Fictional Solo League

myasu · 06-21-2008, 05:04 PM

After the release, I have been test-simming all sorts of different leagues (10 years ABA QS, 30 years historical, 1 year 2008MLB...), while collecting as much information from this board.

Now I would like to start my "usual" fictional solo league, with MLB setup, 3 levels of minors.

Do you "fictional solo players" here see any problems/issues with your own such leagues created with OOTP9?

I know there have been an issue with the imported leagues (that will be fixed in a first patch

), but has anybody seen any other problems???

I am really happy with the improved sim speed with Mac, and love all the new features. I see L/R splits issue has been solved, and feel like I could finally try building a long history here!

OldFatGuy · 06-21-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by myasu

After the release, I have been test-simming all sorts of different leagues (10 years ABA QS, 30 years historical, 1 year 2008MLB...), while collecting as much information from this board.

Now I would like to start my "usual" fictional solo league, with MLB setup, 3 levels of minors.

Do you "fictional solo players" here see any problems/issues with your own such leagues created with OOTP9?

I know there have been an issue with the imported leagues (that will be fixed in a first patch

), but has anybody seen any other problems???

I am really happy with the improved sim speed with Mac, and love all the new features. I see L/R splits issue has been solved, and feel like I could finally try building a long history here!

Quick, somebody PM 1998 Yankees.

I hadn't simmed out like that yet. Very good to know, and thanks for sharing that.

Errr, but to answer your question, no issues to point out yet, though I'm still unsold on the new pitcher endurance model.

myasu · 06-22-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Quick, somebody PM 1998 Yankees.

I hadn't simmed out like that yet. Very good to know, and thanks for sharing that.

Errr, but to answer your question, no issues to point out yet, though I'm still unsold on the new pitcher endurance model.

I am pretty sure the L/R splits after 20~30 years-sim is one of the first things 1998 Yankees tested after the release.

OldFatGuy · 06-22-2008, 01:56 AM

Sorry, you're probably right. I thought I read somewhere that he wasn't even trying 9 yet, but could be my imagination. Anyways, I would like to thank you, because I haven't simmed out and it was good to hear your testimony that it was fixed.

myasu · 06-22-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Sorry, you're probably right. I thought I read somewhere that he wasn't even trying 9 yet, but could be my imagination. Anyways, I would like to thank you, because I haven't simmed out and it was good to hear your testimony that it was fixed.

OldFatGuy,

Could you tell me anything about the pitcher endurance model issue you are talking about? Link to the related threads or anything?
I'd like to know about it.

OldFatGuy · 06-22-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by myasu

OldFatGuy,

Could you tell me anything about the pitcher endurance model issue you are talking about? Link to the related threads or anything?
I'd like to know about it.

I'm not sure of which threads you speak of, so I won't go there, but I play out all of my games, one pitch mode, the same as in OOTP 8. And in OTP 8, with the same league (I imported it to 9), with the league strategy settings for pitcher endurance at Normal (which I prefer to modern day low or very low), it just seems the pitchers aren't recovering like they did.

An example. I had a starter throw 118 pitches on Monday, yet on Saturday he was only 84% (or something close to that, it wasn't 100%). In OOTP8, I don't recall seeing that happen. Also, it seems, though I haven't yet played enough to quantify it, that my relievers don't recover quite the same.

I realize I can adjust the endurance levels and stuff, its just I was actually quite happy with pitcher endurance and recovery in 8. It made sense to me, and I was used to it. Perhaps its just a matter of me getting used to 9 is all. I just don't know yet.

Are you finding any differences?? Just curious since you asked me.

EDIT: Well, I was able to find this thread:http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-pitchers.html

I will look for others if you're interested.

EDIT2: I think this thread also talks about the issue. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...y-54-54-a.html Still looking.

myasu · 06-22-2008, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

I'm not sure of which threads you speak of, so I won't go there, but I play out all of my games, one pitch mode, the same as in OOTP 8. And in OTP 8, with the same league (I imported it to 9), with the league strategy settings for pitcher endurance at Normal (which I prefer to modern day low or very low), it just seems the pitchers aren't recovering like they did.

An example. I had a starter throw 118 pitches on Monday, yet on Saturday he was only 84% (or something close to that, it wasn't 100%). In OOTP8, I don't recall seeing that happen. Also, it seems, though I haven't yet played enough to quantify it, that my relievers don't recover quite the same.

I realize I can adjust the endurance levels and stuff, its just I was actually quite happy with pitcher endurance and recovery in 8. It made sense to me, and I was used to it. Perhaps its just a matter of me getting used to 9 is all. I just don't know yet.

Are you finding any differences?? Just curious since you asked me.

EDIT: Well, I was able to find this thread:http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...-pitchers.html

I will look for others if you're interested.

EDIT2: I think this thread also talks about the issue. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...y-54-54-a.html Still looking.

Thanks a lot OldFatGuy,

I guess there are issues with the imported leagues from the previous version.
That is part of the reasons why I want to create the fictional league from scratch with OOTP9.
I hope many of the issues will be solved in a quick patch due this weekend!

OldFatGuy · 06-22-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by myasu

Thanks a lot OldFatGuy,

I guess there are issues with the imported leagues from the previous version.
That is part of the reasons why I want to create the fictional league from scratch with OOTP9.
I hope many of the issues will be solved in a quick patch due this weekend!

Well, the thing is I'm still not sure there are issues. I mean, I'm just giving my first week of release feeling here; I might be totally wrong. But in my most important league I imported, I noticed a difference. I certainly hope NOBODY takes my opinions too seriously. I think we should here from others on this.

1998 Yankees · 06-22-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Quick, somebody PM 1998 Yankees.

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Originally Posted by myasu

I am pretty sure the L/R splits after 20~30 years-sim is one of the first things 1998 Yankees tested after the release.

Thanks for thinking of me, guys. Yes, I will be getting into OOTP 9 now, after some hesitation.

And you're darned tootin' that the first thing I tested with a 20-year sim are lefty-righty splits! My impression is that lefty-righty splits in a brand new game are fine, but of course everybody knows now about old OOTP 8 leagues being in danger when imported.

Which brings up the pet peeves of a couple of months ago, and occasioned this comment from me today:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...23-post60.html

I had to play a league in that condition for months after the final OOTP 2007/8 patch, even though the problem was identified before it was released. I understood that there could be no more patches, that production had to move on to the next version.

What I could not take was the issue being ignored (see the Tech Support treatment that it received here, for example) until enough members finally voiced their displeasure, a situation made worse by the virtual absence of "the big three" from these boards for months. Only during the ramp up to OOTP 9 was it finally addressed by one of them.

OK, I celebrated with overly large dancing bananas when Markus announced that the problem is fixed in OOTP 9. Then what? No sooner is the game released than we are told that the issue is still there and needs a patch. That I had to wait to import my league if I knew what's good for me.

I think it was on Game Release Day +1 that I came across the first mention of that on these boards. That was when I decided to cool it for a while and let the OOTP 9 installation file sit on my desktop for the time being.

I usually don't get annoyed here, preferring to take things easy and looking on the bright side of OOTP, which is substantial. But this has been one big pain in the neck to me and has made me sound out of character. Let's get past this damned issue already.

myasu · 06-22-2008, 03:50 PM

1998 Yankees,

After all you have been doing for the community (like your constant replies at the forum), I think you deserve to be listened when you say something here.

I totally agree with you that the L/R splits issue with the last version was one big scratch, and it surely made me think twice before purchasing OOTP9.

I gave up importing my old league to OOTP9 as soon as I saw threads you mentioned above, and started test-simming the NEW fictional league created with OOTP9.

Anyways, I am glad you are feeling like starting to try out the new game, and hopefully you will be as active as you have always been on this "town".

1998 Yankees · 06-22-2008, 07:52 PM

Thanks, myasu. No, this is no "ghost town" like the 2007/8 forum is now, as you read over there!

For the record, concerning my trying to answer some questions here, what I do, I do for personal reasons. Specifically, these are the enjoyment of helping people and the satisfaction of contributing to the success of a product I have truly admired. I expect no special considerations from anyone which is good because I doubt that I would get any from this crowd.

What I would expect, however, is that when a number of people bring up a problem of this magnitude (and I mean THIS magnitude, not the display size of logos, for example), that there would be someone in authority to notice and comment upon it.

As it was, it festered for weeks and months and even after Markus decided to return to the forums he chose to ignore it until it became apparent that it was not going away. That is what bothered me the most.

Now, this thread will descend to the bottom of the page and fall away, unnoticed by the people that I am talking about. That's fine; my opinion is not important. I have had my say and they are finally fixing the problem.

This has put a dent in my OOTP armor and has reminded me that this is a business/customer relationship. I'm fine with that too. I'll continue to answer questions for them in their absences as long as they continue to put out a quality product, including some quality customer service.*

*OK, somebody can close that logged issue from October now, TT3888, I believe.

06-21-2008, 05:04 PM	#1
myasu All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,491	Fictional Solo League After the release, I have been test-simming all sorts of different leagues (10 years ABA QS, 30 years historical, 1 year 2008MLB...), while collecting as much information from this board. Now I would like to start my "usual" fictional solo league, with MLB setup, 3 levels of minors. Do you "fictional solo players" here see any problems/issues with your own such leagues created with OOTP9? I know there have been an issue with the imported leagues (that will be fixed in a first patch ), but has anybody seen any other problems??? I am really happy with the improved sim speed with Mac, and love all the new features. I see L/R splits issue has been solved, and feel like I could finally try building a long history here! __________________ myasu Bill Spaceman Lee- "The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said I believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the sixties I tested everything."

06-22-2008, 03:50 PM	#10
myasu All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,491	1998 Yankees, After all you have been doing for the community (like your constant replies at the forum), I think you deserve to be listened when you say something here. I totally agree with you that the L/R splits issue with the last version was one big scratch, and it surely made me think twice before purchasing OOTP9. I gave up importing my old league to OOTP9 as soon as I saw threads you mentioned above, and started test-simming the NEW fictional league created with OOTP9. Anyways, I am glad you are feeling like starting to try out the new game, and hopefully you will be as active as you have always been on this "town". __________________ myasu Bill Spaceman Lee- "The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said I believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the sixties I tested everything."

06-22-2008, 01:56 AM	#4
OldFatGuy All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern Va., Loudoun County Posts: 1,895	Sorry, you're probably right. I thought I read somewhere that he wasn't even trying 9 yet, but could be my imagination. Anyways, I would like to thank you, because I haven't simmed out and it was good to hear your testimony that it was fixed.

06-22-2008, 07:52 PM	#11
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	Thanks, myasu. No, this is no "ghost town" like the 2007/8 forum is now, as you read over there! For the record, concerning my trying to answer some questions here, what I do, I do for personal reasons. Specifically, these are the enjoyment of helping people and the satisfaction of contributing to the success of a product I have truly admired. I expect no special considerations from anyone which is good because I doubt that I would get any from this crowd. What I would expect, however, is that when a number of people bring up a problem of this magnitude (and I mean THIS magnitude, not the display size of logos, for example), that there would be someone in authority to notice and comment upon it. As it was, it festered for weeks and months and even after Markus decided to return to the forums he chose to ignore it until it became apparent that it was not going away. That is what bothered me the most. Now, this thread will descend to the bottom of the page and fall away, unnoticed by the people that I am talking about. That's fine; my opinion is not important. I have had my say and they are finally fixing the problem. This has put a dent in my OOTP armor and has reminded me that this is a business/customer relationship. I'm fine with that too. I'll continue to answer questions for them in their absences as long as they continue to put out a quality product, including some quality customer service.* *OK, somebody can close that logged issue from October now, TT3888, I believe.