Is a knock-out competition possible?

Tyke · 05-21-2008, 05:03 AM

I've done a quick search, but came up empty, so I wondered if anyone could suggest how this might work. I want to have a 12 team major league and a 16 team AAA league - with no club affiliations. In addition I would like to run a knock-out competition throughout the season [much like the F.A. Cup, for you Football Manager aficionados] where all the names are put in a hat & pairs drawn at random. They play one game, winner stays in for the next round, loser goes home. Repeat the process until only two teams are left and they play a Grand Final. I've tried setting it up before, using an "empty" league, with the idea of importing teams manually for each round, then returning them to their original leagues, but I think you have to create a schedule before the start of the pre-season and, as pairings are only decided after each round of games, that is not possible. Any suggestions - or directions to a previous discussion of this - will be gratefully received.

Kelric · 05-21-2008, 11:08 AM

I don't see how you can possibly create a knock-out system in OOTP. Baseball schedules just weren't made to be played that way.

Tony M · 05-21-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

I don't see how you can possibly create a knock-out system in OOTP.

Isn't that the way playoffs work now?

It's not really possible in OOTP directly but if Markus gets this flexible playoff thing he mentioned working for 9 then it should be.

Tyke · 05-21-2008, 01:04 PM

OK guys, thanks for your comments. I feared it wouldn't be possible, but it's certainly not a deal-breaker for me, there's way too much other good stuff for that to put me off - which is why I pre-ordered.

zekester91 · 05-21-2008, 01:15 PM

might it be posible to work out on paper, and then just have each game be a exhibition game/series, although I have heard seting up exhibition games has some challanges, and there won't be offical game stats, or records.

spark240 · 05-21-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zekester91

just have each game be a exhibition game/series, although I have heard seting up exhibition games has some challanges, and there won't be offical game stats

If they're scheduled exhibitions, the stats should be there.

Kelric · 05-21-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by redsoxford

Isn't that the way playoffs work now?

Hyuck hyuck.

Tyke · 05-30-2008, 02:45 PM

With the new flexible playoff options described in Markus's "OOTP9 Update!" thread [sorry but I don't know how to post a link to that], would it be possible to decree that all 12 teams in a 12 team league will qualify for the playoffs? If so, I envisage naming the leader at the end of the regular season as "Champion", then running the playoffs as a knockout competition made up of one-game series, starting with 1 v 12, 2 v 11, 3 v 10, etc. I know it's not perfect but it might get me part way towards my goal - and I assume the playoff stats will be kept separate from the regular season?

Le Grande Orange · 05-30-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyke

With the new flexible playoff options described in Markus's "OOTP9 Update!" thread [sorry but I don't know how to post a link to that], would it be possible to decree that all 12 teams in a 12 team league will qualify for the playoffs?

Well, not 12 teams, because the number of teams making the playoffs has to be a power of 2, that is, either 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc., teams.

But if you wanted to have all 16 teams of a 16-team league make the playoffs, you should be able to do that if you want.

Tyke · 05-30-2008, 04:07 PM

Thanks, LGO, I believe I can work with that! Whilst you're around, I guess you'd be the ideal guy to tell me where I would find the league schedule & whether I can actually print out a copy of it?

05-21-2008, 05:03 AM	#1
Tyke All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire, U.K. Posts: 1,142	Is a knock-out competition possible? I've done a quick search, but came up empty, so I wondered if anyone could suggest how this might work. I want to have a 12 team major league and a 16 team AAA league - with no club affiliations. In addition I would like to run a knock-out competition throughout the season [much like the F.A. Cup, for you Football Manager aficionados] where all the names are put in a hat & pairs drawn at random. They play one game, winner stays in for the next round, loser goes home. Repeat the process until only two teams are left and they play a Grand Final. I've tried setting it up before, using an "empty" league, with the idea of importing teams manually for each round, then returning them to their original leagues, but I think you have to create a schedule before the start of the pre-season and, as pairings are only decided after each round of games, that is not possible. Any suggestions - or directions to a previous discussion of this - will be gratefully received.

05-21-2008, 01:15 PM	#5
zekester91 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,122	might it be posible to work out on paper, and then just have each game be a exhibition game/series, although I have heard seting up exhibition games has some challanges, and there won't be offical game stats, or records. __________________ Bobby Bowden must have a hell of a recruiting pitch, "Son if you come on down to Tallahasee, you just might be able to watch me die during practice!" The road was closed while the Hartford Police Department's bomb squad came and blew up the chicken.

05-21-2008, 11:08 AM	#2
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I don't see how you can possibly create a knock-out system in OOTP. Baseball schedules just weren't made to be played that way.

05-21-2008, 01:04 PM	#4
Tyke All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire, U.K. Posts: 1,142	OK guys, thanks for your comments. I feared it wouldn't be possible, but it's certainly not a deal-breaker for me, there's way too much other good stuff for that to put me off - which is why I pre-ordered.

05-30-2008, 02:45 PM	#8
Tyke All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire, U.K. Posts: 1,142	With the new flexible playoff options described in Markus's "OOTP9 Update!" thread [sorry but I don't know how to post a link to that], would it be possible to decree that all 12 teams in a 12 team league will qualify for the playoffs? If so, I envisage naming the leader at the end of the regular season as "Champion", then running the playoffs as a knockout competition made up of one-game series, starting with 1 v 12, 2 v 11, 3 v 10, etc. I know it's not perfect but it might get me part way towards my goal - and I assume the playoff stats will be kept separate from the regular season?

05-30-2008, 04:07 PM	#10
Tyke All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Cleckheaton, West Yorkshire, U.K. Posts: 1,142	Thanks, LGO, I believe I can work with that! Whilst you're around, I guess you'd be the ideal guy to tell me where I would find the league schedule & whether I can actually print out a copy of it?