Increasing Endurance in a Pitcher?...

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 09:34 PM

Just need a bit of help...I am a long-time OOTP fan/player, but am still getting used to 2006. If anyone could offer some help here I'd really appreciate it.

My Providence Predators (replacing the Tampa Day Devil Rays in a quasi-fictional league) drafted Travis Gonzalez as a SUPER-STAR closer...but he has a decent amount of stamina and is only 19. I am hoping to try to increase his endurance and raise him to be a starter. CAn anyone tell me how to do that? I know in Spring trainging in previous OOTPs you could train him in endurance and switch him over, is that how it works now? Can anyone tell me the exact process to do this task? Thanks all. (I alreayd know how to set his position)

Raidergoo · 06-11-2006, 09:35 PM

Not recommended.

fantom1979 · 06-11-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Not recommended.

Just curious. Why not? Will he not gain endurance? Will it hurt his potiental? I have a middle reliever I was thinking of doing this to.

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 09:42 PM

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fantom1979 · 06-11-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertKak

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Raidergoo · 06-11-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fantom1979

Just curious. Why not? Will he not gain endurance? Will it hurt his potiental? I have a middle reliever I was thinking of doing this to.

I will not comment on the matter further. Sorry, I am uncomfortable with discussion on this issue.

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 10:06 PM

Bump, can anyone help?

bababui · 06-11-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

I will not comment on the matter further. Sorry, I am uncomfortable with discussion on this issue.

Why? Is it a national security issue?

Its possible to go into Commisioner Mode and edit a pitchers endurance.

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 10:26 PM

I don't really want to go that route. I'd rather do it (or fail to do it) within the confines of the game.

bababui · 06-11-2006, 10:27 PM

It looks like that is not possible as the game is configured now.

molarmite · 06-11-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

I will not comment on the matter further. Sorry, I am uncomfortable with discussion on this issue.

What's wrong with this issue that you can't even discuss it?

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 10:35 PM

Anyone else? I'd love some advice here....not to be a pain in the arse.

William4192 · 06-11-2006, 10:41 PM

great question, i'd like an answer too

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Raidergoo · 06-11-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Why? Is it a national security issue?

No, it is an NDA matter.

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 11:34 PM

Its gotta be possible.. maybe its as simple as making him a starter and forcing him to get stronger and more stamina..who knows.

mrbill · 06-11-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertKak

Its gotta be possible.. maybe its as simple as making him a starter and forcing him to get stronger and more stamina..who knows.

There were many discussions about how it should work, and this makes sense from a baseball approach, but OOTP historically hasn't worked quite that smoothly (you have to teach it in ST in past versions).

But, the fact that its "NDA" or something means they're probably discussing either how imminently close they are to having this approach implemented or how F'ed they are that there's no way to train a reliever to increase endurance because the old ST is gone.

RobertKak · 06-11-2006, 11:56 PM

My apologies..but what does NDA mean?

In my opinion, this is an important issue. As a Red Sox fan in real life I know that kids that were closers or relievers in College can sometimes earn the stamina and convert to starters (Papelbon, LEster). Something must be done in the next patch or something. Maybe it could be like I said, force a young arm into the starting role and, if he's is coded to handle it, watch his stamina increase. The increase doesnt always need to be great and could be tied to his work ethic among other 'intangibles'...also some pitchers could simply not be able to.
Just an idea.

mrbill · 06-11-2006, 11:57 PM

Means "non disclosure agreement", something he's under contract not to tell us or he'll be in trouble.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=117024

This thread is 100+ posts long discussing how this should be implemented, exactly on this topic. Feel free to browse and add anything not mentioned already there.

RobertKak · 06-12-2006, 12:01 AM

wow, thanks man. hopefully a solution is in order.

06-11-2006, 09:34 PM	#1
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	Increasing Endurance in a Pitcher?... Just need a bit of help...I am a long-time OOTP fan/player, but am still getting used to 2006. If anyone could offer some help here I'd really appreciate it. My Providence Predators (replacing the Tampa Day Devil Rays in a quasi-fictional league) drafted Travis Gonzalez as a SUPER-STAR closer...but he has a decent amount of stamina and is only 19. I am hoping to try to increase his endurance and raise him to be a starter. CAn anyone tell me how to do that? I know in Spring trainging in previous OOTPs you could train him in endurance and switch him over, is that how it works now? Can anyone tell me the exact process to do this task? Thanks all. (I alreayd know how to set his position) __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989

06-11-2006, 09:42 PM	#4
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	, __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989 Last edited by RobertKak; 06-11-2006 at 09:44 PM.

06-11-2006, 10:06 PM	#7
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	Bump, can anyone help? __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989

06-11-2006, 10:26 PM	#9
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	I don't really want to go that route. I'd rather do it (or fail to do it) within the confines of the game. __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989

06-11-2006, 10:35 PM	#12
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	Anyone else? I'd love some advice here....not to be a pain in the arse. __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989

06-11-2006, 09:35 PM	#2
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	Not recommended.

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bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	It looks like that is not possible as the game is configured now.

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06-11-2006, 11:34 PM	#15
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	Its gotta be possible.. maybe its as simple as making him a starter and forcing him to get stronger and more stamina..who knows. __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989

06-11-2006, 11:56 PM	#17
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	My apologies..but what does NDA mean? In my opinion, this is an important issue. As a Red Sox fan in real life I know that kids that were closers or relievers in College can sometimes earn the stamina and convert to starters (Papelbon, LEster). Something must be done in the next patch or something. Maybe it could be like I said, force a young arm into the starting role and, if he's is coded to handle it, watch his stamina increase. The increase doesnt always need to be great and could be tied to his work ethic among other 'intangibles'...also some pitchers could simply not be able to. Just an idea. __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989

06-11-2006, 11:57 PM	#18
mrbill All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LA, CA Posts: 982	Means "non disclosure agreement", something he's under contract not to tell us or he'll be in trouble. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=117024 This thread is 100+ posts long discussing how this should be implemented, exactly on this topic. Feel free to browse and add anything not mentioned already there. __________________ UBL - Best Online League Evar! - Los Angeles Dodgers: 25 seasons, 13 NL West titles, 4 WC, 8 NL Titles, 5-time Champs LBB v5 league (retired) - Detroit Tigers/Commish: 19 seasons, 18 straight AL Central titles, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015 Champs! NGBL v6 league (dead) - Texas Rangers: 10 seasons, 4 AL South titles, 2 Wild Cards, one WS app

06-12-2006, 12:01 AM	#19
RobertKak Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108	wow, thanks man. hopefully a solution is in order. __________________ NMWL ______________________________ "The one constant through all the years has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and what could be again." -Terrance Mann (James Earl Jones) Field of Dreams 1989