Scouting Report Turns Negative Hard

[zero2426]

Hey, I have a player who was the #1 prospect in the league. Its a fictional league, so I rely on Scouting Reports a lot. He went from Will win Cy Young to Minor League Journeyman in one sim. He is 22. Is it because his ratings increased to a point where they judge him on his current ratings not his considerable potential that remains, because he played a certain amounts of innings in the majors, or because he sucks now

[Izz]

Sounds like your scout saw something that wasn't actually there.

[zero2426]

It's actual ratings, and his actual current potential ratings haven't changed, just what the report said

[Izz]

So your scouting settings are at 100% accurate? That throws my other theory out, about it being random talent change, as the ratings would change if scouting is exact.

What's his work ethic and intelligence like?

What were his stats over the season? I'm not sure if it's just the scouts on AI teams, but depending on what emphasis the AI eval settings have on stats, that could change the scout's opinion. Maybe.

[BIG17EASY]

What's your Talent Change Randomness setting? You can find it under Player & Picture Options in the Game Setup screen. That value affects how often players will experience significant talent changes from season to season.

[zero2426]

You know, Im thinking its a CPU little glitchy thing

Both these guys are top prospects that are now MLB ready, pitching in their first year

http://pbdl2012.com/game/lgreports/p...layer_622.html
http://pbdl2012.com/game/lgreports/p...ayer_2431.html

Both have the great ratings. The second guy has a sub 3 ERA. Both have scouting reports that are strongly negative

[sc_superstar]

The AI is basing the scouting reports off of their relative worth to ML level. While they are prospects, they get scouted as such, once they lose rookie status they get treated as any other ML player.

Chow has very low control right now, so he is going to have a low scout opinion because of his low control and the stats that reflect that.

With Matthews the scout would have looked at how horrible he pitched last season and made the basis on that.

That being said if you ran a re-scout on both players, Chow would probably still have a bad or at least not good scouting report. whereas Matthews would probably be better than current, only because he now has decent ratings and decent stats so the scout can see the good in him now.

[zero2426]

Originally Posted by sc_superstar

The AI is basing the scouting reports off of their relative worth to ML level. While they are prospects, they get scouted as such, once they lose rookie status they get treated as any other ML player.

Chow has very low control right now, so he is going to have a low scout opinion because of his low control and the stats that reflect that.

With Matthews the scout would have looked at how horrible he pitched last season and made the basis on that.

That being said if you ran a re-scout on both players, Chow would probably still have a bad or at least not good scouting report. whereas Matthews would probably be better than current, only because he now has decent ratings and decent stats so the scout can see the good in him now.

So I dont have to worry about my top guy starting to suck?

[MacIsaacM]

If you have talent change randomness and your scouting isn't 100% accurate, then it sounds like these are just the pains of the game (in real life and in OOTP). I've flushed many a million down the tube on signing bonuses as potential Hall of Famers turn into minor league journeymen.

If you find the changes are just too random -- I personally did -- change your talent randomness. I moved mine down to 80, and I find that even that small change has made a difference. I still have nobodies at 18 who are winning MVPs at 25 and I have potential Hall of Famers who are working at Lowe's by the time they're 25, but am still happy with how predicted future superstars still get to the big leagues a bit more often than the one-star potential prospects.

[sc_superstar]

Originally Posted by zero2426

So I dont have to worry about my top guy starting to suck?

It's not a given either way at this point. I've seen five star prospect pitchers turn into two star pitchers just because they never get any better than their current ratings.

Ex I had a guy go like this:

Stuff Movement Control Stars
8(10) 6(8) 3(7) 1.5(5)
9(10) 7(8) 3(7) 1.5(5)
10(10 8(8) 3(6) 2(4)
10(10) 8(8) 3(6) 2(3.5)
10(10) 8(8) 3(4) 2(2.5)
10(10) 8(8) 3(3) 2(2)

Former 1st overall goes from stud to bust, and gets non tendered during his arbitration years. Had a high GB% (65+) and Velocity at 98-100. Just never gained that control.

Keep an eye on your pick, don't let him get shelled if you can help it, and hope TCR/Injuries don't destroy him and he should be fine. As long as he isnt getting shelled every start then he should be fine. And as long as he is at the right level for his talents, he shouldnt.

I've also seen scouting reports change up and down depending on level. Had a stud prospect pitcher go from "Should challenge for awards" then I brought him up he got hit pretty hard and he changed to "back of the rotation starter" then i sent him down and by next season he was "front of the rotation starter"

[zero2426]

He's been up and down. He has starts when he gets hooked quickly, and starts with top 25 game scores for the year.