Computer Stealing 2nd, 3rd and Home down 14-2

[jbergey22]

I am playing a historical league and am currently in the 1986 season. I took over the Twins after simming from 1920-1985. I got off to a very slow start(1-8) in which my team batting average started out the season .188(some of it due to injuries, mostly just poor performance). Anyway I had a breakout game in which I was up 14-2 in the 6th inning. The more unusual part in the game was when Mookie Wilson leads off the 6th inning for the Detroit Tigers(computer controlled) with a walk and promptly steals 2nd, 3rd and HOME. I guess I am just confused as to #1 why the computer would be taking chances like this when they need to keep baserunners to attempt to comeback #2 why they even get credit for a SB when I could care less about that runner(IRL they dont get credit for SBs in blowouts if they arent being held.

Just another AI issue that should eventually be looked at like Intentional Walks.

[tysok]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I am playing a historical league and am currently in the 1986 season. I took over the Twins after simming from 1920-1985. I got off to a very slow start(1-8) in which my team batting average started out the season .188(some of it due to injuries, mostly just poor performance). Anyway I had a breakout game in which I was up 14-2 in the 6th inning. The more unusual part in the game was when Mookie Wilson leads off the 6th inning for the Detroit Tigers(computer controlled) with a walk and promptly steals 2nd, 3rd and HOME. I guess I am just confused as to #1 why the computer would be taking chances like this when they need to keep baserunners to attempt to comeback #2 why they even get credit for a SB when I could care less about that runner(IRL they dont get credit for SBs in blowouts if they arent being held.

Just another AI issue that should eventually be looked at like Intentional Walks.

For #2, at least currently, there isn't any defensive indifference. IRL if the catcher does make a throw, or there is any attempt to catch the runner, he would get a SB even if he wasn't being held on by the first baseman... in OOTP there is always a throw, or an attempt at a throw (catcher can't get a handle or a rare occasion that no one covered the bag so the catcher didn't throw).

As for #1, if you're down 14-2 why not throw caution to the wind and see if you can get on sportscenter somehow.

[Questdog]

Defensive indifference is usually relegated to 9th inning steals when a team is behind....

[bababui]

It is annoying when the AI is up by 10 runs and it steals bases. Wouldnt happen in real life. Time to reintroduce the 'throw at the batter' feature from 6.14 if I remember correctly.

[Pirate Fan]

I was at a game many years ago and the Indians were leading KC something like 11-0 late in the game. KC got a guy on third who proceeded to steal home for their only run. It is not like it never happens IRL.

Your right though; the AI doesn't appear to adjust strategy for game score much if at all. I had understood there were some improvements in AI play for X, but perhaps those were limited to roster management.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by Pirate Fan

I was at a game many years ago and the Indians were leading KC something like 11-0 late in the game. KC got a guy on third who proceeded to steal home for their only run. It is not like it never happens IRL.

Your right though; the AI doesn't appear to adjust strategy for game score much if at all. I had understood there were some improvements in AI play for X, but perhaps those were limited to roster management.

Its fine to steal home if you are behind 11-0 to break up a shut out. Its another thing to steal when you are ahead 11-0.

[Pirate Fan]

Originally Posted by bababui

Its fine to steal home if you are behind 11-0 to break up a shut out. Its another thing to steal when you are ahead 11-0.

In the example that the original poster gave the AI was down 14-2. Also, the AI steals when it is way ahead too. I don't think the score matters.

[Afino]

I've noticed this myself, although I've never had an attempted steal of home against me in OOTPX.

[Left-handed Badger]

Well, if I am down by 5-6 runs I will steal. But, that is generally because I build speed teams. And my philosophy is to go down fighting if I am going to go down. . But, 12 runs is a bit much, at that point I am probably given my 25th man some playing time.

[Left-handed Badger]

Originally Posted by bababui

It is annoying when the AI is up by 10 runs and it steals bases. Wouldnt happen in real life. Time to reintroduce the 'throw at the batter' feature from 6.14 if I remember correctly.

I do remember the Red Sox a few OOTP's ago stole on me when ahead 11-1 in the bottom of the 7th. Justice was served a week later when I was at home. Ahead 9-0 in the bottom of the 8th, I got my top basestealer on. Stole without a 2nd thought. Later in the inning now ahead 11-0 I got my power hitting RF on first by walk. I put my young CF in to pinch run (who I was using temporarily as a PR, late inning def. replacement, and occasional starter against lower rotation opposition). Actually I had meant to put him in earlier, but I just forgot. Anyway, stole 2nd once again. (I should mention these games came just after 2 Pedro Martinez starts, where he pitched a no-hitter, followed by a 1-hitter)

Note: You can understand that after being no-hit by Martinez, and then being stole on the next day down by 10. There was no real love lost between me and the Red Sox in that dynasty.