A-Rod batting 8th

DamnYankees · 10-07-2006, 04:34 PM

That's gotta be great for his confidence. Am I the only one who thinks Torre has completely blown this entire A-Rod thing? It's like he has no idea how to deal with it and listens WAAAYY to much to the mass media and public opinion about it.

dougfireghost · 10-07-2006, 04:38 PM

I don't get this whole A-Rod thing. IMO he's had a very good year.

DamnYankees · 10-07-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dougfireghost

I don't get this whole A-Rod thing. IMO he's had a very good year.

Which is why Torre has been handlingly this horribly.

GForce · 10-07-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DamnYankees

That's gotta be great for his confidence. Am I the only one who thinks Torre has completely blown this entire A-Rod thing? It's like he has no idea how to deal with it and listens WAAAYY to much to the mass media and public opinion about it.

Absolutely. Torre's bright enough to know A-Rod's been getting far more grief than he deserves. But the media and Yankee "fans" have been so ridiculous about the guy that Torre feels he needs to do something to placate them.

Apparently, he concluded sabotage is the best method.

GH

KILLERBS24 · 10-07-2006, 05:22 PM

I wish Arod would just grow a set and tell the fans and the organization to stick it, and demand a trade. He can go elsewhere and win a title before the Yankees ever do it again. Be a man and stick up for yourself ARod.

GForce · 10-07-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

I wish Arod would just grow a set and tell the fans and the organization to stick it, and demand a trade. He can go elsewhere and win a title before the Yankees ever do it again. Be a man and stick up for yourself ARod.

Will never happen. A-Rod is DESPERATE the succeed here. To leave would be, in his eyes, quitting and admitting failing in New York (as silly as that is). If the Yanks approach him about dealing him, he may take it, but there is no way he'll request a trade.

GH

magnet · 10-07-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Will never happen. A-Rod is DESPERATE the succeed here. To leave would be, in his eyes, quitting and admitting failing in New York (as silly as that is). If the Yanks approach him about dealing him, he may take it, but there is no way he'll request a trade.

GH

I can't see someone who wins an MVP at a new position considering himself a failure...

JDOldSchool · 10-07-2006, 06:50 PM

It's annoying how it seems A-Rod is getting the bulk of the blame for the Yankees being 6 outs from going home. You know, it's his fault the Yankees pitch like a bunch of little girls.

GForce · 10-07-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

I can't see someone who wins an MVP at a new position considering himself a failure...

I understand that, but I think at this point the media and fans are so in this guy's head that he's actually bought into some of it, as ridiculous as it is.

GH

CHCfan · 10-07-2006, 07:29 PM

Yeah, I generally avoiding getting in the heads of others - especially pro athletes, who are annoyingly diagnosed and analysed on ESPN - but I nevertheless believe what I hear about A-rod: he's an extra sensitive young man who takes just about everything personally. Who knows, though?

My Cubs will gladly take this headcase off the Yanks' hands

Jason Moyer · 10-07-2006, 07:33 PM

And A Rod is in the ondeck circle as Cano weakly ends the game. Good job there.

yankeesrule · 10-07-2006, 11:10 PM

arods already stated theres no way he's getting traded, that he'll use his no-trade-clause if any deal is done. he's gonna succeed in NY(more get some love from the media cuz he's already succeeded personally) or die trying

QuestGAV · 10-08-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by yankeesrule

arods already stated theres no way he's getting traded, that he'll use his no-trade-clause if any deal is done. he's gonna succeed in NY(more get some love from the media cuz he's already succeeded personally) or die trying

Personally, I wouldn't put alot of stock into what he says.

disposableheros · 10-08-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

It's annoying how it seems A-Rod is getting the bulk of the blame for the Yankees being 6 outs from going home. You know, it's his fault the Yankees pitch like a bunch of little girls.

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Sheff 1-12, 0 BB
Cano 2-15, 0 BB
Damon 4-17, 1 BB, but nothing after game 1

pitching was god awful all the way around (except, maybe Proctor and Wang depending on how you look at it).

really, Jeter and Posada were the only thing going for us.

Detroit got stellar pitching from Rogers, Zumaya, and Bonderman. IMO, thats what did us in.

CommishJoe · 10-08-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by disposableheros

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Sheff 1-12, 0 BB
Cano 2-15, 0 BB
Damon 4-17, 1 BB, but nothing after game 1

pitching was god awful all the way around (except, maybe Proctor and Wang depending on how you look at it).

really, Jeter and Posada were the only thing going for us.

Detroit got stellar pitching from Rogers, Zumaya, and Bonderman. IMO, thats what did us in.

That series was a perfect example of the "great pitching beats great hitting".

thehatfield · 10-08-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Absolutely. Torre's bright enough to know A-Rod's been getting far more grief than he deserves. But the media and Yankee "fans" have been so ridiculous about the guy that Torre feels he needs to do something to placate them.

Apparently, he concluded sabotage is the best method.

GH

I've heard this sabotage argument from Yankee fans and it confuses me. Wasn't Torre dropping him in the lineup to protect him and help keep him loose? Is the psyche of a pro ballplayer so fragile that they cannot perform in a different slot in the batting order? I don't get it.

GForce · 10-08-2006, 05:41 PM

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I've heard this sabotage argument from Yankee fans and it confuses me. Wasn't Torre dropping him in the lineup to protect him and help keep him loose? Is the psyche of a pro ballplayer so fragile that they cannot perform in a different slot in the batting order? I don't get it.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. I called it sabotage because moving A-Rod to the 8-hole is simply a brain-dead move, and the only possible explanations are sabotage or stupidity. I'm no Yankee fan...and insults like that are warnable offenses

GH

Big Hugg · 10-08-2006, 05:46 PM

Torre's constant shuffling of A-Rod did nothing but further fuel the fire and legitimize it to the people who were ripping him. He should have just left him alone to begin with.

1998 Yankees · 10-18-2006, 09:25 PM

I love this multi-quote thing.

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Originally Posted by DamnYankees

That's gotta be great for his confidence. Am I the only one who thinks Torre has completely blown this entire A-Rod thing? It's like he has no idea how to deal with it and listens WAAAYY to much to the mass media and public opinion about it.

Gotta agree with you there, DamnYankees (I typed that without a typo). Joe does not seem to be able to handle sensitive personalities. He does better with Sheffield-types.

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Originally Posted by dougfireghost

I don't get this whole A-Rod thing. IMO he's had a very good year.

Uh, no. Not for him. Usually not in the clutch. And never in the playoffs for the Yankees, when it counts.

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

I wish Arod would just grow a set and tell the fans and the organization to stick it, and demand a trade. He can go elsewhere and win a title before the Yankees ever do it again. Be a man and stick up for yourself ARod.

If he could do this, then he wouldn't have the problem in the first place, do you see?

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

It's annoying how it seems A-Rod is getting the bulk of the blame for the Yankees being 6 outs from going home. You know, it's his fault the Yankees pitch like a bunch of little girls.

I agree with you, too JDOldSchool. A-Rod was a big part of, but by no means the whole, story. Giambi, Sheffield, and Cano one-fers and oh-fers did not help, benching Cabrera for the 10-day-course first baseman Sheffield took energy out of the team, and there's no way you win a championship with 50/50 Mussina, over-40 Johnson, and just plain lousy Wright and Lidle (God rest him) as 4/5 of your starting rotation. I'm just happy that Farnsworth did not have a chance to throw any games away - I don't have to buy a new television now.

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Originally Posted by GForce

I understand that, but I think at this point the media and fans are so in this guy's head that he's actually bought into some of it, as ridiculous as it is.

GH

That's right; that's why it's irretrievable at this point.

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My Cubs will gladly take this headcase off the Yanks' hands

You can have him (for return value, of course). He'd love it with Piniella in charge now.

mikev · 10-18-2006, 09:52 PM

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I agree with you, too JDOldSchool. A-Rod was a big part of, but by no means the whole, story. Giambi, Sheffield, and Cano one-fers and oh-fers did not help,

Yet, you still pile on just like all the other Yankee fans.

A-Rod was a big part of them not winning, but he hit 6th and 8th. The 3/4/5 hitters in the order did jack squat. Damon did jack squat. Everybody not named Posada and Jeter did jack squat. Somehow, though, A-Rod is a big part of the problem and the other guys sucking ass "did not help"

10-07-2006, 04:34 PM	#1
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	A-Rod batting 8th That's gotta be great for his confidence. Am I the only one who thinks Torre has completely blown this entire A-Rod thing? It's like he has no idea how to deal with it and listens WAAAYY to much to the mass media and public opinion about it.

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dougfireghost Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: houston Posts: 129	I don't get this whole A-Rod thing. IMO he's had a very good year. __________________ e

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KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	I wish Arod would just grow a set and tell the fans and the organization to stick it, and demand a trade. He can go elsewhere and win a title before the Yankees ever do it again. Be a man and stick up for yourself ARod. __________________ Asterisked legacy: Barry Bonds, the greatest steroid user ever

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Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,106	And A Rod is in the ondeck circle as Cano weakly ends the game. Good job there. __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

10-07-2006, 06:50 PM	#8
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	It's annoying how it seems A-Rod is getting the bulk of the blame for the Yankees being 6 outs from going home. You know, it's his fault the Yankees pitch like a bunch of little girls.

10-07-2006, 07:29 PM	#10
CHCfan All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Grand Island, NE Posts: 1,117	Yeah, I generally avoiding getting in the heads of others - especially pro athletes, who are annoyingly diagnosed and analysed on ESPN - but I nevertheless believe what I hear about A-rod: he's an extra sensitive young man who takes just about everything personally. Who knows, though? My Cubs will gladly take this headcase off the Yanks' hands

10-07-2006, 11:10 PM	#12
yankeesrule All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,367	arods already stated theres no way he's getting traded, that he'll use his no-trade-clause if any deal is done. he's gonna succeed in NY(more get some love from the media cuz he's already succeeded personally) or die trying

10-08-2006, 05:46 PM	#18
Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	Torre's constant shuffling of A-Rod did nothing but further fuel the fire and legitimize it to the people who were ripping him. He should have just left him alone to begin with.