Use of new pitch ratings and Lahman database

Pete Grassi · 05-31-2009, 10:27 PM

I have done some searching but really cannot find an answer to this question. With the change in pitching to use ratings for actual pitches, how will Lahmans database work with this new process?

jbergey22 · 05-31-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Grassi

I have done some searching but really cannot find an answer to this question. With the change in pitching to use ratings for actual pitches, how will Lahmans database work with this new process?

I think this is the million dollar question!

Spritze · 05-31-2009, 11:48 PM

The Lahman Master.csv does not include pitching repertoires as the built in OOTP master.csv does so one might assume pitch repertoires are generated either a)semi-randomly or b)the ones included in the OOTP master.csv are used.

jbergey22 · 05-31-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

The Lahman Master.csv does not include pitching repertoires as the built in OOTP master.csv does so one might assume pitch repertoires are generated either a)semi-randomly or b)the ones included in the OOTP master.csv are used.

If the pitches were generated from the stats that were imported it could probably do a decent enough job getting most pitchers repertoires.

ike121212 · 06-01-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

If the pitches were generated from the stats that were imported it could probably do a decent enough job getting most pitchers repertoires.

I'm betting that is what they do.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-01-2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ike121212

I'm betting that is what they do.

So do I

Malleus Dei · 06-01-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

So do I

I vote with the funny-looking German guy.

NHSOXFAN · 06-01-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

I vote with the funny-looking German guy.

Yeah but he is such a know-it-all

Ruthian23 · 06-01-2009, 01:14 PM

Here's another related question: If you have recalc on in historical play will pitch types potentially change as a guy's ability or role changes? For instance, will John Smoltz "forget" how to throw a pitch or two if he becomes a reliever or might another pitcher all the sudden throw a good change instead of a decent slider if he gets better or will the pitches remain rather consistent from year to year? If they remain consistent, I'm assuming that guys who switch from RP to SP due to their pitching like 15 innings in their rookie year and then becoming consistent starters will be an exception and will get the right number of pitches when they become SP in real life? It wouldn't make that much sense for a guy who started in 19 of his 20 MLB seasons (with the 1st being a September call-up) to have to learn 2 pitches before he becomes an effective starter, which could take a while.

damientheomen3 · 06-01-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

I vote with the funny-looking German guy.

i like his hair...

Pete Grassi · 06-02-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

So do I

Thanks Marcus, the answer I was looking for.

StyxNCa · 06-03-2009, 04:06 PM

Glad you understood the answer. What was it? I don't even understand the post that Markus responded to.

05-31-2009, 10:27 PM	#1
Pete Grassi Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 386	Use of new pitch ratings and Lahman database I have done some searching but really cannot find an answer to this question. With the change in pitching to use ratings for actual pitches, how will Lahmans database work with this new process?

06-01-2009, 01:14 PM	#9
Ruthian23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 740	Here's another related question: If you have recalc on in historical play will pitch types potentially change as a guy's ability or role changes? For instance, will John Smoltz "forget" how to throw a pitch or two if he becomes a reliever or might another pitcher all the sudden throw a good change instead of a decent slider if he gets better or will the pitches remain rather consistent from year to year? If they remain consistent, I'm assuming that guys who switch from RP to SP due to their pitching like 15 innings in their rookie year and then becoming consistent starters will be an exception and will get the right number of pitches when they become SP in real life? It wouldn't make that much sense for a guy who started in 19 of his 20 MLB seasons (with the 1st being a September call-up) to have to learn 2 pitches before he becomes an effective starter, which could take a while. Last edited by Ruthian23; 06-01-2009 at 01:15 PM.

05-31-2009, 11:48 PM	#3
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	The Lahman Master.csv does not include pitching repertoires as the built in OOTP master.csv does so one might assume pitch repertoires are generated either a)semi-randomly or b)the ones included in the OOTP master.csv are used.

06-03-2009, 04:06 PM	#12
StyxNCa Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 3,136	Glad you understood the answer. What was it? I don't even understand the post that Markus responded to.