89 stolen bases in a season!

WeatherMike · 09-18-2002, 05:44 PM

I ran a league on my computer as the Montreal Expos and Jimmy Rollins was my shortstop, and he had 89 steals. Brandon Phillips was my second baseman and he had 61 steals. I didn't cheat, but Rollins's speed and stealing ability were both A, and Phillips's speed was A and stealing ability was B. I also had the manager tendencies for stealing set to "Very Often," while everything else was set to "normal". I know these guys should both have had a lot of stolen bases considering their ability, but don't you think this is a little TOO much? Is there a bug I don't know about?

JQLorenz · 09-18-2002, 06:00 PM

A bug?

NO I wouldn't say so.

Rollins has the best speed and stealing attributes the game allows plus you're telling him to steal almost anytime he's on base.

100SB isn't that many for a year given those conditions.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-18-2002, 06:14 PM

No, that is not an usually high number.....

JAttractive · 09-18-2002, 06:15 PM

People have stolen more than that before so I see no problem.

Henry · 09-18-2002, 06:17 PM

Brock had 118 in 1974 and Henderson got 130 in 1982

Henry

Kurtis R. · 09-18-2002, 06:18 PM

First season of CUBL we had a fictional player steal 100 bases. He was on pace for 140 I think half way through the season.. but dropped off at the end.

No one has even come close to that since. His ratings were also AA

Kurtis

LeeSkye · 09-18-2002, 06:49 PM

I had someone steal 114 bases in the second year of my fictional league and I had it set to often. He ended his fictional career with 1365 and no one else was within 600 after simming 43 years.

LivnLegend · 09-18-2002, 06:54 PM

In the (dearly departed) online PSBL, my speedy center fielder Jason Johnson had a league record 104 stolen bases. (A/A set to Often)

Cooleyvol · 09-18-2002, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by LivnLegend
In the (dearly departed) online PSBL, my speedy center fielder Jason Johnson had a league record 104 stolen bases. (A/A set to Often)

I d/l that league file and converted it to v4 the other day just for kicks.

Never know when you might need that file.

blubbla · 09-18-2002, 08:52 PM

I've got a B/B runner that has 50+ SB through mid July -- and I run nearly every chance I get, so that's not high at all.

WWBL Commissioner · 09-18-2002, 09:27 PM

I think that is well within what the numbers of steals should be. Since he was an A/A player with steals set to often. On another note I have seen the PSBL mentioned several times...what happened to the league?

statfreak · 09-18-2002, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by WeatherMike
...I know these guys should both have had a lot of stolen bases considering their ability, but don't you think this is a little TOO much? Is there a bug I don't know about?

If anything, I'd say that is too few with a setting of very often.

LivnLegend · 09-18-2002, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by WWBL Commissioner
I think that is well within what the numbers of steals should be. Since he was an A/A player with steals set to often. On another note I have seen the PSBL mentioned several times...what happened to the league?

Commissioner bailed...same old story, real life more important than an online league.

Had I more experience I would have asked to take it over. The web site is still up PSBL.net complete with no pop-up message board. A lot of guys that were in that league have gone on to much success in other leagues...Joe Moore and Lloyd Goodrich are now Commissioners themselves. Other former GMs like Michael Eichhorn, Vincent Bozanic, Sean Torgerson, and Shane Borgeson are very well respected members of the OOTP community. and of course there was that Scott Fite character whose team won a couple PSBL Championships...

Delgadodawg · 09-19-2002, 03:06 AM

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and of course there was that Scott Fite character whose team won a couple PSBL Championships...

LOL..one of which before you took over

Yeah the PSBL was a great league with some very dedicated owners.
I have always been holding out hope that someway the league would be revived.

jjd · 09-19-2002, 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by LivnLegend

A lot of guys that were in that league have gone on to much success in other leagues...Joe Moore and Lloyd Goodrich are now Commissioners themselves. Other former GMs like Michael Eichhorn, Vincent Bozanic, Sean Torgerson, and Shane Borgeson are very well respected members of the OOTP community. and of course there was that Scott Fite character whose team won a couple PSBL Championships...

Yeah, and a few of us less well respected members of the community just sort of linger around. We do our best to keep guys like that Fite character from even making the playoffs in other leagues...

Pioneers in '88 !

Hammer755 · 09-19-2002, 08:40 AM

Wow, a PSBL reunion. How this brings back the memories (tear).

LivnLegend · 09-19-2002, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by jjd
Yeah, and a few of us less well respected members of the community just sort of linger around. We do our best to keep guys like that Fite character from even making the playoffs in other leagues...

Pioneers in '88 !

Dammit Joe! I knew if I started listing names I'd leave someone out and look stupid!

Joe Allen, ladies and gentlemen, another well-repsected member of the OOTP community (and ABA fodder for the Ft. Worth Roadrunners).

drprestwood · 09-19-2002, 11:50 AM

Not at all odd. In my sim league, Ichiro's base-stealing skills increased suddenly...he stole a lot of bases.

2002 79
2003 88
2004 110
2005 94
2006 90
2007 96
2008 90

Career: 703 sb, 143 cs

jjd · 09-19-2002, 12:17 PM

Well, after back to back 95 loss seasons in the PSBL, the Hollywood Stars were easy to forget!

fluharty · 09-19-2002, 02:31 PM

I have had fiction players in the 80s with normal settings, and a few in the low 100s with 'very often' settings.

09-18-2002, 05:44 PM	#1
WeatherMike Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ravenswood, WV Posts: 67	89 stolen bases in a season! I ran a league on my computer as the Montreal Expos and Jimmy Rollins was my shortstop, and he had 89 steals. Brandon Phillips was my second baseman and he had 61 steals. I didn't cheat, but Rollins's speed and stealing ability were both A, and Phillips's speed was A and stealing ability was B. I also had the manager tendencies for stealing set to "Very Often," while everything else was set to "normal". I know these guys should both have had a lot of stolen bases considering their ability, but don't you think this is a little TOO much? Is there a bug I don't know about?

09-18-2002, 06:14 PM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	No, that is not an usually high number..... __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

09-18-2002, 06:18 PM	#6
Kurtis R. All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,105	First season of CUBL we had a fictional player steal 100 bases. He was on pace for 140 I think half way through the season.. but dropped off at the end. No one has even come close to that since. His ratings were also AA Kurtis __________________ CUBL Commissioner

09-18-2002, 06:54 PM	#8
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	In the (dearly departed) online PSBL, my speedy center fielder Jason Johnson had a league record 104 stolen bases. (A/A set to Often) __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

09-18-2002, 09:27 PM	#11
WWBL Commissioner All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 887	I think that is well within what the numbers of steals should be. Since he was an A/A player with steals set to often. On another note I have seen the PSBL mentioned several times...what happened to the league? __________________ Offey WWBL Commissioner(2004-2014 real life years) WWBL: Hawaii Island Warriors 2005 Pacific League Champion 2006 Pacific League Champion 2007 Pacific League Champion 2008 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2010 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2019 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2029 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION The Island Warriors are 21-23 in World Series play. BadAssBaseball: Boston Red Sox 1906 American League Champion 1907 WORLD CHAMPION

09-18-2002, 06:00 PM	#2
JQLorenz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 109	A bug? NO I wouldn't say so. Rollins has the best speed and stealing attributes the game allows plus you're telling him to steal almost anytime he's on base. 100SB isn't that many for a year given those conditions.

09-18-2002, 06:15 PM	#4
JAttractive All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Posts: 1,135	People have stolen more than that before so I see no problem.

09-18-2002, 06:17 PM	#5
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	Brock had 118 in 1974 and Henderson got 130 in 1982 Henry

09-18-2002, 06:49 PM	#7
LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	I had someone steal 114 bases in the second year of my fictional league and I had it set to often. He ended his fictional career with 1365 and no one else was within 600 after simming 43 years.

09-18-2002, 08:52 PM	#10
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,460	I've got a B/B runner that has 50+ SB through mid July -- and I run nearly every chance I get, so that's not high at all.

09-19-2002, 08:40 AM	#16
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	Wow, a PSBL reunion. How this brings back the memories (tear).

09-19-2002, 11:50 AM	#18
drprestwood All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,501	Not at all odd. In my sim league, Ichiro's base-stealing skills increased suddenly...he stole a lot of bases. 2002 79 2003 88 2004 110 2005 94 2006 90 2007 96 2008 90 Career: 703 sb, 143 cs

09-19-2002, 12:17 PM	#19
jjd Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 255	Well, after back to back 95 loss seasons in the PSBL, the Hollywood Stars were easy to forget! __________________ ABA - Pittsburgh Pioneers - Co-Commish

09-19-2002, 02:31 PM	#20
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	I have had fiction players in the 80s with normal settings, and a few in the low 100s with 'very often' settings.