Always a good day to blow $132,000,000

jpeters1734 · 07-27-2014, 06:43 AM

I get the cream of the crop in FA to sign with me. He has no injury history really. I decide to lock him up and have the best pitcher in the game retire as an Oiler. I sign him for 6 years, $132 mil. He begins the season playing the best ball in his career for me. My team is at the top of the league!

Then this happens. By the time Kikuchi recovers (if), he will be a 35 year old starting pitcher with a major injury in his records. I think I may have wasted a lot of money!

madJ · 07-27-2014, 09:43 AM

Sounds awfully familiar.

The Wolf · 07-27-2014, 12:00 PM

I fully sympathize, but you don't get the medal until you have lost your entire starting rotation to injury.

MarkVIIIMarc · 07-27-2014, 12:14 PM

THAT sucks. Realistic though. Pitching at 90+ mph must be unnatural. Being a quarterback carries less risk of surgery....brain trauma but not surgery.

Déjà Bru · 07-27-2014, 12:43 PM

I love the frowny face.

Hockey13Playa · 07-27-2014, 03:11 PM

Ouch that is rough for sure!

rudel.dietrich · 07-27-2014, 03:18 PM

Don't despair. Let him come back and perhaps he can be effective. If not then perhaps he can move into a long relief role and with careful management pitch about 150 IP a year with a few starts here and there.

bobfrig · 07-27-2014, 05:59 PM

Plenty of pitchers can come back from UCL tears and still be just as successful

Tram2Whitaker · 07-27-2014, 10:03 PM

If he has no injury history, then what happened to his 2008 season, when he was 26? The screen capture shows AAA service for 2010, yet nothing for 2008. That's exactly why I never sign anyone over the age of 32. OOTP players go downhill quickly. 28 to 30, you get the 6-8 year deal; 30-32, 3 - maybe 4 years; 32+ only if you've played for me your entire career, and are quite possibly on a HOF track

The Wolf · 07-27-2014, 10:47 PM

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ugly-news.html

The Wolf · 07-27-2014, 10:49 PM

"The chances of a complete recovery after the modern [Tommy John] surgery are estimated at 85 to 90 percent." - Baseball Reference

Rockfan616 · 07-28-2014, 01:05 AM

Yeah that's pretty rough....although I've had it happen to me as well but it's rough to see it happen to anyone...sorry man!! :-(

Lukas Berger · 07-28-2014, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wolf

"The chances of a complete recovery after the modern [Tommy John] surgery are estimated at 85 to 90 percent." - Baseball Reference

It's gotten to the point where folks assume that a player will automatically fully recover after Tommy John. But as that quote references, there's still a significant chance (10-15%) that any given player won't fully recover. That's actually a pretty big deal, and recovery really shouldn't be treated as a given. I certainly wouldn't want to trust my life (or career) to those odds, relatively favorable as they may be.

jpeters1734 · 07-28-2014, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tram2Whitaker

If he has no injury history, then what happened to his 2008 season, when he was 26? The screen capture shows AAA service for 2010, yet nothing for 2008. That's exactly why I never sign anyone over the age of 32. OOTP players go downhill quickly. 28 to 30, you get the 6-8 year deal; 30-32, 3 - maybe 4 years; 32+ only if you've played for me your entire career, and are quite possibly on a HOF track

Wow, I can't believe I over looked that! Yep he went down with a torn UCL in Sep of '07 and missed all of '08. Maybe I should have been more careful.

I saw the small injury in '10 but considered it minor compared to the rest of his career.

Maybe I'll try to trade him. Does the AI pay attention to the injury rating?

bobfrig · 07-28-2014, 07:40 AM

it doesnt but if hes still injured you're gonna have to wait it out

Cras · 07-28-2014, 04:33 PM

6 year contract for a starting pitcher.....aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,114	Always a good day to blow $132,000,000 I get the cream of the crop in FA to sign with me. He has no injury history really. I decide to lock him up and have the best pitcher in the game retire as an Oiler. I sign him for 6 years, $132 mil. He begins the season playing the best ball in his career for me. My team is at the top of the league! Then this happens. By the time Kikuchi recovers (if), he will be a 35 year old starting pitcher with a major injury in his records. I think I may have wasted a lot of money!

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Tram2Whitaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 619	If he has no injury history, then what happened to his 2008 season, when he was 26? The screen capture shows AAA service for 2010, yet nothing for 2008. That's exactly why I never sign anyone over the age of 32. OOTP players go downhill quickly. 28 to 30, you get the 6-8 year deal; 30-32, 3 - maybe 4 years; 32+ only if you've played for me your entire career, and are quite possibly on a HOF track __________________ 404'd! Last edited by Tram2Whitaker; 07-27-2014 at 10:12 PM.

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madJ Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 361	Sounds awfully familiar.

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MarkVIIIMarc Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 35	THAT sucks. Realistic though. Pitching at 90+ mph must be unnatural. Being a quarterback carries less risk of surgery....brain trauma but not surgery.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Don't despair. Let him come back and perhaps he can be effective. If not then perhaps he can move into a long relief role and with careful management pitch about 150 IP a year with a few starts here and there.

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Rockfan616 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 275	Yeah that's pretty rough....although I've had it happen to me as well but it's rough to see it happen to anyone...sorry man!! :-(

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bobfrig Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 94	it doesnt but if hes still injured you're gonna have to wait it out __________________ always classy, never trashy

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