My Tiny College to Play on ESPN

sebastian0622 · 01-11-2005, 02:14 AM

http://www.grinnell.edu/athletics/espn/

http://www.grinnell.edu

It should be an exciting time on campus. Had I known I would have been on TV, I would have played for them this year...as shallow as that is. I've had a good time playing pickup ball with most of these guys. I invite you all to tune in on February 3 and check out their unique style of play. Expect to see them score 120+ in this one.

[story]

Grinnell College's widely popular men's basketball team will face Beloit College (Wis.) in one of the first regular-season NCAA Division III games to be televised nationally by ESPN's family of networks.

ESPN2 will televise live from Grinnell's brand-new Darby Gymnasium when the Pioneers (4-4, 1-0 MWC) and Buccaneers (2-5, 0-2 MWC) hit the hardwood on Thursday, Feb. 3, 2005, in a Midwest Conference contest at 8 p.m. CST.

"I'm excited to know that our style of play will be seen by the millions of basketball fans who have never seen us play before," Head Coach David Arseneault said. "I think it's great for the two schools involved and great for the game of basketball."

For the past 11 years, Arseneault's teams have led all playing levels in scoring and three-point shooting en route to three Midwest Conference titles and one NCAA Tournament appearance. His full-court pressing, up-tempo system utilizes upwards of 16 players on any given night and is responsible for the program's gaudy offensive numbers. Last season's squad scored an NCAA-record 126.2 ppg, with this year's team not far-behind that record-setting pace with an average of 120.5 ppg to date.

"Our men's team has an excellent and exciting system that uses a large number of players and that is what Division III athletics should aim for," Grinnell College president Russell Osgood said. "Appearing on ESPN2 will also provide us with a wonderful opportunity to showcase our new facility to the rest of the country, our trustees, and other donors who made it possible."

"Grinnell College's unique offensive style of play will make for an interesting and compelling telecast," said Burke Magnus, vice president and general manager, ESPNU. "We are consistently looking for opportunities to showcase all forms of college basketball and look forward to featuring this high-scoring team to our national audience."

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Jonzard · 01-11-2005, 02:19 AM

Sounds like an exciting style of play

yankeesrule · 01-11-2005, 02:27 AM

are they the school espn mag had an article on like last year or somethin about how they have an NHL like system where they just go 100% for a minute or so and then sub out the entire 5 for a new set?

Jonzard · 01-11-2005, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by yankeesrule

are they the school espn mag had an article on like last year or somethin about how they have an NHL like system where they just go 100% for a minute or so and then sub out the entire 5 for a new set?

It sounds like it.

sebastian0622 · 01-11-2005, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by yankeesrule

are they the school espn mag had an article on like last year or somethin about how they have an NHL like system where they just go 100% for a minute or so and then sub out the entire 5 for a new set?

Yep, that's the same college. They'll sub 3-5 men at almost every dead ball. Last year, Woody went for 55 points in 22 minutes, then he went for 47 in 25 minutes the next day. Here's the ESPN the Mag story:

http://www.grinnell.edu/athletics/mb...ublicity/espn/

UngratefulDead · 01-11-2005, 02:35 AM

Don't really know much about basketball but I do like to see unorthodox strategies succeed.

gmo · 01-11-2005, 02:48 AM

Cool. I read that story too. I knew a while back somebody else who went there. At least I think it was there, as many of those midwest & northeast small college names blend together in my mind.

I'll probably check that game out.

I like fast-paced basketball, but I think that is a bit too fast-paced for me though.

Big Willis 16 · 01-11-2005, 02:55 AM

Sounds like it would be tough for any of these players to make it to the NBA after playing such styles in college, yet it still sounds like tons of fun.

My style is, shoot the three, and shrug it off if you miss. And, that was explained in the ESPN article as what Grinnell does. Should be a very fun game to watch. I'll be tuning in.

Dagrims · 01-11-2005, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian0622

"I'm excited to know that our style of play will be seen by the millions of basketball fans who have never seen us play before," Head Coach David Arseneault said.

Or at least hundreds of thousands. I'm surprised that ESPN chose to televise a game of two teams with a combined 6-9 record, unless one of the two was predicted to be excellent this year and it was scheduled in the preseason.

It is cool that your school will be on ESPN, though! Dress with a big shirt with the letters OOTP on it and we'll look for you.

PotatoPeeler · 01-11-2005, 08:51 AM

Cool. A couple of friends that work across the street went to Grinnell. I'll have to give them the heads up in case they don't already know.

yankeesrule · 01-11-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Willis 16

Sounds like it would be tough for any of these players to make it to the NBA after playing such styles in college, yet it still sounds like tons of fun.

My style is, shoot the three, and shrug it off if you miss. And, that was explained in the ESPN article as what Grinnell does. Should be a very fun game to watch. I'll be tuning in.

They're playing D3, they're just doing it for fun/love of the game and maybe some scholarship money.

darkhorse · 01-12-2005, 09:41 PM

So Paul Westhead is coaching basketball at Grinnell, eh? Good for him.

sebastian0622 · 01-25-2005, 03:21 AM

Don't forget about this game...be sure to look for me in the stands. I'll be "wearing" one of these, along with a few dozen fellow students.

http://www.bigshocker.com/

Jestor · 01-25-2005, 11:11 AM

I live about an hour or so away from Beloit

Vris · 01-25-2005, 03:31 PM

That's crazy. But how can you average 120 points a game and still only be at .500? Does the coach teach defense/

sebastian0622 · 01-25-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vris

That's crazy. But how can you average 120 points a game and still only be at .500? Does the coach teach defense/

It's a really down year this year. The three best players from last year all graduated, and there was a huge dropoff between the third best guy and the fourth best guy. Over the past decade Grinnell has won the conference title or been among the top teams in the conference.

The only defense that is really taught is full-court press and perimeter D. Coach A figures that if teams get the ball inside the three point arc, you're best just giving them some token pressure on the shot and keeping the tempo moving.

The logic is that if you can force 25 turnovers and shoot 35% from 3-point range, you can afford to have the other team making 65% of their two point shots.

Vris · 01-25-2005, 07:59 PM

It's an interesting practice, and I'd like to see some sort of it implemented in DI. Only because DIII is such a small sample size (I also attend a small DIII college in the northeast) and the talent levels are so widespread it's difficult to tell if it could work with more talented players.

sebastian0622 · 02-03-2005, 02:11 PM

bump...this is tonight at 8 pm on ESPN2 for those interested.

darkhorse · 02-03-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vris

It's an interesting practice, and I'd like to see some sort of it implemented in DI.

In 1990, Loyola Marymount made it to a regional final, losing to eventual National Champs, UNLV, playing this style of b-ball. LMU defeated defending champs Michigan 149-115 in a 2nd round game in the '90 NCAA tournament. Troy State, Grinnell, and Redlands are all sons of Westhead.

Redlands, a Div. III school in California, is averaging 138.7 points per game this season.

Vris · 02-03-2005, 03:19 PM

Wow, thanks darkhorse. I should do more research.

Sorry sebastian, if I got ESPN2 down here I'd watch.

01-11-2005, 02:14 AM	#1
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	My Tiny College to Play on ESPN http://www.grinnell.edu/athletics/espn/ http://www.grinnell.edu It should be an exciting time on campus. Had I known I would have been on TV, I would have played for them this year...as shallow as that is. I've had a good time playing pickup ball with most of these guys. I invite you all to tune in on February 3 and check out their unique style of play. Expect to see them score 120+ in this one. [story] Grinnell College's widely popular men's basketball team will face Beloit College (Wis.) in one of the first regular-season NCAA Division III games to be televised nationally by ESPN's family of networks. ESPN2 will televise live from Grinnell's brand-new Darby Gymnasium when the Pioneers (4-4, 1-0 MWC) and Buccaneers (2-5, 0-2 MWC) hit the hardwood on Thursday, Feb. 3, 2005, in a Midwest Conference contest at 8 p.m. CST. "I'm excited to know that our style of play will be seen by the millions of basketball fans who have never seen us play before," Head Coach David Arseneault said. "I think it's great for the two schools involved and great for the game of basketball." For the past 11 years, Arseneault's teams have led all playing levels in scoring and three-point shooting en route to three Midwest Conference titles and one NCAA Tournament appearance. His full-court pressing, up-tempo system utilizes upwards of 16 players on any given night and is responsible for the program's gaudy offensive numbers. Last season's squad scored an NCAA-record 126.2 ppg, with this year's team not far-behind that record-setting pace with an average of 120.5 ppg to date. "Our men's team has an excellent and exciting system that uses a large number of players and that is what Division III athletics should aim for," Grinnell College president Russell Osgood said. "Appearing on ESPN2 will also provide us with a wonderful opportunity to showcase our new facility to the rest of the country, our trustees, and other donors who made it possible." "Grinnell College's unique offensive style of play will make for an interesting and compelling telecast," said Burke Magnus, vice president and general manager, ESPNU. "We are consistently looking for opportunities to showcase all forms of college basketball and look forward to featuring this high-scoring team to our national audience." [end story] Last edited by sebastian0622; 02-03-2005 at 02:24 PM.

01-11-2005, 02:19 AM	#2
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	Sounds like an exciting style of play __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

01-11-2005, 02:55 AM	#8
Big Willis 16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,616	Sounds like it would be tough for any of these players to make it to the NBA after playing such styles in college, yet it still sounds like tons of fun. My style is, shoot the three, and shrug it off if you miss. And, that was explained in the ESPN article as what Grinnell does. Should be a very fun game to watch. I'll be tuning in. __________________ A wise man once said "shutup and drink your beer!"

01-11-2005, 08:51 AM	#10
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Cool. A couple of friends that work across the street went to Grinnell. I'll have to give them the heads up in case they don't already know. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

01-12-2005, 09:41 PM	#12
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	So Paul Westhead is coaching basketball at Grinnell, eh? Good for him. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

01-11-2005, 02:27 AM	#3
yankeesrule All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,367	are they the school espn mag had an article on like last year or somethin about how they have an NHL like system where they just go 100% for a minute or so and then sub out the entire 5 for a new set?

01-11-2005, 02:35 AM	#6
UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	Don't really know much about basketball but I do like to see unorthodox strategies succeed.

01-11-2005, 02:48 AM	#7
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,420	Cool. I read that story too. I knew a while back somebody else who went there. At least I think it was there, as many of those midwest & northeast small college names blend together in my mind. I'll probably check that game out. I like fast-paced basketball, but I think that is a bit too fast-paced for me though.

01-25-2005, 03:21 AM	#13
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	Don't forget about this game...be sure to look for me in the stands. I'll be "wearing" one of these, along with a few dozen fellow students. http://www.bigshocker.com/

01-25-2005, 03:31 PM	#15
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	That's crazy. But how can you average 120 points a game and still only be at .500? Does the coach teach defense/ __________________ None Blog it.

01-25-2005, 07:59 PM	#17
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	It's an interesting practice, and I'd like to see some sort of it implemented in DI. Only because DIII is such a small sample size (I also attend a small DIII college in the northeast) and the talent levels are so widespread it's difficult to tell if it could work with more talented players. __________________ None Blog it.

02-03-2005, 02:11 PM	#18
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	bump...this is tonight at 8 pm on ESPN2 for those interested.

02-03-2005, 03:19 PM	#20
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	Wow, thanks darkhorse. I should do more research. Sorry sebastian, if I got ESPN2 down here I'd watch. __________________ None Blog it.