Not a fortuitous start...

[battists]

So, after a million posts and very careful league creation, I started my career as the manager of the New World Liga Mexicana rookie league Juarez Jalapenos!

I know OOTP doesn't do the whole "moving up the ladder" thing very well, but I figured I would try it just the same. Things are a little tricky since I am managing at the lowest level of the minors, and as a result I have 50 players to choose from, instead of the normal 25, and most of them have very little history to go on. (I am playing with stats-only.)

So the season starts out OK. I get to 5-6. Owner thinks I should be .500. Then I proceed to lose 5 out of the next 6 to get to 6-11. Luckily, I have a series coming up against the 2-15 Tijuana Potros, so hopefully I can make some hay. Right? Nope. Game one, we lose 1-0. Eight hits, no runs. Game two, it's 15-2, we are out of it by the second inning. Game three, we finally have the lead heading into the 9th, 4-3. They get a baserunner on with two outs, and a .220 hitting lefty SS at the plate, so I put what I believe is my top lefty in to face him. Playing the matchups, should be good, right? Nope, 2-run walkoff HR.

Sigh. So here I sit in my inaugural campaign on May 1st or so, at 6-14. Oof.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by battists

So, after a million posts and very careful league creation, I started my career as the manager of the New World Liga Mexicana rookie league Juarez Jalapenos!

I know OOTP doesn't do the whole "moving up the ladder" thing very well, but I figured I would try it just the same. Things are a little tricky since I am managing at the lowest level of the minors, and as a result I have 50 players to choose from, instead of the normal 25, and most of them have very little history to go on. (I am playing with stats-only.)

So the season starts out OK. I get to 5-6. Owner thinks I should be .500. Then I proceed to lose 5 out of the next 6 to get to 6-11. Luckily, I have a series coming up against the 2-15 Tijuana Potros, so hopefully I can make some hay. Right? Nope. Game one, we lose 1-0. Eight hits, no runs. Game two, it's 15-2, we are out of it by the second inning. Game three, we finally have the lead heading into the 9th, 4-3. They get a baserunner on with two outs, and a .220 hitting lefty SS at the plate, so I put what I believe is my top lefty in to face him. Playing the matchups, should be good, right? Nope, 2-run walkoff HR.

Sigh. So here I sit in my inaugural campaign on May 1st or so, at 6-14. Oof.

Steve, you've been playing OOTPB for how many years and you still think managing in the minor leagues is a good idea? Not frustrated yet by the almost daily roster fluctuations? What do you think the odds are of you still having a job in July, eh? "Oof" is right!

[The Wolf]

Steve: never, ever, ever manage a minor league team. Ever.

GM an entire organization.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Steve: never, ever, ever manage a minor league team. Ever.

GM an entire organization.

It's your game. play it YOUR way.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

It's your game. play it YOUR way.

He can but he shouldn't. It's been established to be a very bad idea that won't work out.

Just like you can play a game where your entire team is made up of nothing but pitchers. You can, but you shouldn't, because it's a very bad idea that really won't work out.

[The Wolf]

And I would point out that Steve is just starting up playing again, so he needs good, solid, rational advice.

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Just like you can play a game where your entire team is made up of nothing but pitchers. You can, but you shouldn't, because it's a very bad idea that really won't work out.

It's a very bad idea if your goal is to win. If your goal is just to see what kind of crazy stuff might happen, then it's a damn fine idea, if you ask me.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

And I would point out that Steve is just starting up playing again, so he needs good, solid, rational advice.

That only I (The Wolf) can provide!

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by RchW

That only I (The Wolf) can provide!

Don't make this personal.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

It's a very bad idea if your goal is to win. If your goal is just to see what kind of crazy stuff might happen, then it's a damn fine idea, if you ask me.

Have you ever tried it? I have.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Steve, you've been playing OOTPB for how many years and you still think managing in the minor leagues is a good idea? Not frustrated yet by the almost daily roster fluctuations? What do you think the odds are of you still having a job in July, eh? "Oof" is right!

Now that I said this, I'm wondering if anybody has had a positive experience managing in the minors. Has anyone risen through the ranks without:

• being fired?
• getting bored and/or frustrated?

If so, post here and give poor battists some encouragement and advice!

[BIG17EASY]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Have you ever tried it? I have.

No, but I got a kick out of the stories posted yesterday of teams made of only shortstops and only Adam Dunns. I don't think it's up to you or anyone else to explain to me what I find enjoyable.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

He can but he shouldn't. It's been established to be a very bad idea that won't work out.

Just like you can play a game where your entire team is made up of nothing but pitchers. You can, but you shouldn't, because it's a very bad idea that really won't work out.

LOL, I am actually currently playing a game made up of only pitchers!

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Now that I said this, I'm wondering if anybody has had a positive experience managing in the minors. Has anyone risen through the ranks without:

• being fired?
• getting bored and/or frustrated?

If so, post here and give poor battists some encouragement and advice!

I've been reading these boards since 6.5. No one has ever reported a positive experience that I've seen.

[The Wolf]

I always have built-in assumption that people are trying to simulate baseball when they use a baseball simulator. I forget to what extremes some people's tastes run. Sorry, I'll try my best not to overestimate you all again.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

No, but I got a kick out of the stories posted yesterday of teams made of only shortstops and only Adam Dunns. I don't think it's up to you or anyone else to explain to me what I find enjoyable.

Actually, I was telling you that I've done what Battis is trying to do and it just doesn't work. But have fun with your straw man argument.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by battists

So, after a million posts and very careful league creation, I started my career as the manager of the New World Liga Mexicana rookie league Juarez Jalapenos!

I know OOTP doesn't do the whole "moving up the ladder" thing very well, but I figured I would try it just the same. Things are a little tricky since I am managing at the lowest level of the minors, and as a result I have 50 players to choose from, instead of the normal 25, and most of them have very little history to go on. (I am playing with stats-only.)

So the season starts out OK. I get to 5-6. Owner thinks I should be .500. Then I proceed to lose 5 out of the next 6 to get to 6-11. Luckily, I have a series coming up against the 2-15 Tijuana Potros, so hopefully I can make some hay. Right? Nope. Game one, we lose 1-0. Eight hits, no runs. Game two, it's 15-2, we are out of it by the second inning. Game three, we finally have the lead heading into the 9th, 4-3. They get a baserunner on with two outs, and a .220 hitting lefty SS at the plate, so I put what I believe is my top lefty in to face him. Playing the matchups, should be good, right? Nope, 2-run walkoff HR.

Sigh. So here I sit in my inaugural campaign on May 1st or so, at 6-14. Oof.

Stick it out and let us know how things turn out.

[battists]

Alright everyone, stop arguing in my thread.

Frankly, the main reason I am doing this is because I have never done "stats only" before and I wanted to get some practice before I ruin an entire organization.

I haven't found the experience to be negative so far, except in that I (or my team) suck.

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I always have built-in assumption that people are trying to simulate baseball when they use a baseball simulator. I forget to what extremes some people's tastes run. Sorry, I'll try my best not to overestimate you all again.

Who exactly are you talking to? If you are referring to my post about an all pitcher league, don't pretend like you've never messed around in a game because you got bored.

[silvam14]

I think that the The Wolf's assumption that some people here are only interested in leagues with crazy scenarios and that those same people haven't played or are not currently enjoying other real life type leagues is the most laughable thing in this thread so far.