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1998 Yankees · 09-17-2007, 07:17 PM

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Public to decide fate of Bonds' record-breaking ball

The fate of Barry Bonds' record-breaking home run ball is now in the public's hands after its buyer announced Monday he was taking votes on whether to give the ball to the Hall of Fame, brand it with an asterisk or blast it into space.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

The voting link appears at the end of the article.

myasu · 09-17-2007, 11:57 PM

I voted, that it should go to the HOF.

I think the ball (and even Bods himself) should go to Cooperstown until it is proven and decided officially that the record is not legitimate.
I know many people will have defferent opinions about this, but I think that's the way it should be.

Everybody (including me) can blame him or his ball as he/she wants once it is proven that the record is the dirty one, but til then, the ball should be treated nicely.

treedom · 09-18-2007, 12:02 AM

I voted for the first, but wouldn't mind seeing the second either. Not because I'm one of them asterisk advocates, mind you, but because it would be one of them cool footnotes that future generations would throw around during idle conversation, followed by a few grins and maybe a comment about how quaint us turn-of-the-millenium folks were.

1998 Yankees · 09-18-2007, 08:48 AM

I voted for "asterisk" and, I would assume, display at the HoF or someplace else. This, as a perpetual reminder of what can happen to a sport if its caretakers are neglectful.

ctorg · 09-18-2007, 11:24 AM

I voted for the HOF, but I wouldn't mind the blastoff thing. One good thing about shooting it into deep space is that it would end conversation about what to do with it next.

Big Hugg · 09-18-2007, 02:48 PM

I hope if they put an asterisk on it, that the Hall of Fame refuses to display it.

Maybe Microsoft can buy A-Rod's record breaker and brand it with their logo and then send it to the Hall.

darkhorse · 09-18-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Hugg

I hope if they put an asterisk on it, that the Hall of Fame refuses to display it.

The HOF will never display the ball defaced in this manner.

darkhorse · 09-18-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I voted for the HOF, but I wouldn't mind the blastoff thing. One good thing about shooting it into deep space is that it would end conversation about what to do with it next.

In that event, wouldn't it be awesome if the Bonds steroids allegations turned out to be BS.

1998 Yankees · 09-18-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I voted for the HOF, but I wouldn't mind the blastoff thing. One good thing about shooting it into deep space is that it would end conversation about what to do with it next.

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

In that event, wouldn't it be awesome if the Bonds steroids allegations turned out to be BS.

I can see Bonds and MLB financing a satellite retrieval-type of operation in that case.

Dean Mattingly · 09-18-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by myasu

I voted, that it should go to the HOF.

I think the ball (and even Bods himself) should go to Cooperstown until it is proven and decided officially that the record is not legitimate.
I know many people will have defferent opinions about this, but I think that's the way it should be.

Everybody (including me) can blame him or his ball as he/she wants once it is proven that the record is the dirty one, but til then, the ball should be treated nicely.

I agree, except I don't think the steroid issue should actually be an issue. Teams and players have cheated since pro baseball started. I think Bonds deserves the record whether he was juiced or not. All professional sports are a lot more tarnished than some realize, and I don't think it's an issue.

spark240 · 09-18-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

In that event, wouldn't it be awesome if the Bonds steroids allegations turned out to be BS.

You don't actually have any doubts, do you? (Did you read the book?)

thomamon · 09-18-2007, 10:14 PM

Man, I wish there was an option to piss on it...

spark240 · 09-18-2007, 10:39 PM

This is fun and all, and I give the guy credit for having fun with it, but isn't it sort of set up in Bonds' favor? Aren't the anti-Bonds votes going to be split between B (brand) and C (space)?

I voted for spacing it. Kind of like throwing the ball back out of the stands. Way, way out.

Jason Moyer · 09-19-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by spark240

You don't actually have any doubts, do you? (Did you read the book?)

Doubts about the credibility of sensationalist journalism?

None here.

spark240 · 09-19-2007, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

Doubts about the credibility of sensationalist journalism?

None here.

So you, at least, didn't read it. The book hardly carries a sensationalist tone. Really the only legitimate critique, I think, is that they use the term "cheater" periodically. Indeed, that is not necessary. But even so, the tone is sober and the sources are documented. The combined weight of material and circumstantial evidence is really overwhelming.

CMH · 09-19-2007, 10:51 AM

I think that's sad.

It would be nice if there were some rules or governing body that could prevent this sort of thing.

Even if Bonds might have cheated to reach that number the ball shouldn't be blasted into space. It should still be in the HOF because it was a part of baseball history whether it be positive or negative.

To know that the ball could be gone forever out in space is upsetting to me.

People want to say that no player should be bigger than the game. Well, if the ball is launched into space then we're basically saying that today's fans are bigger than history.

myasu · 09-19-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride

I think that's sad.

It would be nice if there were some rules or governing body that could prevent this sort of thing.

Even if Bonds might have cheated to reach that number the ball shouldn't be blasted into space. It should still be in the HOF because it was a part of baseball history whether it be positive or negative.

To know that the ball could be gone forever out in space is upsetting to me.

People want to say that no player should be bigger than the game. Well, if the ball is launched into space then we're basically saying that today's fans are bigger than history.

Great post.
I really must agree with you.

darkhorse · 09-19-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by spark240

You don't actually have any doubts, do you? (Did you read the book?)

Book of Shadows? A completely unbiased, level accounting of events, without a doubt. No ax/grind dichotomy in display there.

The Funk · 09-19-2007, 04:48 PM

Asterisk no hands down. Not only then does the ball get sent to the hall of fame, but it'll also piss off Barry too. Huzzah!

Jordan · 09-19-2007, 05:15 PM

So Bonds called Marc Ecko, the winning bidder and a fashion designer, an idiot today. Typical

I didn't know he bought the ball. As a sidenote I wear his clothes all the time.

I would pick option one. It is a historical artifact, controversial yes, but still an artifact. We haven't done things like this to the supposed skull of Hitler, have we? Not to compare those two, but that's my point.

It bothers me that it could be blasted into spaace the most. The asterisk thing to me is just a grafitti thing that the public wants, which Ecko happens to be a big supporter of.

Option One for me

09-17-2007, 11:57 PM	#2
myasu All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,491	I voted, that it should go to the HOF. I think the ball (and even Bods himself) should go to Cooperstown until it is proven and decided officially that the record is not legitimate. I know many people will have defferent opinions about this, but I think that's the way it should be. Everybody (including me) can blame him or his ball as he/she wants once it is proven that the record is the dirty one, but til then, the ball should be treated nicely. __________________ myasu Bill Spaceman Lee- "The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said I believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the sixties I tested everything."

09-18-2007, 12:02 AM	#3
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	I voted for the first, but wouldn't mind seeing the second either. Not because I'm one of them asterisk advocates, mind you, but because it would be one of them cool footnotes that future generations would throw around during idle conversation, followed by a few grins and maybe a comment about how quaint us turn-of-the-millenium folks were. __________________ A rake and a roustabout. Last edited by treedom; 09-18-2007 at 12:03 AM.

09-18-2007, 11:24 AM	#5
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I voted for the HOF, but I wouldn't mind the blastoff thing. One good thing about shooting it into deep space is that it would end conversation about what to do with it next. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

09-18-2007, 02:48 PM	#6
Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	I hope if they put an asterisk on it, that the Hall of Fame refuses to display it. Maybe Microsoft can buy A-Rod's record breaker and brand it with their logo and then send it to the Hall. Last edited by Big Hugg; 09-18-2007 at 02:50 PM.

09-18-2007, 10:14 PM	#12
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09-18-2007, 08:48 AM	#4
1998 Yankees Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yankee Stadium, back in 1998. Posts: 8,645	I voted for "asterisk" and, I would assume, display at the HoF or someplace else. This, as a perpetual reminder of what can happen to a sport if its caretakers are neglectful.

09-18-2007, 10:39 PM	#13
spark240 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Highest county in the Virginia hills Posts: 637	This is fun and all, and I give the guy credit for having fun with it, but isn't it sort of set up in Bonds' favor? Aren't the anti-Bonds votes going to be split between B (brand) and C (space)? I voted for spacing it. Kind of like throwing the ball back out of the stands. Way, way out.

09-19-2007, 10:51 AM	#16
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	I think that's sad. It would be nice if there were some rules or governing body that could prevent this sort of thing. Even if Bonds might have cheated to reach that number the ball shouldn't be blasted into space. It should still be in the HOF because it was a part of baseball history whether it be positive or negative. To know that the ball could be gone forever out in space is upsetting to me. People want to say that no player should be bigger than the game. Well, if the ball is launched into space then we're basically saying that today's fans are bigger than history.

09-19-2007, 04:48 PM	#19
The Funk All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Watford Posts: 903	Asterisk no hands down. Not only then does the ball get sent to the hall of fame, but it'll also piss off Barry too. Huzzah! __________________ Talkin' 'bout the issues but keepin' it funky!

09-19-2007, 05:15 PM	#20
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,972	So Bonds called Marc Ecko, the winning bidder and a fashion designer, an idiot today. Typical I didn't know he bought the ball. As a sidenote I wear his clothes all the time. I would pick option one. It is a historical artifact, controversial yes, but still an artifact. We haven't done things like this to the supposed skull of Hitler, have we? Not to compare those two, but that's my point. It bothers me that it could be blasted into spaace the most. The asterisk thing to me is just a grafitti thing that the public wants, which Ecko happens to be a big supporter of. Option One for me