Getting Ready for 2008 Rosters -- NEED YOUR HELP! Join the 2008 Roster Team!

CubbyFan23 · 09-18-2007, 12:52 AM

2008 TEAM NEEDS
Major League Database: CubbyFan23
Major League Ratings: ?
Minor League Stats/Rosters: Operation Shutdown
Minor League Stats/Rosters: cameron
Minor League Stats/Rosters: redsoxford
Minor League Stats/Rosters: Old Fat Guy
Minor League Stats/Rosters: cameron
International Leagues: ?
Stadiums: ?
Coaches: ?

Hey guys,

Back on the ol' train once again, and getting in the mood to get things going here for 2008. As has been hammered over and over in the past, we need to have a total team effort here, and I'm certainly willing to spearhead that if nothing else. I think another thing that needs to be done is getting things done BEFORE things like the Lahman database, BA Top 10, etc. are released around January-February.

I'm willing to do my part in getting a database out there with 2007 stats BEFORE that Lahman drops in late January. I think with Excel comma-delimited files it should be a lot easier (although still tough) than I thought it was going to be. I'm willing to do this and help put the main parts of the set together.

However, I think we need to really get cracking on minor league stats this year so we can have them in the release next year. This is one area where you guys can REALLY help me. What I've done for my "test" team is go through, edit all the vitals, and then copy the players stats in from www.sports-wired.com (has career minor league stats) into a regular notepad document. This will save the tabs that separate the different stat fields and make it so that I can import it into Excel and manipulate the data to import into OOTP. Putting the player ID # on here is essential too because without it, I can't really import the stats. I put an example of how I did this at the bottom.

I would love to get people cracking on the minor league rosters and stats while I'm putting this 2007 stats database together. If anyone else would like to help me with the stats database for the ML rosters, I'm sure we could find a way to segment this as well.

What I'm thinking is that I can put together a "template" for us to work with, that I can send all of you guys to work off of, and we can get this baby going as soon as October 1 hits. If we get THAT going, I really think that we can put out a great roster set for 2008.

All of this is assuming of course that there won't be any problems importing a 2007 league into 2008, of which I guess I'll have to ask Markus first. But I think we can get a LOT of the work done in 2007, and then even guys who don't get on the Beta team can continue to work with text documents, etc. for importing (and we can make a push to get as many people on beta as possible I'm sure).

So if you're SERIOUS about putting in some hard work on this project, please let me know in here. I'd really like to get this off the ground and get serious about actually having a REAL and ridiculously in depth roster set out there for 2008. And at the same time, I'd like to let you guys get an inside look at the whole process by helping, so that we always know exactly where we stand on progress and no one in the community is in the dark about a release timeframe.

I assure you that this isn't any work (for now) that you have to know a ton about the sport to do. This will be for now, just editing player info and not ratings or anything that is subject to a certain person's opinion (so you can't mess it up!

) We can handle ratings WAY down the line, but getting this framework started is essential.

Sorry for the long-winded post.

CubbyFan23 · 09-18-2007, 12:53 AM

Here's an example of how I'm putting the stats into a notepad document. If we put things in like this, I can import it into Excel, swap some columns around, insert a few lines of info for each player, and then import them so that we can have full minor league (and independent/foreign) stats.

EXAMPLE:

Code:

YAMID HAAD (9046)
Year	Team	Lg	Age	Org.	Level	 	Pos	Ln	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	IBB	SH	 SF	DP 	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	GB%
1997	Erie	NYPL	19	Pit	A-	 	c	 	43	155	27	45	7	3	1	19	3	3	7	27	0	0	1	6	5 	.290	.310	.394	704	--
1998	Lynchburg	Caro	20	Pit	A+	 	c	 	88	299	32	76	8	2	5	34	1	7	13	54	3	0	4	4	11 	.254	.288	.344	632	--
1999	Lynchburg	Caro	21	Pit	A+	 	c	 	59	209	31	53	11	1	5	33	5	2	33	42	1	1	2	3	8 	.254	.354	.388	742	--
 	Altoona	East	21	Pit	AA	 	c	 	43	137	20	25	3	0	6	10	7	3	19	32	0	0	1	1	4 	.182	.280	.336	616	--
 	Pittsburgh	NL	21	Pit	MLB	 		 	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0 	.000	.000	.000	000	--
2000	Lynchburg	Caro	22	Pit	A+	 	c	 	25	91	14	23	8	0	3	9	2	0	11	16	0	0	0	1	4 	.253	.330	.440	770	--
 	Altoona	East	22	Pit	AA	 	c	 	59	183	24	36	7	0	4	13	1	1	18	44	0	0	1	1	4 	.197	.267	.301	568	--
2001	Lynchburg	Caro	23	Pit	A+	 	c	 	3	11	0	2	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	3	0	0	0	0	0 	.182	.182	.273	455	--
 	Altoona	East	23	Pit	AA	 	c	 	1	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0 	.000	.000	.000	000	--
 	Nashville	PCL	23	Pit	AAA	 	c	 	51	144	14	37	5	0	2	10	0	3	7	27	0	0	2	0	2 	.257	.291	.333	624	--
2002	Durham	Caro	24	Tb	A+	 	c	 	20	70	6	12	1	0	0	5	0	0	2	13	0	0	0	2	3 	.171	.189	.186	375	--
 	Mobile	Sou	24	Sd	AA	 	c	 	18	53	6	15	1	0	1	13	1	0	5	8	0	0	0	2	1 	.283	.333	.358	691	--
 	Orlando	Sou	24	Tb	AA	 	c	 	29	108	12	20	2	0	3	15	2	1	6	23	0	1	1	3	3 	.185	.222	.287	509	--
2003	Mobile	Sou	25	Sd	AA	 	1b-c	 	9	29	3	8	2	0	1	5	0	0	3	4	0	0	0	0	2 	.276	.344	.448	792	--
 	Portland	PCL	25	Sd	AAA	 	c	 	80	258	24	60	13	1	10	34	3	2	15	55	2	0	0	2	1 	.233	.278	.407	685	--
2004	Portland	PCL	26	Sd	AAA	 	c	 	80	295	47	89	21	0	9	35	3	0	16	41	0	1	1	0	3 	.302	.338	.464	802	--
2005	Fresno	PCL	27	Sf	AAA	 	c	 	63	216	23	61	13	1	10	34	2	0	8	32	2	0	2	3	5 	.282	.310	.491	801	--
 	SF Giants	NL	27	Sf	MLB	log	c	8	17	28	0	2	1	0	0	1	0	0	3	7	0	0	0	1	2 	.071	.156	.107	263	56%
2006	Salem-Kzr	Nwest	28	Sf	A-	 	c	 	5	16	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	4	0	0	0	0	0 	.000	.059	.000	059	--
 	San Jose	Calif	28	Sf	A+	 	c	 	13	39	6	10	2	0	1	5	0	1	9	9	0	0	0	0	2 	.256	.396	.385	781	--
 	Fresno	PCL	28	Sf	AAA	 	c	 	39	115	13	21	7	0	3	11	0	0	3	21	1	0	0	1	2 	.183	.208	.322	530	--
2007	Buffalo	IL	29	Cle	AAA	Sep 10,2007	 	 	35	113	14	34	4	0	2	14	2	0	9	22	0	0	1	2	6 	.301	.347	.389	736

kagnew35 · 09-18-2007, 01:31 AM

Cubby, do you think a private chat room might be of use in this project? People can get together in real time to go over things of interest.Multiple discussions can be going on in private rooms with no interuptions.

Drop in and look it over at soxxcountry.com duffys tavern link

Operation Shutdown · 09-18-2007, 02:13 PM

Sign me up. While I likely can't put hundreds of hours in for a project like this, I can find time for 5-10 hours a week to help out. I'd be interested in hunting down stats on the web mostly.

cameron · 09-18-2007, 06:03 PM

Cubby you can sign me up for this project....I can't put in tons of hours but should be able to get in about 10 hours per week.

CubbyFan23 · 09-21-2007, 02:53 AM

Bump -- trying to get hold of battists and Markus about importing into OOTP9 now, the more help though that I can get recruited the better, I think we have a team of about five right now to start working on these minor league stats.

I'm planning on getting things organized this weekend and getting you guys out something Monday that you can start looking at.

-Garrett

DrArbiter · 09-22-2007, 12:15 AM

I've posted (almost) complete 2005-2007 stats, with an ID system, at http://econweb.tamu.edu/turocy/minors

I've got stats coded to an ID system back to 1994, though it'll take a little more work to integrate them -- PM me and I can hook you up.

battists · 09-26-2007, 12:43 PM

Hi guys,

I spoke with Garrett (cubby) about rosters for 2008. We're going to be taking a different approach for the next version of the game, and I've invited Garrett into that fold.

If you're also interested in participating, please send in an application for the beta team, and be sure to check off the checkbox for "rosters"!

Thanks,

Steve

papagiorgio01 · 10-17-2007, 11:52 PM

Any chance we get a 2007/2008 offseason roster set before for OOTP 2007?

CubbyFan23 · 10-17-2007, 11:55 PM

Yep, finishing up the touches on it before we start on the next project.

It's not going to be as detailed as past versions (obviously) but I don't think that's a totally bad thing. I'm hoping someone picks up with it where I leave off and runs with it while the community waits on OOTP9 over the winter.

I've already imported all of the players and stats from 2007, and I'm going through now and putting them on correct teams, etc. I'm up to Philadelphia alphabetically, and after that I'll put in real salaries and MLB coaches and release the first version.

I'm only planning on using mostly fake players for the minors (although I'll probably do the top ten-thirty prospects for each team and the guys with service time from 2007 are obviously going to be sprinkled throughout the minors as they aren't all MLB ready... see Kevin Cash

)

papagiorgio01 · 10-18-2007, 01:20 AM

Awesome! I can't wait. I'm sure I'll completely redo the Giants minor league system so it has all the players in it.

Thanks for constantly putting out great stuff!

mgom27 · 10-18-2007, 09:03 PM

Some of the other MLB 2007 Leagues out their have all the poeple you need so no need for fake people in the new version.

CubbyFan23 · 10-18-2007, 10:06 PM

Hmm, true. I'm not sure how combining files would go about working though, I'm a bit gun shy after the last debacle with crashes, etc.

I might release this version, then combine them and release that and we can give it a try.

CubbyFan23 · 10-18-2007, 10:09 PM

Oh and I'm hoping to finish up touching up ratings/moving guys to the right teams tonight and then get cracking on salaries tomorrow.

Mazeroski · 10-22-2007, 03:42 PM

I would definately be willing to help for a 2008 edition. I would like to help with the coaches. I will be willing to research for all the various leagues around, and input their stats and managerial tendencies if I can find reports on them. Also included would be biographical information, and if I can find photos. Not sure what all the new version of rosters for the next version of OOTP will have, so any input on that would be helpful. I did apply to beta test the game, so hopefully, I will be asked onboard. I helped in beta testing OOTP 3, and also at that time had released a roster set. Years ago, though. Anyhow, let me know.

Thanks,
Jay

CubbyFan23 · 10-22-2007, 07:34 PM

In the 2008 roster set that I'm building in '07 before we get to work on beta, I've just finished re-rating MLB players, have salaries to do and the first release should be out.

CubbyFan23 · 10-29-2007, 10:43 PM

ML rosters + salaries are done for all but 5 teams, so I'm thinking this should be out in the next few days.

I'll at first release a very bare bones set with 2006/2007 players who played at least one game in MLB+ fictional minors, and then see if I can combine the minors from my 2007 MLB set into this one for the next release.

09-18-2007, 12:52 AM	#1
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Getting Ready for 2008 Rosters -- NEED YOUR HELP! Join the 2008 Roster Team! 2008 TEAM NEEDS Major League Database: CubbyFan23 Major League Ratings: ? Minor League Stats/Rosters: Operation Shutdown Minor League Stats/Rosters: cameron Minor League Stats/Rosters: redsoxford Minor League Stats/Rosters: Old Fat Guy Minor League Stats/Rosters: cameron International Leagues: ? Stadiums: ? Coaches: ? Hey guys, Back on the ol' train once again, and getting in the mood to get things going here for 2008. As has been hammered over and over in the past, we need to have a total team effort here, and I'm certainly willing to spearhead that if nothing else. I think another thing that needs to be done is getting things done BEFORE things like the Lahman database, BA Top 10, etc. are released around January-February. I'm willing to do my part in getting a database out there with 2007 stats BEFORE that Lahman drops in late January. I think with Excel comma-delimited files it should be a lot easier (although still tough) than I thought it was going to be. I'm willing to do this and help put the main parts of the set together. However, I think we need to really get cracking on minor league stats this year so we can have them in the release next year. This is one area where you guys can REALLY help me. What I've done for my "test" team is go through, edit all the vitals, and then copy the players stats in from www.sports-wired.com (has career minor league stats) into a regular notepad document. This will save the tabs that separate the different stat fields and make it so that I can import it into Excel and manipulate the data to import into OOTP. Putting the player ID # on here is essential too because without it, I can't really import the stats. I put an example of how I did this at the bottom. I would love to get people cracking on the minor league rosters and stats while I'm putting this 2007 stats database together. If anyone else would like to help me with the stats database for the ML rosters, I'm sure we could find a way to segment this as well. What I'm thinking is that I can put together a "template" for us to work with, that I can send all of you guys to work off of, and we can get this baby going as soon as October 1 hits. If we get THAT going, I really think that we can put out a great roster set for 2008. All of this is assuming of course that there won't be any problems importing a 2007 league into 2008, of which I guess I'll have to ask Markus first. But I think we can get a LOT of the work done in 2007, and then even guys who don't get on the Beta team can continue to work with text documents, etc. for importing (and we can make a push to get as many people on beta as possible I'm sure). So if you're SERIOUS about putting in some hard work on this project, please let me know in here. I'd really like to get this off the ground and get serious about actually having a REAL and ridiculously in depth roster set out there for 2008. And at the same time, I'd like to let you guys get an inside look at the whole process by helping, so that we always know exactly where we stand on progress and no one in the community is in the dark about a release timeframe. I assure you that this isn't any work (for now) that you have to know a ton about the sport to do. This will be for now, just editing player info and not ratings or anything that is subject to a certain person's opinion (so you can't mess it up! ) We can handle ratings WAY down the line, but getting this framework started is essential. Sorry for the long-winded post. Last edited by CubbyFan23; 09-21-2007 at 02:54 AM.

09-18-2007, 01:31 AM	#3
kagnew35 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nev Posts: 1,965	Cubby, do you think a private chat room might be of use in this project? People can get together in real time to go over things of interest.Multiple discussions can be going on in private rooms with no interuptions. Drop in and look it over at soxxcountry.com duffys tavern link __________________ Elder Statesman of the Board http://www.soxxcountry.com/ site with FaceGen Central and Duffys Tavern Live OOTP Chat Room

09-18-2007, 02:13 PM	#4
Operation Shutdown All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 912	Sign me up. While I likely can't put hundreds of hours in for a project like this, I can find time for 5-10 hours a week to help out. I'd be interested in hunting down stats on the web mostly. __________________ "And Shepherds we shall be, For thee, my Lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."

09-18-2007, 06:03 PM	#5
cameron Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 196	Willing to help Cubby you can sign me up for this project....I can't put in tons of hours but should be able to get in about 10 hours per week.

10-17-2007, 11:52 PM	#9
papagiorgio01 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 82	Any chance we get a 2007/2008 offseason roster set before for OOTP 2007? __________________

09-21-2007, 02:53 AM	#6
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Bump -- trying to get hold of battists and Markus about importing into OOTP9 now, the more help though that I can get recruited the better, I think we have a team of about five right now to start working on these minor league stats. I'm planning on getting things organized this weekend and getting you guys out something Monday that you can start looking at. -Garrett

09-22-2007, 12:15 AM	#7
DrArbiter Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Observing Posts: 177	I've posted (almost) complete 2005-2007 stats, with an ID system, at http://econweb.tamu.edu/turocy/minors I've got stats coded to an ID system back to 1994, though it'll take a little more work to integrate them -- PM me and I can hook you up.

09-26-2007, 12:43 PM	#8
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	Hi guys, I spoke with Garrett (cubby) about rosters for 2008. We're going to be taking a different approach for the next version of the game, and I've invited Garrett into that fold. If you're also interested in participating, please send in an application for the beta team, and be sure to check off the checkbox for "rosters"! Thanks, Steve

10-17-2007, 11:55 PM	#10
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Yep, finishing up the touches on it before we start on the next project. It's not going to be as detailed as past versions (obviously) but I don't think that's a totally bad thing. I'm hoping someone picks up with it where I leave off and runs with it while the community waits on OOTP9 over the winter. I've already imported all of the players and stats from 2007, and I'm going through now and putting them on correct teams, etc. I'm up to Philadelphia alphabetically, and after that I'll put in real salaries and MLB coaches and release the first version. I'm only planning on using mostly fake players for the minors (although I'll probably do the top ten-thirty prospects for each team and the guys with service time from 2007 are obviously going to be sprinkled throughout the minors as they aren't all MLB ready... see Kevin Cash )

10-18-2007, 01:20 AM	#11
papagiorgio01 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 82	Awesome! I can't wait. I'm sure I'll completely redo the Giants minor league system so it has all the players in it. Thanks for constantly putting out great stuff! __________________

10-18-2007, 09:03 PM	#12
mgom27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,529	Some of the other MLB 2007 Leagues out their have all the poeple you need so no need for fake people in the new version. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

10-18-2007, 10:06 PM	#13
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Hmm, true. I'm not sure how combining files would go about working though, I'm a bit gun shy after the last debacle with crashes, etc. I might release this version, then combine them and release that and we can give it a try.

10-18-2007, 10:09 PM	#14
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	Oh and I'm hoping to finish up touching up ratings/moving guys to the right teams tonight and then get cracking on salaries tomorrow.

10-22-2007, 03:42 PM	#15
Mazeroski Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Riverview, Fl. Posts: 7	I would definately be willing to help for a 2008 edition. I would like to help with the coaches. I will be willing to research for all the various leagues around, and input their stats and managerial tendencies if I can find reports on them. Also included would be biographical information, and if I can find photos. Not sure what all the new version of rosters for the next version of OOTP will have, so any input on that would be helpful. I did apply to beta test the game, so hopefully, I will be asked onboard. I helped in beta testing OOTP 3, and also at that time had released a roster set. Years ago, though. Anyhow, let me know. Thanks, Jay

10-22-2007, 07:34 PM	#16
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	In the 2008 roster set that I'm building in '07 before we get to work on beta, I've just finished re-rating MLB players, have salaries to do and the first release should be out.

10-29-2007, 10:43 PM	#17
CubbyFan23 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 2,257	ML rosters + salaries are done for all but 5 teams, so I'm thinking this should be out in the next few days. I'll at first release a very bare bones set with 2006/2007 players who played at least one game in MLB+ fictional minors, and then see if I can combine the minors from my 2007 MLB set into this one for the next release.