bonds and others who were tied to drug related issues guilty or not.

aderosa32 · 09-07-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Yes, but why?? If the game new nothing but stats, of course he gets in, immediately. Why does the game hesitate to induct Bonds in simulation?

My money is on the negative popularity. What's it called, "Disliked," when somebody is suspended for drugs in the game? If the MLB modders assigned that rating to these villains, that could do the trick. I believe I recall that HoF voting results are partly based on popularity, come to think of it.

I honestly do not know. My setup is so that my vote is one of many. And what's crazy is how many of the known/rumored steroid users struggle in the HOF voting. Bonds, Clemens, and ManRam are the only ones to make it in so far.

My guess has to be something with the personality or my lack of voting for them. Either way, its fun to watch.

boogeyboard1 · 09-07-2015, 02:49 PM

I always thought it was based on the percentage of votes they'd gotten in past ballots, and it exponentially increased. Guys who haven't been on the ballet before but are guilty of steroid use, like Manny Ramirez, got in on their first try.

rpriske · 09-08-2015, 01:26 PM

If only this were real life and voters would get their heads out of their asses and vote him (and Rocket) in.

Questdog · 09-08-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rpriske

If only this were real life and voters would get their heads out of their asses and vote him (and Rocket) in.

I think you mean "in" instead of "out"......then your comment would make more sense......

BradC · 09-27-2015, 01:23 PM

The game is only aware of historical voting trends. Then a secret sauce kicks in and determines how those trends play out, with the idea that if a player didn't get many votes in the past, there must be a bias against him, so maybe he will continue that downward trend and be dropped, or maybe he will rebound and finally get in, the same way some players have taken many years to finally get in in real life.

I talked to Matt about that once, and that's the gist of what he told me. Specifics, however, are proprietary secrets, so OOTP Dev won't divulge those. Same with a lot of other things in the game.

09-07-2015, 02:05 AM	#1
aderosa32 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 56	We Almost Did It It only took 10 years. For 10 years I did not vote for him. Not because I feel I had the power to prevent his induction, but because it was starting to get fun. The same year Slammin Sammy was dropped, Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer.

09-07-2015, 01:25 PM	#3
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,741	I don't play real MLB so I don't know about this. I would think the game does not know about steroids cheating, so I would assume that it would vote the likes of Bonds and Sosa into the HoF on their first-year ballot. Yet, you show Sosa as dropped and Bonds barely getting in the back door. You talk as though you are following the default HoF feature as being only one of "many" voters, not the sole decider. So, does this mean that the game (and those "other" voters) are aware of the scandal? How is that accomplished? I am guessing that they were assigned "unpopular" ratings by the MLB game designers? Interesting. I'd like to hear more about this. __________________ - Bru

09-08-2015, 01:26 PM	#9
rpriske Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Spencerville, ON, Canada Posts: 27,321	If only this were real life and voters would get their heads out of their asses and vote him (and Rocket) in. __________________ Rusty Priske Poet, Canadian, Baseball Fan ````````````````````````````````````````

09-07-2015, 02:23 AM	#2
boogeyboard1 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,129	Same thing has happened in all of my games too

09-07-2015, 01:28 PM	#4
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,082	I am glad in my solo it never voted Bonds in. His best year was 2033 at 21% of the vote

09-07-2015, 01:52 PM	#6
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,082	truth be told I had actually thought it did include the steroids thing thus making it hard to induct Bonds and others who were tied to drug related issues guilty or not.

09-07-2015, 02:49 PM	#8
boogeyboard1 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,129	I always thought it was based on the percentage of votes they'd gotten in past ballots, and it exponentially increased. Guys who haven't been on the ballet before but are guilty of steroid use, like Manny Ramirez, got in on their first try.

09-27-2015, 01:23 PM	#11
BradC All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: northern CA Posts: 1,885	The game is only aware of historical voting trends. Then a secret sauce kicks in and determines how those trends play out, with the idea that if a player didn't get many votes in the past, there must be a bias against him, so maybe he will continue that downward trend and be dropped, or maybe he will rebound and finally get in, the same way some players have taken many years to finally get in in real life. I talked to Matt about that once, and that's the gist of what he told me. Specifics, however, are proprietary secrets, so OOTP Dev won't divulge those. Same with a lot of other things in the game.