Real World Quickstart Project

andymac · 06-02-2006, 12:16 PM

I am starting a project that will try to set up the world baseball leagues so that they interact as close to real life as possible. The in-game default leagues aren't set up very well financially which is the main reason I am doing this. I'll post my progress (and the eventual quickstart file) here in this thread.

Here is a list of the leagues I am definitely going to include...feel free to suggest any other leagues which you would like to see.

Major League Baseball (w/minor leagues)
[league redacted] (w/farm league)
Dominican Summer League*
Mexican League
Puerto Rican League
Korean Baseball Organization
Chinese Professional Baseball (i.e. Taiwanese League)
China Baseball League
Cuban Baseball League
Venezuelan Summer League*

*These are actually developmental leagues working with MLB in "real life", but there isn't a way to set that up in the game. So, what I will likely do is just make sure that the financials & free agency are set up in a way that MLB quality players will likely be signed by MLB teams pretty quickly. (this will obviously takes some testing).

Right now I am testing [league redacted]. I probably won't have any results for anyone until Sunday night at the earliest though (heading to St. Louis for Cub/Cardinals weekend series).

I welcome any questions/comments.

tward13 · 06-02-2006, 12:25 PM

Will this include one of the roster sets people here are working on, or will it be your own?

andymac · 06-02-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tward13

Will this include one of the roster sets people here are working on, or will it be your own?

I was planning on it being fictional players. However, it may be possible to include other peoples rosters sets also...I won't be doing any rosters myself though.

sean-patin · 06-02-2006, 01:35 PM

are you going to edit stadium info/dimensions?

andymac · 06-02-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean-patin

are you going to edit stadium info/dimensions?

I will where I can find them...I'll definitely be changing the MLB (and minors) to their correct park factors. Foreign league park factors may have to be generic unless anybody knows of a decent way of figuring those out.

andymac · 06-02-2006, 01:47 PM

Does anybody know where I can find some league totals for the 2005 Nippon season? I have found numbers from 2003 and earlier, but not the last couple years.

sean-patin · 06-02-2006, 01:56 PM

this might help.... http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/stats.html

andymac · 06-02-2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean-patin

this might help.... http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/stats.html

Yea, I found that site, but it doesn't give any season totals for the past couple of seasons (just through 2003). I guess I'll just go by what it gives me there.

blackrussian · 06-02-2006, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andymac

Yea, I found that site, but it doesn't give any season totals for the past couple of seasons (just through 2003). I guess I'll just go by what it gives me there.

http://www.japanbaseballdaily.com/pe...ace2005PL.html
http://www.japanbaseballdaily.com/pe...ace2005PL.html

other good stuff at this site. those are the league totals for central and pacific league 2005 seasons.

andymac · 06-02-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackrussian

http://www.japanbaseballdaily.com/pe...ace2005PL.html
http://www.japanbaseballdaily.com/pe...ace2005PL.html

other good stuff at this site. those are the league totals for central and pacific league 2005 seasons.

Awesome...thanks!

andymac · 06-02-2006, 05:57 PM

Here are my tentative player creation modifiers for the Japanese League.

Code:

Batting Contact		0.945
Batting Gap Power	0.918
Batting Power		0.947
Batting Eye		0.910
Batting Avoid K's	0.976
Pitching Stuff		0.924
Pitching Movement	0.953
Pitching Control	0.990
Running Speed		0.866
Fielding Ratings	1.000

MorseMoose · 06-02-2006, 06:51 PM

I'd like to see some Independent Leagues in the U.S.

Bobbuttons · 06-02-2006, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andymac

Here are my tentative player creation modifiers for the Japanese League.

Code:

Batting Contact		0.945
Batting Gap Power	0.918
Batting Power		0.947
Batting Eye		0.910
Batting Avoid K's	0.976
Pitching Stuff		0.924
Pitching Movement	0.953
Pitching Control	0.990
Running Speed		0.866
Fielding Ratings	1.000

Don't forget to change the name of the Pitching Award to the Sawamura Award.

fauteuil7 · 06-05-2006, 07:02 PM

Thank you for the great idea and the hard work going into it.

From my understanding there's no way to save a quickstart before the league is created so the settings and details will be the same but you can apply them to different roster sets. Is this correct? This type of detail might get me interested in playing a fictional universe even though it's not what I'm used to, but I would love to be able to use these kind of details (particularly in the minor and foreign leagues) with historical players.

andymac · 06-05-2006, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fauteuil7

Thank you for the great idea and the hard work going into it.

From my understanding there's no way to save a quickstart before the league is created so the settings and details will be the same but you can apply them to different roster sets. Is this correct?

That is correct. What I will probably do is post all of the "details" here in the forum so that anyone can mix and match what they want and also post a file with all of them together. I'm getting pretty close to being happy with the Japanese League...might have something to post tonight.

fauteuil7 · 06-05-2006, 07:11 PM

Excellent, I'm looking forward to seeing your results.

Jordan · 06-05-2006, 09:00 PM

andy, do you know how easy it would be to integrate real life rosters into your project?

Matty86 · 06-05-2006, 10:36 PM

any chance i could convince you to create the CAN-AM as well? its only a 8 team league i believe..

Scott Vibert · 06-06-2006, 08:45 PM

Here are the settings I'm using, I have created a quick start with these settings, but didn't have a host for them:

Below is what I had suggested for the Cuban League.

Rules Tab:
Sub League 1 Designated Hitter Rule: Enabled
Sub League 2 Designated Hitter Rule: Enabled

Active Roster Size: 25
Foreign Player Limit: As low as possible (1 - Current 0 - Ideal)
Foreign Pitcher Limit: As low as possible (1 - Current 0 - Ideal)
Foreign Hitter Limit: As low as possible (1 - Current 0 - Ideal)
Expanded Roster Size: 30
Roster Expansion Date: After the Season Ends
Secondary (40-Man) Roster Size: Rule Disabled
Minimum Days of Service for one Service Year: 100

Player Trades: Disabled

Historical Rookies Options: Disabled

Amateur Draft: Disabled

Average Attendence per Game: 6610 (Sampled 10 days worth of games 3 in the beginning, 4 in the middle, 3 in the end and took the average for this quick estimate)
Average Ticket Price: As low as possible ($1 - Current)
Financial System: Either (No strong feelings can be disabled)
Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: No Free Agency
Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Disabled
Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration
Average Media Contract: $0
Media Contract Fixed: Yes
Salary Cap: $0
Team Owner controls Budget? Yes
Revenue Sharing: No
Average Coach: 3500
Minimum Player: 1825
Superstar: 3650
Star: 3415
Good: 3180
Above Average: 2945
Average: 2710
Below Average: 2485
Fair: 2150
Poor: 1825

Options:
Schedule Spring Training: Enabled

Season Start Date: 15th November 2006
Force Start Certain Weekday: Friday
Auto adjust date if matching XML schedule found: Enabled
Number of Games per Team: 90
Schedule Balance: Enabled
Select Typical Series Length: 3 Games
Interleague Play: Enabled

Hold Allstar Game: Enabled
Automatically Scheudle Allstar Game: Enabled

Split Season Format: Disabled
Playoff Mode: Division Winners plus Wildcard(s) qualify
Number of Wildcards: 2
Number of Playoff Rounds: 3
Name of Round 1: (Not Important)
Best Of in Round 1: 5
Name of Round 2: (Not Important)
Best Of in Round 2: 7
Name of Round 3: (Not Important)
Best Of in Round 3: 7

Foreigner Percentage: 0

Recommend the following team abbreviations - Plus the following City Locations:

Isla de Juventud - IJV - City: Nueva Gerona
Metropolitanos - MET - City: Havanna
Matanzas - MTZ - City: Matanzas
Pinar del Rio - PRI - City: Pinar del Rio
Cienfuegos - CFG - City: Cienfuegos
Habana - HAB - City: San José de las Lajas
Industriales - IND - City: Havanna
Sancti Spiritus - SSP - City: Sancti Spíritus
Ciego del Avila - CAV - City: Ciego de Avila
Camaguey - CMG - City: Camagüey
Las Tunas - LTU - City: Las Tunas
Villa Clara - VCL - City: Santa Clara
Granma - GRA - City: Bayamo
Guantanamo - GTM - City: Guantanamo
Holguin - HOL - City: Holguín
Santiago de Cuba - SCU - City: Santiago de Cuba

Scott Vibert · 06-06-2006, 08:46 PM

Below are my suggestions for the Mexican Summer League (Feel free to correct mistakes!)

Rules Tab:
Sub League 1 Designated Hitter Rule: Enabled

Active Roster Size: 28
Foreign Player Limit: 5
Foreign Pitcher Limit: No Limit
Foreign Hitter Limit: No Limit
Expanded Roster Size: Rule Disabled
Roster Expansion Date: Irrelevant
Secondary (40-Man) Roster Size: Rule Disabled
Minimum Days of Service for one Service Year: 125

Player Trades: Enabled
Trading Deadline Date: 30th June 2006 (Estimated)
Trades with other Major Leagues: Enabled
Allow Draft Pick Trading: Disabled

Historical Rookies Options: Disabled

Amateur Draft: Disabled

Average Attendence per Game: 4725 (Taken from current Mexican League Attendence)
Average Ticket Price: $2
Financial System: On
Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: 1 Year (Players must be sold/traded to leave the league)
Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Enabled
Free Agents may leave this league: Enabled
Draft Pick Compensation for lost Free Agents: Disabled
Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration
Average Media Contract: $100,000
Media Contract Fixed: Yes
Salary Cap: $0
Team Owner controls Budget? Yes
Revenue Sharing: No
Average Coach: 42000
Minimum Player: 25000 (Abstracted from article)
Superstar: 100000 (From article)
Star: 85000
Good: 75000 (From article)
Above Average: 65000
Average: 50000 (Abstracted from article)
Below Average: 42000
Fair: 35000
Poor: 25000

Options:
Schedule Spring Training: Enabled

Season Start Date: 19th March 2006
Force Start Certain Weekday: Tuesday
Auto adjust date if matching XML schedule found: Enabled
Number of Games per Team: 110
Schedule Balance: Disabled
Select Typical Series Length: 3 Games

Hold Allstar Game: Enabled
Automatically Scheudle Allstar Game: Enabled

Split Season Format: Enabled
Number of Playoff Rounds: 2
Name of Round 1: (Not Important)
Best Of in Round 1: 7
Name of Round 2: (Not Important)
Best Of in Round 2: 7

Foreigner Percentage: 10

06-02-2006, 12:16 PM	#1
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	Real World Quickstart Project I am starting a project that will try to set up the world baseball leagues so that they interact as close to real life as possible. The in-game default leagues aren't set up very well financially which is the main reason I am doing this. I'll post my progress (and the eventual quickstart file) here in this thread. Here is a list of the leagues I am definitely going to include...feel free to suggest any other leagues which you would like to see. Major League Baseball (w/minor leagues) [league redacted] (w/farm league) Dominican Summer League* Mexican League Puerto Rican League Korean Baseball Organization Chinese Professional Baseball (i.e. Taiwanese League) China Baseball League Cuban Baseball League Venezuelan Summer League* These are actually developmental leagues working with MLB in "real life", but there isn't a way to set that up in the game. So, what I will likely do is just make sure that the financials & free agency are set up in a way that MLB quality players will likely be signed by MLB teams pretty quickly. (this will obviously takes some testing). Right now I am testing [league redacted]. I probably won't have any results for anyone until Sunday night at the earliest though (heading to St. Louis for Cub/Cardinals weekend series). I welcome any questions/comments. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac Last edited by andymac; 06-02-2006 at 12:18 PM.*

06-02-2006, 01:47 PM	#6
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	Does anybody know where I can find some league totals for the 2005 Nippon season? I have found numbers from 2003 and earlier, but not the last couple years. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

06-02-2006, 05:57 PM	#11
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	Here are my tentative player creation modifiers for the Japanese League. Code: Batting Contact 0.945 Batting Gap Power 0.918 Batting Power 0.947 Batting Eye 0.910 Batting Avoid K's 0.976 Pitching Stuff 0.924 Pitching Movement 0.953 Pitching Control 0.990 Running Speed 0.866 Fielding Ratings 1.000 __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac Last edited by andymac; 06-02-2006 at 06:00 PM.

06-02-2006, 12:25 PM	#2
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	Will this include one of the roster sets people here are working on, or will it be your own?

06-02-2006, 01:35 PM	#4
sean-patin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 205	are you going to edit stadium info/dimensions?

06-02-2006, 01:56 PM	#7
sean-patin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 205	this might help.... http://baseballguru.com/jalbright/stats.html

06-02-2006, 06:51 PM	#12
MorseMoose Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,023 Infractions: 1/1 (1)	I'd like to see some Independent Leagues in the U.S.

06-05-2006, 07:02 PM	#14
fauteuil7 Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 356	Thank you for the great idea and the hard work going into it. From my understanding there's no way to save a quickstart before the league is created so the settings and details will be the same but you can apply them to different roster sets. Is this correct? This type of detail might get me interested in playing a fictional universe even though it's not what I'm used to, but I would love to be able to use these kind of details (particularly in the minor and foreign leagues) with historical players.

06-05-2006, 07:11 PM	#16
fauteuil7 Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 356	Excellent, I'm looking forward to seeing your results.

06-05-2006, 09:00 PM	#17
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,995	andy, do you know how easy it would be to integrate real life rosters into your project?

06-05-2006, 10:36 PM	#18
Matty86 Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 401	any chance i could convince you to create the CAN-AM as well? its only a 8 team league i believe..

06-06-2006, 08:45 PM	#19
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,212	Here are the settings I'm using, I have created a quick start with these settings, but didn't have a host for them: Below is what I had suggested for the Cuban League. Rules Tab: Sub League 1 Designated Hitter Rule: Enabled Sub League 2 Designated Hitter Rule: Enabled Active Roster Size: 25 Foreign Player Limit: As low as possible (1 - Current 0 - Ideal) Foreign Pitcher Limit: As low as possible (1 - Current 0 - Ideal) Foreign Hitter Limit: As low as possible (1 - Current 0 - Ideal) Expanded Roster Size: 30 Roster Expansion Date: After the Season Ends Secondary (40-Man) Roster Size: Rule Disabled Minimum Days of Service for one Service Year: 100 Player Trades: Disabled Historical Rookies Options: Disabled Amateur Draft: Disabled Average Attendence per Game: 6610 (Sampled 10 days worth of games 3 in the beginning, 4 in the middle, 3 in the end and took the average for this quick estimate) Average Ticket Price: As low as possible ($1 - Current) Financial System: Either (No strong feelings can be disabled) Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: No Free Agency Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Disabled Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration Average Media Contract: $0 Media Contract Fixed: Yes Salary Cap: $0 Team Owner controls Budget? Yes Revenue Sharing: No Average Coach: 3500 Minimum Player: 1825 Superstar: 3650 Star: 3415 Good: 3180 Above Average: 2945 Average: 2710 Below Average: 2485 Fair: 2150 Poor: 1825 Options: Schedule Spring Training: Enabled Season Start Date: 15th November 2006 Force Start Certain Weekday: Friday Auto adjust date if matching XML schedule found: Enabled Number of Games per Team: 90 Schedule Balance: Enabled Select Typical Series Length: 3 Games Interleague Play: Enabled Hold Allstar Game: Enabled Automatically Scheudle Allstar Game: Enabled Split Season Format: Disabled Playoff Mode: Division Winners plus Wildcard(s) qualify Number of Wildcards: 2 Number of Playoff Rounds: 3 Name of Round 1: (Not Important) Best Of in Round 1: 5 Name of Round 2: (Not Important) Best Of in Round 2: 7 Name of Round 3: (Not Important) Best Of in Round 3: 7 Foreigner Percentage: 0 Recommend the following team abbreviations - Plus the following City Locations: Isla de Juventud - IJV - City: Nueva Gerona Metropolitanos - MET - City: Havanna Matanzas - MTZ - City: Matanzas Pinar del Rio - PRI - City: Pinar del Rio Cienfuegos - CFG - City: Cienfuegos Habana - HAB - City: San José de las Lajas Industriales - IND - City: Havanna Sancti Spiritus - SSP - City: Sancti Spíritus Ciego del Avila - CAV - City: Ciego de Avila Camaguey - CMG - City: Camagüey Las Tunas - LTU - City: Las Tunas Villa Clara - VCL - City: Santa Clara Granma - GRA - City: Bayamo Guantanamo - GTM - City: Guantanamo Holguin - HOL - City: Holguín Santiago de Cuba - SCU - City: Santiago de Cuba

06-06-2006, 08:46 PM	#20
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,212	Below are my suggestions for the Mexican Summer League (Feel free to correct mistakes!) Rules Tab: Sub League 1 Designated Hitter Rule: Enabled Active Roster Size: 28 Foreign Player Limit: 5 Foreign Pitcher Limit: No Limit Foreign Hitter Limit: No Limit Expanded Roster Size: Rule Disabled Roster Expansion Date: Irrelevant Secondary (40-Man) Roster Size: Rule Disabled Minimum Days of Service for one Service Year: 125 Player Trades: Enabled Trading Deadline Date: 30th June 2006 (Estimated) Trades with other Major Leagues: Enabled Allow Draft Pick Trading: Disabled Historical Rookies Options: Disabled Amateur Draft: Disabled Average Attendence per Game: 4725 (Taken from current Mexican League Attendence) Average Ticket Price: $2 Financial System: On Minimum Service Years for Free Agency: 1 Year (Players must be sold/traded to leave the league) Free Agents from other Leagues can be Signed: Enabled Free Agents may leave this league: Enabled Draft Pick Compensation for lost Free Agents: Disabled Minimum Service Years for Salary Arbitration: No Arbitration Average Media Contract: $100,000 Media Contract Fixed: Yes Salary Cap: $0 Team Owner controls Budget? Yes Revenue Sharing: No Average Coach: 42000 Minimum Player: 25000 (Abstracted from article) Superstar: 100000 (From article) Star: 85000 Good: 75000 (From article) Above Average: 65000 Average: 50000 (Abstracted from article) Below Average: 42000 Fair: 35000 Poor: 25000 Options: Schedule Spring Training: Enabled Season Start Date: 19th March 2006 Force Start Certain Weekday: Tuesday Auto adjust date if matching XML schedule found: Enabled Number of Games per Team: 110 Schedule Balance: Disabled Select Typical Series Length: 3 Games Hold Allstar Game: Enabled Automatically Scheudle Allstar Game: Enabled Split Season Format: Enabled Number of Playoff Rounds: 2 Name of Round 1: (Not Important) Best Of in Round 1: 7 Name of Round 2: (Not Important) Best Of in Round 2: 7 Foreigner Percentage: 10