World template 1901

[Carlton]

Can you guys check this out and offer any suggestions before I import into 15?

Not sure you guys can grab my world.dat file and use it for anything, so I just added the template

EDIT- Actually I can't upload a template file...my bad

[tayloraj]

Ahh, the search for an absolutely perfect 1901 template...it's been the great white whale of my OOTP life...I've been tinkering with it for years (generally no carryover between versions of the game; my current attempt has all been done in OOTP 14). How do you generally attempt to set up your 1901 template?

[joefromchicago]

Originally Posted by Carlton

EDIT- Actually I can't upload a template file...my bad

The file is over 9,000 kb, so yeah, you won't be able to upload that. You could post a list of the nations - that would be a start.

The problem, though, isn't creating the template, it's the fact that the world_default.xml file can't be updated. In other words, once you start in 1900, it will always be 1900.

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

The file is over 9,000 kb, so yeah, you won't be able to upload that. You could post a list of the nations - that would be a start.



The problem, though, isn't creating the template, it's the fact that the world_default.xml file can't be updated. In other words, once you start in 1900, it will always be 1900.

Nope... you can go into game-> database, and then in the corner click tools-> re-import world default XML. When asked if you want to add new information (ex. new nations) or simply update current info, click "add new"

Only problem is you can't delete nations but you can manually do that by setting baseball quality to 0, etc.

[joefromchicago]

Originally Posted by Ike348

Nope... you can go into game-> database, and then in the corner click tools-> re-import world default XML. When asked if you want to add new information (ex. new nations) or simply update current info, click "add new"

When did that happen? Is that new in version 14?

[Ike348]

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

When did that happen? Is that new in version 14?

No idea. I jumped from 8 to 14...

[Carlton]

Joe, it was in 13 as well, I just never had the nerve to press the button


Hopefully this is what you need

U.S. is excellent
Names
U.s historical = 2500 (not sure why this is so high I think because of the enormous ethic groups)
U.K. =300
Canadian =6
German =5
Italian= 4
French= 3
Scandinavien/finnish/swedish/russian/Czech/polish/scottish/irish = 2
U.S. modern/greek/australian/austrian/romanian = 1


CANADA = Average

Scotland/Netherlands/Italy/Ireland/Germany/Finland/England=Fair

Wales/Virgin Islands/Ukraine/Switzerland/Sweden/Spain/Russia/Poland/Norway/Northern ireland/Netherland Antilles/Hungary/Greece/france/Denmark/Czech republic/Bermuda/Belgium/barbados/bahamas/Austria/Australia =POOR

All others are Non existent

in 1920 I will change Cuba to Fair, Canada to Good and Mexico to poor
In 1930 japan goes to fair, Cuba to good
1950 Japan and Cuba excellent, Mexico and Puerto Rico=good

Then in the 40's-2000s increase the Latin America nations up...but not as extreme as they are today

[joefromchicago]

Originally Posted by Carlton

Joe, it was in 13 as well, I just never had the nerve to press the button


Hopefully this is what you need

U.S. is excellent
Names
U.s historical = 2500 (not sure why this is so high I think because of the enormous ethic groups)
U.K. =300
Canadian =6
German =5
Italian= 4
French= 3
Scandinavien/finnish/swedish/russian/Czech/polish/scottish/irish = 2
U.S. modern/greek/australian/austrian/romanian = 1

The numbers look fine, but you may be disappointed with the results. Although there were a number of foreign-born players in the majors at the turn of the 20th century, they typically didn't have foreign names (especially first names), which is what you'll end up with if you use the foreign namesets. For instance, a German-born player named Augustus Müller might play under the name Gus Miller, just as a player named Aloys Szymanski ended up being called Al Simmons.

Originally Posted by Carlton

in 1920 I will change Cuba to Fair, Canada to Good and Mexico to poor

The first Cuban in pro ball played in the NA in 1871, and the first Cuban players in the major leagues debuted with the Reds in 1911, so Cuba should be ranked at least "Fair" before 1920. If you're not imposing the color barrier, Cuba should be ranked even higher than that. The first Mexican player in the majors, on the other hand, didn't appear until 1933. A helpful list of the first MLB players from various nations can be found here.

Originally Posted by Carlton

In 1930 japan goes to fair, Cuba to good

Unless you're running Japanese leagues simultaneously with your American leagues, I wouldn't rate Japan higher than "Non-Existent" until the 1960s, since the first Japanese player didn't reach the majors until 1964. Plus, if you introduce Japanese players into the mix in the 1930s, you'll need to figure out what to do with them when the war starts in 1941.

[Carlton]

For the rare German player, just change his first name to Heinie!

As for Cubans, yes I know about Almeida and Marsans of the 1911 Reds. And also that they were not the first Cubans as Chick Pedroes was born in Havana, and he played for the Orphans in 1902.

Bellan was an aberration, as he was attending college in NYC. No Cubans from him to Pedroes makes me not want to make it fair so soon.

Armando Marsans is one of my greatest stories in my last league, as his base clearing triple in one WS led to the Reds only title in 60 years. He was a great defensive CF who could steal and bunt for a hit

I guess I should have Cuba as poor in 1901, fair in 1910 and then average in 1920

For Japanese players, it's Lefty O'Doul propping up the league thay will make it fair...and I have a Utopia universe, so no need to worry about the 40's for me

I am also using real players, so this is just for rare players I may add to bump up the minor leagues or when I turn on scouting and maintain hidden players, where it will draw from.

Thanks for the advice!
The Cuban one was something I needed to address