Minor league managers not using players properly?

crafty35a · 03-26-2007, 10:28 PM

I have my game set up so my minor league managers make decisions on their Lineup/Rotation/etc.

However, they don't appear to be using many players properly. For example, my best prospect is a starting pitcher who has been in Single A all year. As of June 1, he has 4 appearances, all in relief, for a total of 4 IP.

Another example: Star relief prospect, also in Single A all year. As of June 1, he has ONE appearance! I even have a SP in single A who has not pitched all year! None of these players have had any injuries, and there are not other players taking their playing time. I only have 5 SP and 4 relievers on the squad (ghost players on).

Has anyone else seen this problem? Any idea what is going on here?

Curtis · 03-27-2007, 12:44 AM

Someone else reported this problem with ghost players. The problem MAY be that these ghosts are better than your prospects, so the managers are giving them more playing time.

Or not.

ravinhood · 03-27-2007, 02:31 AM

Same issue found with me as well. In 6.5a it was they always played your real players first and then used ghost players when needed for things like injuries or fatigue. In 2007 it does appear that something is causing ghost players to override playing more often than regular players. Bug needs fixing I suspect.

crafty35a · 03-27-2007, 11:39 PM

It's really doubt the ghost players were better than the prospects - These were some of my top prospects, and worse players were getting plenty of playing time on the same team. (i.e. a horrid prospect with terrible ratings got plenty of innings, while the good prospect with much better ratings both current and potential got no innings.)

smeared37 · 03-28-2007, 08:51 AM

Three of my fictional league's top five prospects have yet to get a single AB about 18 months after being drafted. I'm not using ghosts and have set my lowest level of minors to "unlimited" size? Is that the problem? Any thoughts?

DCG12 · 03-28-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smeared37

Three of my fictional league's top five prospects have yet to get a single AB about 18 months after being drafted. I'm not using ghosts and have set my lowest level of minors to "unlimited" size? Is that the problem? Any thoughts?

If you haven't already, you might want to go to each minor league teams lineup page and in lower right corner click the action tab and ask the manager to set all lineups and depth charts then do the same for the pitchers i.e. ask mgr to set rotation.

I found that it seems like the manager needs a baseline to get started with and if the depth chart and rotation are not set originally then players won't get used.

I do this at the beginning of the season and anytime I promote/demote players like after the June draft.

smeared37 · 03-28-2007, 09:09 AM

Thanks. Will give that a try. But has anyone come up with a less labour intensive way of fixing this than mucking around with every minor league team individually?

smeared37 · 03-28-2007, 04:45 PM

Actually, would be quite interested in hearing from anyone who has worked out optimum roster sizes at various levels to prevent this sort of thing from happening in first place. But perhaps that's a new thread entirely...

Curtis · 03-30-2007, 06:50 PM

I don't know if they will prevent what you're seeing (I micro-manage my minors), but I use a 24 man roster limit for the major leagues, then add one for each level of minors (I have six levels), so my Rookie teams end up with 30 and my high-A teams with 27.

Edit: Someone else posted that your lowest level of minors should never have less than a 35 man roster limit.

crafty35a · 03-31-2007, 04:57 PM

This problem is single handedly keeping me from enjoying (and now playing at all) this game. I just decided to give it another go with a new season after not playing for a few days. Well, one month into the season I have four SP's on my A ball team, and not a single one of them has made a start.

Funkrocket · 03-31-2007, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crafty35a

This problem is single handedly keeping me from enjoying (and now playing at all) this game. I just decided to give it another go with a new season after not playing for a few days. Well, one month into the season I have four SP's on my A ball team, and not a single one of them has made a start.

So who's making the starts for your A team then? I'm not seeing this problem at all. I have 5 starters on my minor league team, and they take their normal turns in the rotation.

crafty35a · 04-04-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Funkrocket

So who's making the starts for your A team then? I'm not seeing this problem at all. I have 5 starters on my minor league team, and they take their normal turns in the rotation.

I have no idea. I assume ghost players.

Curtis · 04-05-2007, 11:17 PM

So, have you tried posting this in Tech Support?

03-26-2007, 10:28 PM	#1
crafty35a Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 45	Minor league managers not using players properly? I have my game set up so my minor league managers make decisions on their Lineup/Rotation/etc. However, they don't appear to be using many players properly. For example, my best prospect is a starting pitcher who has been in Single A all year. As of June 1, he has 4 appearances, all in relief, for a total of 4 IP. Another example: Star relief prospect, also in Single A all year. As of June 1, he has ONE appearance! I even have a SP in single A who has not pitched all year! None of these players have had any injuries, and there are not other players taking their playing time. I only have 5 SP and 4 relievers on the squad (ghost players on). Has anyone else seen this problem? Any idea what is going on here?

03-30-2007, 06:50 PM	#9
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	I don't know if they will prevent what you're seeing (I micro-manage my minors), but I use a 24 man roster limit for the major leagues, then add one for each level of minors (I have six levels), so my Rookie teams end up with 30 and my high-A teams with 27. Edit: Someone else posted that your lowest level of minors should never have less than a 35 man roster limit. Last edited by Curtis; 04-05-2007 at 11:16 PM. Reason: Caught up on the board.

03-27-2007, 12:44 AM	#2
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	Someone else reported this problem with ghost players. The problem MAY be that these ghosts are better than your prospects, so the managers are giving them more playing time. Or not.

03-27-2007, 02:31 AM	#3
ravinhood Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 374 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Same issue found with me as well. In 6.5a it was they always played your real players first and then used ghost players when needed for things like injuries or fatigue. In 2007 it does appear that something is causing ghost players to override playing more often than regular players. Bug needs fixing I suspect.

03-27-2007, 11:39 PM	#4
crafty35a Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 45	It's really doubt the ghost players were better than the prospects - These were some of my top prospects, and worse players were getting plenty of playing time on the same team. (i.e. a horrid prospect with terrible ratings got plenty of innings, while the good prospect with much better ratings both current and potential got no innings.)

03-28-2007, 08:51 AM	#5
smeared37 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 10	Three of my fictional league's top five prospects have yet to get a single AB about 18 months after being drafted. I'm not using ghosts and have set my lowest level of minors to "unlimited" size? Is that the problem? Any thoughts?

03-28-2007, 09:09 AM	#7
smeared37 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 10	Thanks. Will give that a try. But has anyone come up with a less labour intensive way of fixing this than mucking around with every minor league team individually?

03-28-2007, 04:45 PM	#8
smeared37 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 10	Actually, would be quite interested in hearing from anyone who has worked out optimum roster sizes at various levels to prevent this sort of thing from happening in first place. But perhaps that's a new thread entirely...

03-31-2007, 04:57 PM	#10
crafty35a Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 45	This problem is single handedly keeping me from enjoying (and now playing at all) this game. I just decided to give it another go with a new season after not playing for a few days. Well, one month into the season I have four SP's on my A ball team, and not a single one of them has made a start.

04-05-2007, 11:17 PM	#13
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	So, have you tried posting this in Tech Support?