Best ACC player ever?

His Own Bad Self · 02-28-2006, 10:32 AM

One of my boys and I were talking hoops yesterday. He told me that if Duke wins the NCAA title this year, J.J. Redick should be considered the greatest player in ACC history. I immediately asked him why, considering the ACC isn't exactly lacking for great players. He used J.J.'s new all-time conference scoring record and the aforementioned possible championship as justification, with the addition that J.J. staying all four years plays an important part in that.

I found a listing of the ACC players of the year through history and saw names like David Thompson, Ralph Sampson, Jordan, Len Bias, Danny Ferry, Laettner, Grant Hill, Tim Duncan, and Shane Battier. I came to the conclusion that I could probably put him in the top 5, maybe, considering that Redick is going to be a two-time ACC player of the year, and probably a national player of the year, as well. My top 3 guys, however, are Sampson, Duncan, and Hill.

Let me be the first to get this out of the way: "This should have been a poll." There. That's done. OK, what do y'all think?

abailey3313 · 02-28-2006, 10:35 AM

My biased opinion is Antawn Jamison.

His Own Bad Self · 02-28-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by abailey3313

My biased opinion is Antawn Jamison.

I assumed you would go the UNC route, but over Jordan and Worthy?

Sublimity · 02-28-2006, 10:45 AM

As much as I hate to say it... Charlie Ward. I mean, he won a Heisman. That's pretty good.

Joshv02 · 02-28-2006, 10:47 AM

Bias or . . . Walt the Wizzard.

enuttage · 02-28-2006, 10:49 AM

Deion Sanders?

enuttage · 02-28-2006, 10:50 AM

Here's an article on this very thing:

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/411584.html

abailey3313 · 02-28-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

I assumed you would go the UNC route, but over Jordan and Worthy?

No, Jordan and Worthy are both above Jamison. It just so happens he's my favorite player to ever put on a UNC uniform, so like I said -- pure bias.

Sublimity · 02-28-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by abailey3313

No, Jordan and Worthy are both above Jamison. It just so happens he's my favorite player to ever put on a UNC uniform, so like I said -- pure bias.

Like Len Bias?

Luis_Rivera · 02-28-2006, 11:17 AM

I just don't understand why if Duke wins the national championship or not has any bearing on this discussion.

His Own Bad Self · 02-28-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by enuttage

Here's an article on this very thing:

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/411584.html

Good link, enuttage.

But Phil Ford and Bobby Hurley over Jordan? Okaaaaay. Sorry, not quite buying.

David Thompson winning three ACC POY awards in three years of eligibility is insane.

His Own Bad Self · 02-28-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

I just don't understand why if Duke wins the national championship or not has any bearing on this discussion.

Because "greatness" being what it is, all other things being equal, a player who wins a championship will be more highly regarded than a player who doesn't. I tried to tell my boy the same thing you said, but he wasn't having it. I'd still take Thompson or Duncan over Redick, championship or not.

jaxmagicman · 02-28-2006, 11:33 AM

Jordan, Duncan, Thompson.

Chappy · 02-28-2006, 11:44 AM

Everyone where I work says David Thompson, but I never saw him play, so I can't really say.

Go Tribe · 02-28-2006, 12:33 PM

Boozie1580 · 02-28-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Go Tribe

It's a little know fact that the guy with the "JJ" sign is actually a student here at Maryland. He grew up around Duke and stayed a Duke fan. At the Virginia Tech game he showed up wearing all maroon and orange. He got to do the halftime "shootout for a car" thing and the entire arena booed him off the court.

abailey3313 · 02-28-2006, 12:41 PM

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This is still my favorite picture ever.

Y0DA55 · 02-28-2006, 12:49 PM

Fantastic picture

XxCardinal42xX · 02-28-2006, 05:00 PM

To consider JJ Redick in the top 20, yet alone top 5 would be INSANE. If he wins a championship this year? Well, first off that's not going to happen. See JJR and his previous 3 years in the tournament.

There are probably 10 players to come through Chapel Hill that are over JJR, yet alone when you start to consider the Terps, Wake F, etc...and OTHER Duke players.

I can name 5 Duke players that are better/were better than JJR who may or may not have stayed all 4 years. If you want to do the searching, look at Jay Bilas' top 5 of Duke all time, it's pretty accurate.

KurtBevacqua · 02-28-2006, 05:18 PM

If you wanna say who was the best player to ever come out of the ACC, I think some d00d named Jordan wins.

If you wanna say who was the best player ever to play in the ACC, then David Thompson wins easily. Jordan was considered a very good college basketball player, but really blossomed in the NBA. No one thought he was going to become what he did.

My All Best to come out of the ACC team
C Tin Duncan Wake Forrest
F Walter Davis UNC (barely over Billy Cunningham)
F David Thompson NC State
G Michael Jordan UNC
G Mark Price Ga Tech (sorry Phil Ford, Price was a better pro)

Here's a link to a story on the All ACC 50 year team. Some amazing players in there.
http://ramblinwreck.collegesports.co...092602aaa.html

02-28-2006, 10:32 AM	#1
His Own Bad Self All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,221	Best ACC player ever? One of my boys and I were talking hoops yesterday. He told me that if Duke wins the NCAA title this year, J.J. Redick should be considered the greatest player in ACC history. I immediately asked him why, considering the ACC isn't exactly lacking for great players. He used J.J.'s new all-time conference scoring record and the aforementioned possible championship as justification, with the addition that J.J. staying all four years plays an important part in that. I found a listing of the ACC players of the year through history and saw names like David Thompson, Ralph Sampson, Jordan, Len Bias, Danny Ferry, Laettner, Grant Hill, Tim Duncan, and Shane Battier. I came to the conclusion that I could probably put him in the top 5, maybe, considering that Redick is going to be a two-time ACC player of the year, and probably a national player of the year, as well. My top 3 guys, however, are Sampson, Duncan, and Hill. Let me be the first to get this out of the way: "This should have been a poll." There. That's done. OK, what do y'all think?

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XxCardinal42xX Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 76	To consider JJ Redick in the top 20, yet alone top 5 would be INSANE. If he wins a championship this year? Well, first off that's not going to happen. See JJR and his previous 3 years in the tournament. There are probably 10 players to come through Chapel Hill that are over JJR, yet alone when you start to consider the Terps, Wake F, etc...and OTHER Duke players. I can name 5 Duke players that are better/were better than JJR who may or may not have stayed all 4 years. If you want to do the searching, look at Jay Bilas' top 5 of Duke all time, it's pretty accurate.

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KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	If you wanna say who was the best player to ever come out of the ACC, I think some d00d named Jordan wins. If you wanna say who was the best player ever to play in the ACC, then David Thompson wins easily. Jordan was considered a very good college basketball player, but really blossomed in the NBA. No one thought he was going to become what he did. My All Best to come out of the ACC team C Tin Duncan Wake Forrest F Walter Davis UNC (barely over Billy Cunningham) F David Thompson NC State G Michael Jordan UNC G Mark Price Ga Tech (sorry Phil Ford, Price was a better pro) Here's a link to a story on the All ACC 50 year team. Some amazing players in there. http://ramblinwreck.collegesports.co...092602aaa.html __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner