Possibility to work your way up to the bigs?

mooreadamc · 05-22-2006, 12:49 PM

I posted this in the other forum but only got 11 looks so I thought it might do better here:

I'm not sure if this is in the feature list but wanted to ask the forums just to make sure.

I have played the SI products NHL:EHM and FM2006 and one of the features I enjoy is that you can move to different teams either on your own or if you get fired. Will this be possible in OOTP? Could I begin as a AA manager and work my way up to the pros?

Thanks and sorry if this has been asked.

Muppetus Galacticus · 05-22-2006, 01:01 PM

You sure can

battists · 05-22-2006, 01:13 PM

You can, but it's not the fanciest functionality.

Basically, you can start at any level you choose. If you get fired, you're dumped into the "free agent pool" and forced to await another opening. The better you do, the more likely you are to get offered higher positions. The worse you do, the longer you will have to sit before a position is offered!

But, in this version, you cannot get "promoted up the chain." For example, if you start in Rookie ball, your team will not offer to promote you to Single-A, and then Double-A, and so forth.

I believe/hope Markus will have the chance to expand on this in the next version.

mooreadamc · 05-22-2006, 01:17 PM

Thanks, looking forward to it

Riverdome · 05-22-2006, 01:27 PM

So you can get "promoted" but only after you have been fired? I'm all for baby steps but this one is a little odd.

Muppetus Galacticus · 05-22-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverdome

So you can get "promoted" but only after you have been fired? I'm all for baby steps but this one is a little odd.

Certainly is a little different.

PSUColonel · 05-22-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverdome

So you can get "promoted" but only after you have been fired? I'm all for baby steps but this one is a little odd.

I agree...any possibility of fixing this? I don't care if the release is delayed, this is a very important part of the game. Why did they just not design it the way it's done in FM?

swishbish33 · 05-22-2006, 01:49 PM

I'm trying to think of managers that move straight from managing in the minors to a manager's position in the bigs. For the most part, aren't guys either hitting coaches, pitching coaches, ex-players, or retreads? You just don't hear of a lot of guys moving from AAA manager to the big leagues. But maybe I am mistaken.

kingcharlesxii · 05-22-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverdome

So you can get "promoted" but only after you have been fired? I'm all for baby steps but this one is a little odd.

You can always resign from your position if you think you could get a better job.

PSUColonel · 05-22-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kingcharlesxii

You can always resign from your position if you think you could get a better job.

Yes, but honestly, this is seemingly not implemented very well. In CM, you can apply for vacant jobs at any time.

Bluenoser · 05-22-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Yes, but honestly, this is seemingly not implemented very well. In CM, you can apply for vacant jobs at any time.

I can't remember the last time I saw a minor league manager applying for the ML job mid season, or anytime for that matter.

Mattymo · 05-22-2006, 02:40 PM

I'm sure you won't have to resign from your job, as your contract will eventually run out and you can look for other options.

It'd be nice in this version, or in a future one, if you got offers while still with a certain club. Say, during August, an owner from another club sent out "feelers" to see how interested you were in moving, etc.

Bluenoser · 05-22-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattymo

It'd be nice in this version, or in a future one, if you got offers while still with a certain club. Say, during August, an owner from another club sent out "feelers" to see how interested you were in moving, etc.

I hope we can get a League Tampering rule with heavy fines to go along with this idea

, since in real baseball you need permission to talk to some who's still under contract.

PSUColonel · 05-22-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

I can't remember the last time I saw a minor league manager applying for the ML job mid season, or anytime for that matter.

How about a A manager becoming a AA one?

PSUColonel · 05-22-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

How about a A manager becoming a AA one?

Will players move up or down within the same organization?

Bluenoser · 05-22-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUColonel

How about a A manager becoming a AA one?

The decision to move a manager up or down comes from the Top. At least it has in any case I can remember.

Riverdome · 05-22-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattymo

I'm sure you won't have to resign from your job, as your contract will eventually run out and you can look for other options.

I thought of the contract running out idea but I don't think it works that way. Remember you are the GM so I don't think you have a contract. Can anyone confirm this one way or the other?

Resigning from your job is a descent solution. Not ideal, especially if you end up not getting the promotion you were looking for. But it's better than having to tank a season, hope to get fired, and then expect a promotion. That was how I originally thought it worked.

PSUColonel · 05-22-2006, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

The decision to move a manager up or down comes from the Top. At least it has in any case I can remember.

Why would this matter if you are managing a minor league team, or for computer controlled staff?

Joe Canadian · 05-22-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

You can, but it's not the fanciest functionality.

Basically, you can start at any level you choose. If you get fired, you're dumped into the "free agent pool" and forced to await another opening. The better you do, the more likely you are to get offered higher positions. The worse you do, the longer you will have to sit before a position is offered!

But, in this version, you cannot get "promoted up the chain." For example, if you start in Rookie ball, your team will not offer to promote you to Single-A, and then Double-A, and so forth.

I believe/hope Markus will have the chance to expand on this in the next version.

Can you turn this off, so you can jump between jobs freely?

Mattymo · 05-22-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverdome

I thought of the contract running out idea but I don't think it works that way. Remember you are the GM so I don't think you have a contract. Can anyone confirm this one way or the other?

Resigning from your job is a descent solution. Not ideal, especially if you end up not getting the promotion you were looking for. But it's better than having to tank a season, hope to get fired, and then expect a promotion. That was how I originally thought it worked.

I think you might be wrong there. It's not true that you are the GM. You CAN be the GM, but you don't have to be. If you are the manager of a minor league club, you have no control over any GM responsibilities (player movement, etc.)

05-22-2006, 12:49 PM	#1
mooreadamc Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 146	Possibility to work your way up to the bigs? I posted this in the other forum but only got 11 looks so I thought it might do better here: I'm not sure if this is in the feature list but wanted to ask the forums just to make sure. I have played the SI products NHL:EHM and FM2006 and one of the features I enjoy is that you can move to different teams either on your own or if you get fired. Will this be possible in OOTP? Could I begin as a AA manager and work my way up to the pros? Thanks and sorry if this has been asked.

05-22-2006, 01:27 PM	#5
Riverdome All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 964	So you can get "promoted" but only after you have been fired? I'm all for baby steps but this one is a little odd. __________________ I was at the first OOTP Conference, where were you?..........

05-22-2006, 01:13 PM	#3
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	You can, but it's not the fanciest functionality. Basically, you can start at any level you choose. If you get fired, you're dumped into the "free agent pool" and forced to await another opening. The better you do, the more likely you are to get offered higher positions. The worse you do, the longer you will have to sit before a position is offered! But, in this version, you cannot get "promoted up the chain." For example, if you start in Rookie ball, your team will not offer to promote you to Single-A, and then Double-A, and so forth. I believe/hope Markus will have the chance to expand on this in the next version.

05-22-2006, 01:17 PM	#4
mooreadamc Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 146	Thanks, looking forward to it

05-22-2006, 01:49 PM	#8
swishbish33 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 117	I'm trying to think of managers that move straight from managing in the minors to a manager's position in the bigs. For the most part, aren't guys either hitting coaches, pitching coaches, ex-players, or retreads? You just don't hear of a lot of guys moving from AAA manager to the big leagues. But maybe I am mistaken.

05-22-2006, 02:40 PM	#12
Mattymo All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colchester, CT Posts: 1,448	I'm sure you won't have to resign from your job, as your contract will eventually run out and you can look for other options. It'd be nice in this version, or in a future one, if you got offers while still with a certain club. Say, during August, an owner from another club sent out "feelers" to see how interested you were in moving, etc.