better/worse players

rwdfsgmc · 09-22-2002, 10:33 PM

About to start new solo league, but want it based more on this year. What are the players who have much better or worse seasons then last year? I've got Derrek Lowe, Alfonsio Soriano, and to a lesser extent Mark Prior, and Shea Hillenbrand. Thanks.

Long_Long_Name · 09-23-2002, 01:43 PM

If you're going to do that, you might as well change everybody's ratings, that's the problem...

For the Expos I can suggest Tomo Ohka and Brad Wilkerson. To a lesser extent, Masato Yoshii. I'm not sure how high Guerrero and Colon are rated in the roster set you're using, but double-check, just in case

atomheart · 09-23-2002, 01:49 PM

Perhaps we can take this opportunity to enlighten other people about our hometown teams, and who's improved and who's declined.

As for my Pirates:

Improved: Josh Fogg, Kip Wells, Kris Benson, Mike Williams.
Declined: A. Ramirez, J. Kendall

Um...that's about it. This team blows and sucks at the same time, which is hard to do when you think about it.

Anyone else want to report for their teams?

At

mheart

rwdfsgmc · 09-23-2002, 02:34 PM

I see point about roster changes, but not sure how to make roster set without it taking 3 years. If someone could tell me, I'd just use this years stats, if not this is best I can do. Thanks for the replies, I only plan on 3 or 4 players per team being changed so this is about right.

CMH · 09-23-2002, 06:30 PM

how about making some players slightly worse?

I have a couple:

Carlos Pena
J.D. Drew
Josh Beckett
Carlos E. Hernandez

I'm not sayin these players wont be great, or arent already. but Rolen was maybe a bit too generous with the Prospect hype.

fantom1979 · 09-23-2002, 08:19 PM

The Tigers traded Pena for Jeff Weaver, so I am hoping that Pena will be awesome, but Rolens probably does jump the gun a bit.

Cianfrocco · 09-25-2002, 03:02 AM

Going with the home-town approach for the M's:

Better- Pineiro, Hasegawa
Worse- Cameron, Sierra, Boone, Garcia

Long_Long_Name · 09-25-2002, 11:17 AM

Sierra's not only been awful this year you know.... I don't think he's much of a disappointment only this year.

CMH · 09-25-2002, 11:28 AM

Sierra played pretty well last year. he put up some good power numbers in limited action. i guess seattle was hopin for a repeat performance.

dont expect too much from guys who've been out of baseball for some time. thats my philosophy.

Cianfrocco · 09-25-2002, 04:56 PM

Sierra was the comeback player of the year with Texas last year, and he was leading the league in hitting after about 3 weeks this season. It's been all down hill since then. Last year he hit .291, 21 HR, 67 RBI. With 50 more AB this year, he is at .270, 13, 60.

Carplos · 09-25-2002, 08:45 PM

Those aren't HUGE differences considering he went from Arlington to Safeco...

twins15 · 09-25-2002, 09:26 PM

For the Twins: Better: Hunter, Mohr, Kielty, Guardado, Romero, Jones

Worse: Mays, Radke, Koskie

crackpott · 09-25-2002, 11:43 PM

Better: Vernon Wells, Eric Hinske, Josh Phelps, Chris Woodward, Orlando Hudson, Roy Halliday

Worse: Delgado... no worse than last year, but... another bad season = lowering his grade.

Long_Long_Name · 09-25-2002, 11:46 PM

Yeah, the Jays had a few breakout players.... how come they sucked so bad???

09-22-2002, 10:33 PM	#1
rwdfsgmc Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 45	better/worse players About to start new solo league, but want it based more on this year. What are the players who have much better or worse seasons then last year? I've got Derrek Lowe, Alfonsio Soriano, and to a lesser extent Mark Prior, and Shea Hillenbrand. Thanks.

09-23-2002, 01:43 PM	#2
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	If you're going to do that, you might as well change everybody's ratings, that's the problem... For the Expos I can suggest Tomo Ohka and Brad Wilkerson. To a lesser extent, Masato Yoshii. I'm not sure how high Guerrero and Colon are rated in the roster set you're using, but double-check, just in case __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

09-23-2002, 08:19 PM	#6
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	The Tigers traded Pena for Jeff Weaver, so I am hoping that Pena will be awesome, but Rolens probably does jump the gun a bit. __________________

09-25-2002, 11:17 AM	#8
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Sierra's not only been awful this year you know.... I don't think he's much of a disappointment only this year. __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

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09-23-2002, 01:49 PM	#3
atomheart Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 454	Perhaps we can take this opportunity to enlighten other people about our hometown teams, and who's improved and who's declined. As for my Pirates: Improved: Josh Fogg, Kip Wells, Kris Benson, Mike Williams. Declined: A. Ramirez, J. Kendall Um...that's about it. This team blows and sucks at the same time, which is hard to do when you think about it. Anyone else want to report for their teams? At mheart

09-23-2002, 02:34 PM	#4
rwdfsgmc Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 45	I see point about roster changes, but not sure how to make roster set without it taking 3 years. If someone could tell me, I'd just use this years stats, if not this is best I can do. Thanks for the replies, I only plan on 3 or 4 players per team being changed so this is about right.

09-23-2002, 06:30 PM	#5
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	how about making some players slightly worse? I have a couple: Carlos Pena J.D. Drew Josh Beckett Carlos E. Hernandez I'm not sayin these players wont be great, or arent already. but Rolen was maybe a bit too generous with the Prospect hype.

09-25-2002, 03:02 AM	#7
Cianfrocco Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 78	Going with the home-town approach for the M's: Better- Pineiro, Hasegawa Worse- Cameron, Sierra, Boone, Garcia

09-25-2002, 11:28 AM	#9
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	Sierra played pretty well last year. he put up some good power numbers in limited action. i guess seattle was hopin for a repeat performance. dont expect too much from guys who've been out of baseball for some time. thats my philosophy.

09-25-2002, 04:56 PM	#10
Cianfrocco Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 78	Sierra was the comeback player of the year with Texas last year, and he was leading the league in hitting after about 3 weeks this season. It's been all down hill since then. Last year he hit .291, 21 HR, 67 RBI. With 50 more AB this year, he is at .270, 13, 60.

09-25-2002, 08:45 PM	#11
Carplos Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,890 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Those aren't HUGE differences considering he went from Arlington to Safeco...

09-25-2002, 11:43 PM	#13
crackpott Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,961	Better: Vernon Wells, Eric Hinske, Josh Phelps, Chris Woodward, Orlando Hudson, Roy Halliday Worse: Delgado... no worse than last year, but... another bad season = lowering his grade. __________________ Abandoned Planet - Check it out. The photos don't suck anymore.

09-25-2002, 11:46 PM	#14
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Yeah, the Jays had a few breakout players.... how come they sucked so bad??? __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!