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jaxmagicman · 10-05-2012, 07:58 PM

Bad calls are part of the game. Throwing stuff on the field is not.

The Game · 10-05-2012, 07:59 PM

So was the call correct? Where's LGO?

LeiterFanatic · 10-05-2012, 08:01 PM

Bad move in this one and done playoff to make a bush call like that. Way to go

jaxmagicman · 10-05-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Game

So was the call correct? Where's LGO?

It was not. It could have been correct if the infielder could have easily caught the ball. It also needs to be called early.

rudel.dietrich · 10-05-2012, 08:04 PM

That was a horrendously bad call. The ball landed in the mid outfield. There was an earlier bad call too to give David Ross time after Lohse had began his windup and gave him a free swing to hit a two run HR.

But yeah, throwing stuff on the field is bad. They need to get this under control.

Then again, if this happened in Brazil or Scotland someone would have died by now

LeiterFanatic · 10-05-2012, 08:07 PM

Worse than the botched call itself is the potential to have the Braves season hinge on it.

rudel.dietrich · 10-05-2012, 08:08 PM

I just looked up the rule and there actually is a fair bit of interpertation given to the umpire to judge 'ordinary effort'

But I would imagine ordinary effort would not be a ball hit so deep that the left fielder calls off the shortstop.

jaxmagicman · 10-05-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

That was a horrendously bad call. The ball landed in the mid outfield. There was an earlier bad call too to give David Ross time after Lohse had began his windup and gave him a free swing to hit a two run HR.

But yeah, throwing stuff on the field is bad. They need to get this under control.

Then again, if this happened in Brazil or Scotland someone would have died by now

It could be an infield fly rule out even if it lands in the outfield. But it has to be ordinary effort by the infielder. And that takes into account all the elements. Given everything it was not ordinary.

RchW · 10-05-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

That was a horrendously bad call. The ball landed in the mid outfield. There was an earlier bad call too to give David Ross time after Lohse had began his windup and gave him a free swing to hit a two run HR.

But yeah, throwing stuff on the field is bad. They need to get this under control.

Then again, if this happened in Brazil or Scotland someone would have died by now

What the eff do you know about Scotland. It's not over in the US yet.

jaxmagicman · 10-05-2012, 08:11 PM

They cannot change the call because it cannot be overturned.

RchW · 10-05-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

It could be an infield fly rule out even if it lands in the outfield. But it has to be ordinary effort by the infielder. And that takes into account all the elements. Given everything it was not ordinary.

It could have been ordinary effort. A stretch but defensible. The issue was the rule was not invoked until just before the ball landed. The runners need to be informed early in order to tag up. You can see they were hung up.

rudel.dietrich · 10-05-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

What the eff do you know about Scotland. It's not over in the US yet.

Edit BTW Screw you.

I was making allusions to the Rangers-Celtic rivalry but I was largely joking. Sorry

The Game · 10-05-2012, 08:33 PM

Way to go Chipper...apparently this ain't over yet. Come on Cards!

Cryomaniac · 10-05-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

They cannot change the call because it cannot be overturned.

No, but ATL can protest the game. Of course they wont, and even if they did MLB would never overturn it.

jaxmagicman · 10-05-2012, 08:35 PM

No doubt in my mind Uggla ks

jaxmagicman · 10-05-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

No, but ATL can protest the game. Of course they wont, and even if they did MLB would never overturn it.

Yep. No way they overrule it. Like RchW said. The effort could be defensible if you 'stretch' the rule.

ukhotstove · 10-05-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Then again, if this happened in Brazil or Scotland someone would have died by now

OT and offensive.

ukhotstove · 10-05-2012, 08:45 PM

How time flies, Chipper started in the majors about the same time I really got into baseball glad he got on base with his last at bat, also glad the Cardinals advance (Matheny my favourite player ever).

rudel.dietrich · 10-05-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

OT and offensive.

It was on my part. I apologize

bailey · 10-05-2012, 08:53 PM

According to the TV commentator, once the infield fly rule is called the runners are supposed to tag up and advance at their own risk. But clearly, the guy on 2nd base did NOT tag up. He was between bases when the IFR was called. So, St. Louis could've ended the inning right there by throwing over to 3rd once play resumed.

The infield fly rule is backwards. It should be "if you don't catch it, the batter gets first base and all runners advance one."

10-05-2012, 07:58 PM	#1
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Stay classy Atlanta Bad calls are part of the game. Throwing stuff on the field is not. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	That was a horrendously bad call. The ball landed in the mid outfield. There was an earlier bad call too to give David Ross time after Lohse had began his windup and gave him a free swing to hit a two run HR. But yeah, throwing stuff on the field is bad. They need to get this under control. Then again, if this happened in Brazil or Scotland someone would have died by now Last edited by rudel.dietrich; 10-05-2012 at 08:06 PM.

10-05-2012, 08:08 PM	#7
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	I just looked up the rule and there actually is a fair bit of interpertation given to the umpire to judge 'ordinary effort' But I would imagine ordinary effort would not be a ball hit so deep that the left fielder calls off the shortstop. Last edited by rudel.dietrich; 10-05-2012 at 08:10 PM.

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jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	They cannot change the call because it cannot be overturned. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

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jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	No doubt in my mind Uggla ks __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-05-2012, 07:59 PM	#2
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	So was the call correct? Where's LGO?

10-05-2012, 08:01 PM	#3
LeiterFanatic All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,358	Bad move in this one and done playoff to make a bush call like that. Way to go

10-05-2012, 08:07 PM	#6
LeiterFanatic All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,358	Worse than the botched call itself is the potential to have the Braves season hinge on it.

10-05-2012, 08:33 PM	#13
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Way to go Chipper...apparently this ain't over yet. Come on Cards!

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	How time flies, Chipper started in the majors about the same time I really got into baseball glad he got on base with his last at bat, also glad the Cardinals advance (Matheny my favourite player ever). __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

10-05-2012, 08:53 PM	#20
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,424	According to the TV commentator, once the infield fly rule is called the runners are supposed to tag up and advance at their own risk. But clearly, the guy on 2nd base did NOT tag up. He was between bases when the IFR was called. So, St. Louis could've ended the inning right there by throwing over to 3rd once play resumed. The infield fly rule is backwards. It should be "if you don't catch it, the batter gets first base and all runners advance one."