Giants Prospect Questions

UngratefulDead · 05-16-2005, 01:37 AM

The one aspect of baseball I know the least amount is which prospects are actually good, and which aren't. For this, I bow to the superior knowledge of the board. What is the general consensus for the future of these two guys?

Todd Linden
Eddy Martinez-Esteve

Both are putting up impressive numbers in the minors, but I don't really know enough about them to tell if this is a fluke. I've looked up their past stats and Linden has been inconsistant while EME has raked, just curious what others think.

jte87 · 05-16-2005, 01:42 AM

I think Linden is pretty much just "a guy to have on the team". He could be a reserve and not be an embarrassment, but I don't think he will ever be above average.

EME hasn't been around long and is harder to peg for a specific role. I actually watched him play in San Jose this afternoon and he hit a double the other way to drive in a run. But the other pitcher had this slow breaker in his arsenal that wasn't too impressive, and EME looked perplexed whenever it came in. He either watched it for a strike, or looked terrible swinging at it. And his defense is atrcoious. I saw him play in the field at first in one game earlier this year. Yikes! He was the DH today. I think a guy with that many problems in the field for an NL team should not be DHing, he should be working on things in the field, but that's what he's doing. Far from a sure thing, but he could be something someday.

Karros270 · 05-16-2005, 01:44 AM

I don't like the Giants prospects. I don't their prospects for the season one bit.

UngratefulDead · 05-16-2005, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Karros270

I don't like the Giants prospects. I don't their prospects for the season one bit.

Smart-ass Dodger fans..

Joshv02 · 05-16-2005, 01:53 AM

John Sickels likes EME, while Linden -- not so much. http://www.minorleagueball.com/story.../21/123954/700

I was going to write something short about how Linden is in his 4th year in PCL while EME has the defensive limitations of me, but jte already did it.

Cain looks like, but his BB rate is a bit high this year.

dharma panda · 05-16-2005, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

John Sickels likes EME, while Linden -- not so much. http://www.minorleagueball.com/story.../21/123954/700

I was going to write something short about how Linden is in his 4th year in PCL while EME has the defensive limitations of me, but jte already did it.

Cain looks like, but his BB rate is a bit high this year.

Yeah, but how 'bout that Lance Niekro and that Jason Ellison, eh?

UngratefulDead · 05-16-2005, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

John Sickels likes EME, while Linden -- not so much. http://www.minorleagueball.com/story.../21/123954/700

I was going to write something short about how Linden is in his 4th year in PCL while EME has the defensive limitations of me, but jte already did it.

Cain looks like, but his BB rate is a bit high this year.

I discovered that site just before reading this post, and it looks like I'm going to have plenty to read over the next few days.

Joshv02 · 05-16-2005, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dharma panda

Yeah, but how 'bout that Lance Niekro and that Jason Ellison, eh?

Anyone named Niekro be good!

26-27 y/os in the PCL are, well, they ain't gunna be no stars, thats 'fo sho.

Cain, though, Cain looks like . . .

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I discovered that site just before reading this post, and it looks like I'm going to have plenty to read over the next few days.

d00d-- if you have some spare dough, buy his pros book. The site is basically a teaser for the book. The book has some nice write ups and the past 3 years' stats. I like John's writing style, too. He isn't all smarmy, but he still gets his point accross; plus, he is a good combination of stats based approach peppered with scout based assessments.

UngratefulDead · 05-16-2005, 03:12 AM

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Cain, though, Cain looks like . . .

This is the guy I'm excited about, with Valdez to a lesser extent. A 19 year old dominating AA is never a bad sign..

MidKnight · 05-16-2005, 10:26 PM

Todd Linden will never be more than a 4th outfielder barring some sort of life-altering experience. It's unlikely his hot start will continue for too long. Still, he's been catching some eyes lately with his newfound increase in power and patience.

EME has a lot of potential from what I understand. He's putting up good numbers in SanJo, too. He could be in left field once Bonds retires.

Niekro won't amount to much aside from a platoon player, even with his 5 jacks. Ellison's got a shot to remain starting player caliber. Let's see how long he can keep up his numbers.

UngratefulDead · 05-16-2005, 11:05 PM

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EME has a lot of potential from what I understand. He's putting up good numbers in SanJo, too. He could be in left field once Bonds retires.

From what I've heard his defense is pretty terrible out there, but he's young and coming off an injury. Still, he could be a future first sacker..

05-16-2005, 01:37 AM	#1
UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	Giants Prospect Questions The one aspect of baseball I know the least amount is which prospects are actually good, and which aren't. For this, I bow to the superior knowledge of the board. What is the general consensus for the future of these two guys? Todd Linden Eddy Martinez-Esteve Both are putting up impressive numbers in the minors, but I don't really know enough about them to tell if this is a fluke. I've looked up their past stats and Linden has been inconsistant while EME has raked, just curious what others think.

05-16-2005, 01:44 AM	#3
Karros270 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,392	I don't like the Giants prospects. I don't their prospects for the season one bit. __________________ now everybody's praying...don't prey on me

05-16-2005, 01:53 AM	#5
Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	John Sickels likes EME, while Linden -- not so much. http://www.minorleagueball.com/story.../21/123954/700 I was going to write something short about how Linden is in his 4th year in PCL while EME has the defensive limitations of me, but jte already did it. Cain looks like, but his BB rate is a bit high this year. __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP

05-16-2005, 01:42 AM	#2
jte87 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 305	I think Linden is pretty much just "a guy to have on the team". He could be a reserve and not be an embarrassment, but I don't think he will ever be above average. EME hasn't been around long and is harder to peg for a specific role. I actually watched him play in San Jose this afternoon and he hit a double the other way to drive in a run. But the other pitcher had this slow breaker in his arsenal that wasn't too impressive, and EME looked perplexed whenever it came in. He either watched it for a strike, or looked terrible swinging at it. And his defense is atrcoious. I saw him play in the field at first in one game earlier this year. Yikes! He was the DH today. I think a guy with that many problems in the field for an NL team should not be DHing, he should be working on things in the field, but that's what he's doing. Far from a sure thing, but he could be something someday.

05-16-2005, 10:26 PM	#10
MidKnight Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 396	Todd Linden will never be more than a 4th outfielder barring some sort of life-altering experience. It's unlikely his hot start will continue for too long. Still, he's been catching some eyes lately with his newfound increase in power and patience. EME has a lot of potential from what I understand. He's putting up good numbers in SanJo, too. He could be in left field once Bonds retires. Niekro won't amount to much aside from a platoon player, even with his 5 jacks. Ellison's got a shot to remain starting player caliber. Let's see how long he can keep up his numbers.