Feeder Leagues

Honorable_Pawn · 08-12-2008, 10:18 AM

I have a question that I was hoping someone could answer for me:

Assumptions:

I play a fictional MLB set-up with full minors and feeder leagues. My feeder leagues are 96 NCAA teams and 24 high School Teams.

My HS feeder leagues have a 40-man roster age range 13-18. Let’s say 5 seniors graduate. Are the 5 created replacement players all going to be 13 years old or will they be created using the age min/max on the league setting menu?

If they are created based upon the min/max settings then I should use 13 (min) and 18 (max) for the first year then 13 for both min & max for all subsequent years if I want an even stream each year?

The reason I ask is because it seems that too many seniors would be graduating each year. Not only would 17-year olds be turning 18 but there will be a few additional 18-year olds that are created that will be graduating in excess of the current senior class. This would cause some players to only have one year of statistical history for the draft.

By forcing replacement players to be 13 (or 14) I can limit the number of eligible players for the first year players draft and get a full statistical history. Also, I choose a 6 year range to limit the amount as well. I noticed that there is too much talent in the feeder leagues and have read some of the threads here regarding this matter. To compensate for this problem I reduced the PCM by 50% across the board. Has any one tried reducing the PCM in order to reduce young players from dominating the leagues?

BTW I use OOTP2007

Thanks.

eriqjaffe · 08-12-2008, 10:20 AM

I can't answer your question, but I strongly recommend you don't write your posts in Word and then copy and paste them.

CecilCooper · 08-12-2008, 11:28 AM

It is my understanding that players are created based on the min/max. So yes created players could be 17 if you leave that unchanged past the initial creation of teams.

orwell · 08-12-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

I can't answer your question, but I strongly recommend you don't write your posts in Word and then copy and paste them.

Why not? Variety (more specifically, font varieties) be the spice of life.

Or, is there a technical reason I'm missing?

orwell · 08-12-2008, 01:05 PM

This is probably a really stupid question, but how do you increase the number of total teams within a high school or college feeder league?

You can do this after it's created, correct?

eriqjaffe · 08-12-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orwell

Why not? Variety (more specifically, font varieties) be the spice of life.

Or, is there a technical reason I'm missing?

He's gone back and fixed it now, but Word drops in a ton of formatting characters that wind up displaying as

's all over the post.

Honorable_Pawn · 08-12-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CecilCooper

It is my understanding that players are created based on the min/max. So yes created players could be 17 if you leave that unchanged past the initial creation of teams.

Thanks for the reply.

Not sure if I understand what you are saying. Ultimately, what I am trying to figure out is if I lower the PCM's at the Major League level will this reduce the talent of the feeder leagues?

I have read a few threads about this but it seems that the consensus is that nobody knows.

Does anybody know?

orwell · 08-12-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orwell

This is probably a really stupid question, but how do you increase the number of total teams within a high school or college feeder league?

You can do this after it's created, correct?

OOTP Baseball Manual - Structure Page

The League Structure Set Up section defines the number of subleagues in the selected league. A league can have one or two subleagues. Subleagues are commonly used in larger leagues. Subleagues also factor into playoffs; the winner of one subleague frequently faces the winner of the other for the league championship.

Warning! You cannot change the number of subleagues in a league after the game has been started. Also, you cannot change the number of subleagues in a standard league.

Honorable_Pawn · 08-12-2008, 02:57 PM

AFAIK, you can during the offseason you just have to remember to generate a new schedule during the offseason.

CecilCooper · 08-12-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orwell

OOTP Baseball Manual - Structure Page

The League Structure Set Up section defines the number of subleagues in the selected league. A league can have one or two subleagues. Subleagues are commonly used in larger leagues. Subleagues also factor into playoffs; the winner of one subleague frequently faces the winner of the other for the league championship.

Warning! You cannot change the number of subleagues in a league after the game has been started. Also, you cannot change the number of subleagues in a standard league.

Not sure why this was quoted. Adding a subleague is not adding a team.

As far as I know there is no issue with adding teams, although I have asked in another thread the best way to go about it. I am guessing there are issues with creating the players that go onto the new team (if you change your player creation min and max age after year 1 so newly created players that replace draftees are all 1 age, I am guessing that also makes the entire new team 1 age unless you monkey with the ages again).

So I will ask my other question in here again, what is the best way to expand a feeder league? Expand after the draftee replacements have been created?

CecilCooper · 08-12-2008, 04:24 PM

"If they are created based upon the min/max settings then I should use 13 (min) and 18 (max) for the first year then 13 for both min & max for all subsequent years if I want an even stream each year?"

I was trying to help with that question...

orwell · 08-12-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

AFAIK, you can during the offseason you just have to remember to generate a new schedule during the offseason.

I didn't mean to hijack this thread, but how did you get 96 college teams? I am trying to get more teams than the "default" number in my high school and college feeders, but can't figure it out (I added the feeder leagues and the game populated with x number of teams in each league and I can't see how to add more teams after the fact - should I just add additional high school and college feeder leagues until I have the desired total number of teams?)

CecilCooper · 08-13-2008, 10:13 AM

If you mean as part of your initial setup... see below.

When you set up your league... click on add feeder league.
Then in the lower left of the page (where it shows your entire universe... Major League, AAA, AA, college feeder, etc) click on the feeder league so it is the active league that you can now change the options on.

Go to League Structure see link OOTP Baseball Manual - League Settings

It looks just like the link above except where it says Major League Level in the screenshot it should say your feeder league in game.

Change the # of teams in the dropdowns.

If it's after a season or two... I think you have to wait until the offseason.

Honorable_Pawn · 08-14-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orwell

I didn't mean to hijack this thread, but how did you get 96 college teams? I am trying to get more teams than the "default" number in my high school and college feeders, but can't figure it out (I added the feeder leagues and the game populated with x number of teams in each league and I can't see how to add more teams after the fact - should I just add additional high school and college feeder leagues until I have the desired total number of teams?)

Go to League settings. Its the first tab. You will see a button that says edit league structure. Remember to do this only during the preseason. Also, remember to fill your rosters and to generate a schedule.

NomarHits400 · 08-14-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Thanks for the reply.

Not sure if I understand what you are saying. Ultimately, what I am trying to figure out is if I lower the PCM's at the Major League level will this reduce the talent of the feeder leagues?

I have read a few threads about this but it seems that the consensus is that nobody knows.

Does anybody know?

Yes, it absolutely will reduce the talent level in your feeder leagues.

Honorable_Pawn · 05-21-2009, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NomarHits400

Yes, it absolutely will reduce the talent level in your feeder leagues.

So, if this is true I don't see what all the fuss is about concerning talent inflation/deflation. Simply control it with the PCM.

No?

08-12-2008, 10:18 AM	#1
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	Feeder Leagues I have a question that I was hoping someone could answer for me: Assumptions: I play a fictional MLB set-up with full minors and feeder leagues. My feeder leagues are 96 NCAA teams and 24 high School Teams. My HS feeder leagues have a 40-man roster age range 13-18. Let’s say 5 seniors graduate. Are the 5 created replacement players all going to be 13 years old or will they be created using the age min/max on the league setting menu? If they are created based upon the min/max settings then I should use 13 (min) and 18 (max) for the first year then 13 for both min & max for all subsequent years if I want an even stream each year? The reason I ask is because it seems that too many seniors would be graduating each year. Not only would 17-year olds be turning 18 but there will be a few additional 18-year olds that are created that will be graduating in excess of the current senior class. This would cause some players to only have one year of statistical history for the draft. By forcing replacement players to be 13 (or 14) I can limit the number of eligible players for the first year players draft and get a full statistical history. Also, I choose a 6 year range to limit the amount as well. I noticed that there is too much talent in the feeder leagues and have read some of the threads here regarding this matter. To compensate for this problem I reduced the PCM by 50% across the board. Has any one tried reducing the PCM in order to reduce young players from dominating the leagues? BTW I use OOTP2007 Thanks. Last edited by Honorable_Pawn; 08-12-2008 at 10:20 AM.

08-12-2008, 10:20 AM	#2
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,733	I can't answer your question, but I strongly recommend you don't write your posts in Word and then copy and paste them. __________________

08-12-2008, 01:05 PM	#5
orwell Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 472	This is probably a really stupid question, but how do you increase the number of total teams within a high school or college feeder league? You can do this after it's created, correct? __________________ "Who will scout the scouts?"

08-13-2008, 10:13 AM	#13
CecilCooper Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 444	If you mean as part of your initial setup... see below. When you set up your league... click on add feeder league. Then in the lower left of the page (where it shows your entire universe... Major League, AAA, AA, college feeder, etc) click on the feeder league so it is the active league that you can now change the options on. Go to League Structure see link OOTP Baseball Manual - League Settings It looks just like the link above except where it says Major League Level in the screenshot it should say your feeder league in game. Change the # of teams in the dropdowns. If it's after a season or two... I think you have to wait until the offseason. Last edited by CecilCooper; 08-13-2008 at 10:18 AM.

08-12-2008, 11:28 AM	#3
CecilCooper Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 444	It is my understanding that players are created based on the min/max. So yes created players could be 17 if you leave that unchanged past the initial creation of teams.

08-12-2008, 02:57 PM	#9
Honorable_Pawn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,407	AFAIK, you can during the offseason you just have to remember to generate a new schedule during the offseason.

08-12-2008, 04:24 PM	#11
CecilCooper Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 444	"If they are created based upon the min/max settings then I should use 13 (min) and 18 (max) for the first year then 13 for both min & max for all subsequent years if I want an even stream each year?" I was trying to help with that question...