Historical league: new players Jan 1st

dawg_gone · 11-26-2012, 07:25 PM

First, let me say sorry for the long post, but I don't know how to ask this in a brief way.

I started up a historical game, and didn't pay too much attention to settings I didn't understand at first.

Partway through the year, I realized there were only a few players on my minor league rosters, and I recognized them as players who reached the bigs at some point in their careers. I searched the forums and learned that the historical rosters don't include the full minor league rosters. So I wondered how the game was simulating the minor leagues with incomplete rosters, and that's when I learned about the ghost players option. I saw that I had the "enable ghost players" option checked.

So I'm well into my first season when I realize this. I go to the game options and select "fill rosters with fictional players." Voila, all my minor league rosters are now full.

Now I'm into the following season, and I'm finding a few players on my minor league rosters who appeared on January 1st of this new year. I presume these are fictional players, but I thought that was a one-time deal. I thought that the draft would fill up all the rosters.

Q1. I'm pretty sure all rosters were more or less full at the end of the year. Are these January 1st guys showing up to fill the voids of players on the DL at each team? In other words, if I have 3 players on the DL at season end, and therefore 3 roster holes throughout my system, then I'm getting 3 January 1st kids show up?

Q2. How do I keep these January 1st players from showing up in the future? I know about the "prevent fictional players from reaching the bigs" toggle, but I'd like to keep my rosters populated only through the drafts, if possible.

Bluenoser · 11-26-2012, 07:29 PM

Sounds like you're importing historical players and having them assigned to their original team.

dawg_gone · 11-26-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Sounds like you're importing historical players and having them assigned to their original team.

"Automatically import historical rookies" is checked. Is that who these guys are? They don't have a real life stats tab.

Edit - and they're not real players. I've checked a few of the names on baseball-reference.com.

Charlie Hough · 11-27-2012, 04:49 AM

You really need to start over and make sure that you understand all of the league settings. I generally advise against using fictional minor leaguers in historical leagues. Once you start allowing fictional players or use some of the mass roster functions, you can inadvertently create problems for yourself, especially if that action conflicts with the intention of your original settings.

If you only use historical players that reached the majors and you allow the game to simulate minors with ghost players, you'll be perfectly fine. In fact, you don't even need the minors. You can simply use the reserve list option instead. I often run historical leagues using a reserve list of up to 15 players or with only one level of minors.

dawg_gone · 11-27-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough

You really need to start over and make sure that you understand all of the league settings.

Not to worry, friend. If I had no stomach for mistakes, I'd never have gotten married.

With a complex game like this, I have to jump in and learn as I go, or I'll never jump in to start with. I'm having a ball with it. Love all the database options of export/import, the myriad settings and tweaks. Love it, love it. I've started up a fictional league to and am messing around with that. It's awesome.

I really have no problem with fictional players entering my historical leagues - to me it's all alternate reality anyway, so why not? - but I expected them to come up organically through the farms and gradually pop in here and there. The January 1st kids were a surprise. I think they must in fact be the historical rookies but under fictional names, since I already did a draft of the historical rookies. They've all been coming down with a severe case of career ending migraines, I'm sorry to say.

Appreciate all the good info. I'll continue to make plenty more mistakes so I can learn how I like to fly.

11-26-2012, 07:25 PM	#1
dawg_gone Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 106	Historical league: new players Jan 1st First, let me say sorry for the long post, but I don't know how to ask this in a brief way. I started up a historical game, and didn't pay too much attention to settings I didn't understand at first. Partway through the year, I realized there were only a few players on my minor league rosters, and I recognized them as players who reached the bigs at some point in their careers. I searched the forums and learned that the historical rosters don't include the full minor league rosters. So I wondered how the game was simulating the minor leagues with incomplete rosters, and that's when I learned about the ghost players option. I saw that I had the "enable ghost players" option checked. So I'm well into my first season when I realize this. I go to the game options and select "fill rosters with fictional players." Voila, all my minor league rosters are now full. Now I'm into the following season, and I'm finding a few players on my minor league rosters who appeared on January 1st of this new year. I presume these are fictional players, but I thought that was a one-time deal. I thought that the draft would fill up all the rosters. Q1. I'm pretty sure all rosters were more or less full at the end of the year. Are these January 1st guys showing up to fill the voids of players on the DL at each team? In other words, if I have 3 players on the DL at season end, and therefore 3 roster holes throughout my system, then I'm getting 3 January 1st kids show up? Q2. How do I keep these January 1st players from showing up in the future? I know about the "prevent fictional players from reaching the bigs" toggle, but I'd like to keep my rosters populated only through the drafts, if possible.

11-26-2012, 07:29 PM	#2
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,475	Sounds like you're importing historical players and having them assigned to their original team.

11-27-2012, 04:49 AM	#4
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,644	You really need to start over and make sure that you understand all of the league settings. I generally advise against using fictional minor leaguers in historical leagues. Once you start allowing fictional players or use some of the mass roster functions, you can inadvertently create problems for yourself, especially if that action conflicts with the intention of your original settings. If you only use historical players that reached the majors and you allow the game to simulate minors with ghost players, you'll be perfectly fine. In fact, you don't even need the minors. You can simply use the reserve list option instead. I often run historical leagues using a reserve list of up to 15 players or with only one level of minors.