New York Giants 1901 and on

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 02:57 AM

I have always had a huge interest in the New York Giants and San Francisco Giants history so in this dynasty I will trace back to the early years of the New York Giants and chronicle my attempt to run a baseball team in the early 1900`s.

Starting Lineup
1. RF George Van Haltren- A true team leader, He is getting up their in years but at age 35 he can still hit .300 in any given year, expect him to be a giant at least until his contract is up in 1904.

2. 2B Danny Murphy– the 24 year old is a very bright spot in the future of the team he might not hit .280 in his first season but he can contribute and gain experience in the league.

3. SS George Davis- A great great guy to have in the lineup every day he can definitely put up the numbers for us over a long period of time, and being only 30 he still has at least 5 or 6 more season left in his bones.

4. 3B Charlie Hickman- A man who wont necessarily hit for average very much but he can put up team leading power numbers and has the potential to put up league leading power numbers.

5. LF Kip Selbach- He is our best hitter all around, being able to put up high average, BIG power numbers and a good amount of steals he is the heart of our lineup.

6. 1B John Ganzel- He is not a huge guy that we want to have going forward, we will look for possible trades to get him out of town very quick if he begins to struggle, this will be his only chance to hold on to a starting job.

7. RF Curt Bernard- This guy is a developing star and will probably have a HUGE role in the future of the team at 23 he will be seeing his first glimpses of the bigs.

8. C Frank Bowerman- a great catcher to have around if you want a good old fashioned hitting catcher, if he doesn’t perform as he gets older he will likely be shipped out. We have plenty of catchers in the minors.

9. PITCHER

Bench

LF Al Maul- Al is way past the point that makes him useful to a team like the Giants, or any team for that matter, he is VERY close to being gone.

3B Aleck Smith- One half of our infield Smith brothers out of Pennsylvania, look for him to step in if any of our infielders get hurt.2B Heinie Smith- The second half of the aforementioned brothers group, I will likely hold on to Aleck but the brothers might be split up if I don’t see Heinie performing.

LF Jim Jones- He is someone who might put up OK numbers but might put up crappy numbers so we will watch that closely.

C John Warner- If Bowerman gets hurt or isn’t performing up to my standards Warner will likely step into the role.

IF Sammy Strang- Sammy is another part of a great future for this team, we have amazing plans for strang and in the future he could put up MVP caliber numbers

Next up: Pitching Report

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 03:54 AM

Forget This---- Duplicate

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 03:57 AM

STARTING ROTATION
SP Ed Doheny- Ed is a good pitcher who has control issues he is likely going to be traded in the early goings.

SP Roger Denzer- Roger is going to likely be a HUGE part of the team for years to come.

SP Christy Mathewson-The FUTURE OF THIS FRANCHISE.

SP Dummy Taylor- Like Doheny he has control issues and im likely to trade him in the early goings

BULLPEN

Closer-Ike Van Zandt-A Great pitcher who will be our closer for YEARS to come.

Setup-Jake Livingstone-He should help keep many leads throughout the season

Short-Bill Malarkey- He will continue to develop into a good reliever

Next up:Season starts

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 04:26 AM

TRADE

SP ED DOHENY
1B JOHN GONZEL
$1,000,000

TO BALTIMORE ORIOLES FOR

3B JIMMY WILLIAMS

Williams- I had to give up my ace, 1 million dollars and my starting 1st baseman to get him. And I couldent be happier, he is only 24 but he is already a star, He will IMMEDIATELY move to 3B and bat 4th in the order.

Charlie Hickman will move to 1st base and bat 6th

SEASON STARTS NOW

April 1st-Giants lose 5-1

2B Frank Bowerman (1)
3B Jimmy Williams (1)
HR NONE

ROGER DENZER (L) 9.0 10 H 2 BB 0 K 2 HR

April 2nd-Giants lose 6-5

2B John Warner (1) George Van Haltren (1)
3B NONE
HR NONE

CHRISTY MATHEWSON 7.0 8 H 1 BB 0 K 4 ER

Livingstone (L) 0-1

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 04:40 AM

April 3rd-Giants lose 11-7

2B Charlie Hickman (1) George Davis (1)
3B Charlie Hickman (1) George Davis (1)
HR George Van Haltren (1)

DUMMY TAYLOR (L) 0-1 1.2 9 R 2 ER 3 BB 0 K 5 H

April 4th- Giants win 5-4

2B Danny Murph (1)
3B Charlie Hickman (2) Curt Bernard (1)
HR NONE

CHAUNCEY FISHER 7.0 10 H 1 BB 1 K 4 ER

JAKE LIVINGSTONE (W) 1-1

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 01:54 PM

Dummy Taylor is out for 24 days with a stretched knee ligament he will be replaced in the rotation by Chauncey Fisher

April 5th Giants lose 11-5

2B- Cy Morgan (1)
3B NONE
HR NONE

This game really annoyed me as i need to definitely take a look at our struggles when our only extra base hit in the whole game is by the relief pitcher, UGGGGH Giants are now 1-4

April 6th Giants Win 4-2

2B SP Roger Denzer (1) CF George Van Haltren (2)
3B NONE
HR NONE

ROGER DENZER 9.0 7 H 2 BB 1 HR 2 ER

TRADE

AAA SS Joe Bean
3B Aleck Smith
LF Al Maul

for

P Kid Carsey

Carsey will go straight into my struggling bullpen

UP FROM AAA to replace 2 bench players traded...

SS Charlie Babb
2B Ray Nelson

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 02:14 PM

now after 6 games i will need to mess around with my lineup to find whats right

.435 C Frank Bowerman FROM 8th TO 6th
.240 3B Charlie Hickman FROM 6th TO 7th
.240 RF Curt Bernard FROM 7th TO 8th

Giants Lose 13-5

2B Jimmy Williams (1)
3B NONE
HR George Van Haltren (1)

CHRISTY MATHEWSON 2.0 9 H 1 BB 8 ER 0 K

Okay this is starting to frustrate me we are now 2-5 and this is not a good start to the season, I will give this lineup a few more games but if it doesent work dont be surprised if I change it again.

STARTING HERE I WILL POST MOSTLY WEEKLY UPDATES TO MOVE FASTER.

George Van Haltren .333 2 HR 16 RBI
Danny Murphy .290 0 HR 3 RBI
George Davis .207 0 HR 1 HR
Jimmy Williams .156 0 HR 3 RBI
Kip Selbach .269 0 HR 1 RBI
Frank Bowerman .464 0 HR 5 RBI
Charlie Hickman .241 0 HR 0 RBI
Curt Bernard .241 0 HR 5 RBI

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 02:25 PM

April 8th

NEW LINEUP AFTER CHANGES

VAN HALTREN
MURPHY
BOWERMAN
DAVIS
WILLIAMS
SELBACH
HICKMAN
BERNARD
PITCHER

April 16th

The Giants are starting to rebound, up to 7-8 after the lineup change around, our top hitters are Frank Bowerman hitting .424,George Van Haltren batting .359 with 3 HR, AND Curt Bernard who has had a great week now batting .317

INJURY
FRANK BOWERMAN WITH A FOOT STRESS FRACTURE HE WILL BE OUT 10 DAYS

INTO THE LINEUP REPLACING BOWERMAN IS John Warner

C Joe wall is called up to the bigs as Bowerman is injured

dynastyman · 11-30-2007, 05:27 PM

April 24th

The Giants are really starting to hit, they now have a record of 13-9,with a team batting average of .291, the team leaders in batting average are George Van Haltren at .364 followed by George Davis at .348

Frank Bowerman will be ready to return to action in 2 days.

we decided to put recent aquisition Kid Carsey in the 4th spot in the rotation

Starting rotation

Chauncey Fisher 4-0 2.90 ERA
Roger Denzer 2-2 2.25 ERA
Christy Mathewson 3-1 4.74 ERA
Kid Carsey 2-1 3.00 ERA

13-9 0.5 GB

11-30-2007, 02:57 AM	#1
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	New York Giants 1901 and on I have always had a huge interest in the New York Giants and San Francisco Giants history so in this dynasty I will trace back to the early years of the New York Giants and chronicle my attempt to run a baseball team in the early 1900`s. Starting Lineup 1. RF George Van Haltren- A true team leader, He is getting up their in years but at age 35 he can still hit .300 in any given year, expect him to be a giant at least until his contract is up in 1904. 2. 2B Danny Murphy– the 24 year old is a very bright spot in the future of the team he might not hit .280 in his first season but he can contribute and gain experience in the league. 3. SS George Davis- A great great guy to have in the lineup every day he can definitely put up the numbers for us over a long period of time, and being only 30 he still has at least 5 or 6 more season left in his bones. 4. 3B Charlie Hickman- A man who wont necessarily hit for average very much but he can put up team leading power numbers and has the potential to put up league leading power numbers. 5. LF Kip Selbach- He is our best hitter all around, being able to put up high average, BIG power numbers and a good amount of steals he is the heart of our lineup. 6. 1B John Ganzel- He is not a huge guy that we want to have going forward, we will look for possible trades to get him out of town very quick if he begins to struggle, this will be his only chance to hold on to a starting job. 7. RF Curt Bernard- This guy is a developing star and will probably have a HUGE role in the future of the team at 23 he will be seeing his first glimpses of the bigs. 8. C Frank Bowerman- a great catcher to have around if you want a good old fashioned hitting catcher, if he doesn’t perform as he gets older he will likely be shipped out. We have plenty of catchers in the minors. 9. PITCHER Bench LF Al Maul- Al is way past the point that makes him useful to a team like the Giants, or any team for that matter, he is VERY close to being gone. 3B Aleck Smith- One half of our infield Smith brothers out of Pennsylvania, look for him to step in if any of our infielders get hurt.2B Heinie Smith- The second half of the aforementioned brothers group, I will likely hold on to Aleck but the brothers might be split up if I don’t see Heinie performing. LF Jim Jones- He is someone who might put up OK numbers but might put up crappy numbers so we will watch that closely. C John Warner- If Bowerman gets hurt or isn’t performing up to my standards Warner will likely step into the role. IF Sammy Strang- Sammy is another part of a great future for this team, we have amazing plans for strang and in the future he could put up MVP caliber numbers Next up: Pitching Report Last edited by dynastyman; 11-30-2007 at 03:04 AM.

11-30-2007, 03:54 AM	#2
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	Forget This---- Duplicate Last edited by dynastyman; 11-30-2007 at 03:55 AM. Reason: DUPLICATE

11-30-2007, 03:57 AM	#3
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	STARTING ROTATION SP Ed Doheny- Ed is a good pitcher who has control issues he is likely going to be traded in the early goings. SP Roger Denzer- Roger is going to likely be a HUGE part of the team for years to come. SP Christy Mathewson-The FUTURE OF THIS FRANCHISE. SP Dummy Taylor- Like Doheny he has control issues and im likely to trade him in the early goings BULLPEN Closer-Ike Van Zandt-A Great pitcher who will be our closer for YEARS to come. Setup-Jake Livingstone-He should help keep many leads throughout the season Short-Bill Malarkey- He will continue to develop into a good reliever Next up:Season starts

11-30-2007, 04:26 AM	#4
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	TRADE SP ED DOHENY 1B JOHN GONZEL $1,000,000 TO BALTIMORE ORIOLES FOR 3B JIMMY WILLIAMS Williams- I had to give up my ace, 1 million dollars and my starting 1st baseman to get him. And I couldent be happier, he is only 24 but he is already a star, He will IMMEDIATELY move to 3B and bat 4th in the order. Charlie Hickman will move to 1st base and bat 6th SEASON STARTS NOW April 1st-Giants lose 5-1 2B Frank Bowerman (1) 3B Jimmy Williams (1) HR NONE ROGER DENZER (L) 9.0 10 H 2 BB 0 K 2 HR April 2nd-Giants lose 6-5 2B John Warner (1) George Van Haltren (1) 3B NONE HR NONE CHRISTY MATHEWSON 7.0 8 H 1 BB 0 K 4 ER Livingstone (L) 0-1

11-30-2007, 04:40 AM	#5
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	April 3rd-Giants lose 11-7 2B Charlie Hickman (1) George Davis (1) 3B Charlie Hickman (1) George Davis (1) HR George Van Haltren (1) DUMMY TAYLOR (L) 0-1 1.2 9 R 2 ER 3 BB 0 K 5 H April 4th- Giants win 5-4 2B Danny Murph (1) 3B Charlie Hickman (2) Curt Bernard (1) HR NONE CHAUNCEY FISHER 7.0 10 H 1 BB 1 K 4 ER JAKE LIVINGSTONE (W) 1-1

11-30-2007, 01:54 PM	#6
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	Dummy Taylor is out for 24 days with a stretched knee ligament he will be replaced in the rotation by Chauncey Fisher April 5th Giants lose 11-5 2B- Cy Morgan (1) 3B NONE HR NONE This game really annoyed me as i need to definitely take a look at our struggles when our only extra base hit in the whole game is by the relief pitcher, UGGGGH Giants are now 1-4 April 6th Giants Win 4-2 2B SP Roger Denzer (1) CF George Van Haltren (2) 3B NONE HR NONE ROGER DENZER 9.0 7 H 2 BB 1 HR 2 ER TRADE AAA SS Joe Bean 3B Aleck Smith LF Al Maul for P Kid Carsey Carsey will go straight into my struggling bullpen UP FROM AAA to replace 2 bench players traded... SS Charlie Babb 2B Ray Nelson

11-30-2007, 02:14 PM	#7
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	now after 6 games i will need to mess around with my lineup to find whats right .435 C Frank Bowerman FROM 8th TO 6th .240 3B Charlie Hickman FROM 6th TO 7th .240 RF Curt Bernard FROM 7th TO 8th Giants Lose 13-5 2B Jimmy Williams (1) 3B NONE HR George Van Haltren (1) CHRISTY MATHEWSON 2.0 9 H 1 BB 8 ER 0 K Okay this is starting to frustrate me we are now 2-5 and this is not a good start to the season, I will give this lineup a few more games but if it doesent work dont be surprised if I change it again. STARTING HERE I WILL POST MOSTLY WEEKLY UPDATES TO MOVE FASTER. George Van Haltren .333 2 HR 16 RBI Danny Murphy .290 0 HR 3 RBI George Davis .207 0 HR 1 HR Jimmy Williams .156 0 HR 3 RBI Kip Selbach .269 0 HR 1 RBI Frank Bowerman .464 0 HR 5 RBI Charlie Hickman .241 0 HR 0 RBI Curt Bernard .241 0 HR 5 RBI

11-30-2007, 02:25 PM	#8
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	April 8th NEW LINEUP AFTER CHANGES VAN HALTREN MURPHY BOWERMAN DAVIS WILLIAMS SELBACH HICKMAN BERNARD PITCHER April 16th The Giants are starting to rebound, up to 7-8 after the lineup change around, our top hitters are Frank Bowerman hitting .424,George Van Haltren batting .359 with 3 HR, AND Curt Bernard who has had a great week now batting .317 INJURY FRANK BOWERMAN WITH A FOOT STRESS FRACTURE HE WILL BE OUT 10 DAYS INTO THE LINEUP REPLACING BOWERMAN IS John Warner C Joe wall is called up to the bigs as Bowerman is injured

11-30-2007, 05:27 PM	#9
dynastyman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42	April 24th The Giants are really starting to hit, they now have a record of 13-9,with a team batting average of .291, the team leaders in batting average are George Van Haltren at .364 followed by George Davis at .348 Frank Bowerman will be ready to return to action in 2 days. we decided to put recent aquisition Kid Carsey in the 4th spot in the rotation Starting rotation Chauncey Fisher 4-0 2.90 ERA Roger Denzer 2-2 2.25 ERA Christy Mathewson 3-1 4.74 ERA Kid Carsey 2-1 3.00 ERA 13-9 0.5 GB