DL and Arbitration

Rtpalmer · 10-07-2009, 02:58 PM

I have a player on my roster that is eligible for Arbitration this year but just got a long term injury. This player will go on my 60 DL. My question is since he is on the DL until the end of the season and past the Arbitration date. What happens in Arbitration? Does he still get Arbitration or league Minimum?

Thanks in advanced.

molarmite · 10-07-2009, 06:57 PM

Arbitration is decided by service time. You cannot gain service time by being on the DL. Therefore, if he wasn't eligible before he went on the DL and he's out for the rest of the year then he won't be eligible at the end.

Le Grande Orange · 10-07-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

Arbitration is decided by service time. You cannot gain service time by being on the DL.

Hmmm, that's not how it works in the real world. Time spent on the Major League DL counts as Major League service time in MLB.

RchW · 10-08-2009, 12:12 AM

And in OOTP.

molarmite · 10-08-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Hmmm, that's not how it works in the real world. Time spent on the Major League DL counts as Major League service time in MLB.

Really? I've been under the assumption that it doesn't since I thought teams would keep players on the DL so they couldn't get service time and have one more year of arbitration like the Twins did with Glen Perkins, maybe they demoted him but I thought he was on the DL, my mistake.

endgame · 10-08-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

Really? I've been under the assumption that it doesn't since I thought teams would keep players on the DL so they couldn't get service time and have one more year of arbitration like the Twins did with Glen Perkins, maybe they demoted him but I thought he was on the DL, my mistake.

My recollection during our first discussions about this was that the 60-day DL did not accrue time even in RL, but I could be mistaken.

rutri01 · 10-08-2009, 09:19 AM

From manual:

Major League Service Time

A player accumulates one day of major league service time for each day he is:

On the active roster of a major league team
On the 15-day disabled list

I'm assuming 15 day DL includes all DLs

endgame · 10-08-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rutri01

From manual:

Major League Service Time

A player accumulates one day of major league service time for each day he is:

On the active roster of a major league team
On the 15-day disabled list

I'm assuming 15 day DL includes all DLs

We need to double check this, both in-game and in RL. If the manual was intended to convey "the disabled list", I don't think it would have made a distinction by listed only the 15-day. I'd like to say I'm certain, but there's been too many things going to recall all the details. Suffice to say, I think there was a discussion that resulted in the 60-day not accuring time, at least in the game. It's easy enough to check. If I don't get to it shortly, either someone else will or I will late this evening when I return home. It'd be important to model RL, if possible.

Edit: Just checked the application of the rule in-game and a player on the 60-day IS accuring service time.

Edit2: from http://www.purplerow.com/2009/2/26/7...ions-part-four

Major League Service Time

Definition
As the title would suggest, ML service time is the amount of time that a player has spent on the active 25-man roster (not from the date he was given a major league contract), the 15 or 60 day DL, or while serving in the military or under suspension.

So, in summary, it appears LGO is correct, rutri is right in his manual interpretation, and the game is handling it in the appropriate manner as goes service time.

Rtpalmer · 10-09-2009, 01:05 PM

Thank you for your responses!!!

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Rtpalmer Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2	DL and Arbitration I have a player on my roster that is eligible for Arbitration this year but just got a long term injury. This player will go on my 60 DL. My question is since he is on the DL until the end of the season and past the Arbitration date. What happens in Arbitration? Does he still get Arbitration or league Minimum? Thanks in advanced. Last edited by Rtpalmer; 10-09-2009 at 01:06 PM.

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