International Competition & Team Personnel Record

[Goldash]

Hello, all. One of the first few posts I've made since logging in after a long absence. Maybe these are considered definite "fringe features" but they'll be a few things I'd like to see.

I currently play OOTP12, so apologies if these were added in past editions or have been suggested numerous times on this forum already:

International Competitions / Tournaments (e.g. WBC, Olympics)
I made this suggestion eons ago for OOTP12, so I'll copy my post verbatim as it describes what I'd like to see in detail:

International teams that function as all-star teams could be an interesting option for an Olympic or WBC-styled tournament, if the user desires. "Loaning" players for international competition would be tricky to code, but it would certainly make things interesting. I don't know how logical it would be to create a separate international league for a 20+ game competition that happens every 1-4 years and doesn't "own" its players, but it would certainly be an interesting idea.

Manager and Personnel Histories
Sometimes, I get the desire to read up on a team's past managers that have long since retired. Since this data isn't present in a team's yearly summary on its History page (at least in OOTP12), I think it would be good to include a "Past Managers" or "Past Personnel" section --- that, or just including the staff or manager's name(s) in the yearly summary. It's a small detail but it helps to ease the process of trying to track a team's history.


It's also strange that Manager of the Year Awards aren't tracked anywhere but in the individual manager's Personnel History tab (again, as of OOTP12). If these were included with the Player Awards it would make things much more organized.

I'm looking forward to OOTP15 and may just finally upgrade my large fictional database from OOTP12. These minor features aren't dealbreakers by any means, just stuff I'd like to see in the game.

[flaquis010285]

Originally Posted by Goldash

International Competitions / Tournaments (e.g. WBC, Olympics)
I made this suggestion eons ago for OOTP12, so I'll copy my post verbatim as it describes what I'd like to see in detail:

International teams that function as all-star teams could be an interesting option for an Olympic or WBC-styled tournament, if the user desires. "Loaning" players for international competition would be tricky to code, but it would certainly make things interesting. I don't know how logical it would be to create a separate international league for a 20+ game competition that happens every 1-4 years and doesn't "own" its players, but it would certainly be an interesting idea.

Wished always this since I bought OOTP for the first time (this was the 6th version, back in 2005)

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by Goldash

Hello, all. One of the first few posts I've made since logging in after a long absence. Maybe these are considered definite "fringe features" but they'll be a few things I'd like to see.

I currently play OOTP12, so apologies if these were added in past editions or have been suggested numerous times on this forum already:

International Competitions / Tournaments (e.g. WBC, Olympics)
I made this suggestion eons ago for OOTP12, so I'll copy my post verbatim as it describes what I'd like to see in detail:

International teams that function as all-star teams could be an interesting option for an Olympic or WBC-styled tournament, if the user desires. "Loaning" players for international competition would be tricky to code, but it would certainly make things interesting. I don't know how logical it would be to create a separate international league for a 20+ game competition that happens every 1-4 years and doesn't "own" its players, but it would certainly be an interesting idea.

I would definitely love to see this too.

[Caporegime]

I was once a fervent supporter of adding the WBC to OOTP, but after watching the last WBC, I have reservations. There are a lot of whacky rules in the WBC that you don't see in MLB: The mercy rule, strict rules pertaining to pitch counts, and most ridiculous of all, teams automatically starting with runners on first and second base after the 13th inning. I mean, WTF is that? To me, that's not baseball, and I can't imagine how Markus would even begin to program in such arcane, un-baseball like, and assuredly, asinine rules into OOTP.

Now, I would LOVE to see just plain old baseball as we know and love it without the exotic rules of the WBC go international in OOTP, However, considering how Markus usually (and rightfully) likes to program features in OOTP as realistically as possible, where's the basis in reality for imposing standard MLB rules on the WBC? Maybe we can just have a World Cup of Baseball incorporated in OOTP, where the game is actually played the way it's supposed to.

[tomwolf2008]

Originally Posted by Caporegime

I was once a fervent supporter of adding the WBC to OOTP, but after watching the last WBC, I have reservations. There are a lot of whacky rules in the WBC that you don't see in MLB: The mercy rule, strict rules pertaining to pitch counts, and most ridiculous of all, teams automatically starting with runners on first and second base after the 13th inning. I mean, WTF is that? To me, that's not baseball, and I can't imagine how Markus would even begin to program in such arcane, un-baseball like, and assuredly, asinine rules into OOTP.

Now, I would LOVE to see just plain old baseball as we know and love it without the exotic rules of the WBC go international in OOTP, However, considering how Markus usually (and rightfully) likes to program features in OOTP as realistically as possible, where's the basis in reality for imposing standard MLB rules on the WBC? Maybe we can just have a World Cup of Baseball incorporated in OOTP, where the game is actually played the way it's supposed to.

There is a reason that WBC used the rule as it is, the WBC begins in spring training which for the most part pitchers aren't accustomed to throw 100+ pitches on a regular rest schedule, so pitch counts are certainly (at least imo) necessary. If you have the pitch count rule, then the extra inning rule make sense because if you happened to played into 13th inning you probably are or going to running out of pitchers pretty soon so you want the game end quickly, hence the extra inning rule. And the mercy rule is used throughout the international competition that affaliated with IBAF, WBC is not the only one uses it.

Now, with that been said, I agree these rules are probably going to really difficult to code, so I just want some kind of international competition in the game, they don't have to follow the exact rule of WBC or whatever rules other competition is using, an international competition using MLB rule is fine with me

[Goldash]

I use the example of the old Eastside Hockey Manager series (and the current Football Manager). Players usually get temporarily "loaned" for international competition and return to their old teams when the competition finishes. Rules for competitions could be set exactly like certain league rules, for example. We could, essentially, set international competitions up as separate leagues themselves (albeit with recurring, temporary rosters).

In OOTP12, I attempted an internationally-based league with a 20-game season and no financials, setting each team to only accept players of the nation the team was based in. Instead, I ended up seeing nearly every major international free agent sign for free with these international teams in the offseason (for example: a young superstar e.g. Trout or Harper can't reach a deal with his club and decides to sign with "Team USA" for free instead of hitting the free agent market).

I eventually consolidated it into a "European Baseball Championship" with six European nations not widely known for baseball (Germany, Netherlands, Greece, Finland, Spain and Macedonia) then closed it after a few seasons due to a scheduling glitch of some sort.

Anyway, this feature is certainly not a dealbreaker for me, and I'd certainly prefer to have it implemented correctly instead of something that causes players to disappear (or any other potentially cataclysmic consequence).