Qestion about remove player from 4o man roster

[CommishJim]

Ok I have a player that is on my active roster 25 man roster with a minor league contract cause he signed a minor league extension right before i flipped the season he now is ok with the move to AAA but when I try to take him off the 40 man roster it saids player refuses assignment please release him or keep him on 40 man roster He already cleared waivers

Any Ideas

[Elendil]

Even if you signed a minor league extension with him, he automatically gets a big-league contract when he is put on the active roster. If he has a "squiggly" by his name he has the right to refuse minors assignment. Nothing you can do about it, but release him or keep him on the active roster. You may want to keep putting him back on waivers until his DFA time runs out, though, in case some other team picks him up (& his salary).

[jmm8356]

You'll just have to keep him on the 40-man or release him, as the dialog box said. I think it's players with 5+ years of MLB service that get the right to refuse removal from the 40-man.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by jmm8356

You'll just have to keep him on the 40-man or release him, as the dialog box said. I think it's players with 5+ years of MLB service that get the right to refuse removal from the 40-man.

There is no setting in the game where a player can refuse removal from the 40 man roster. I believe you're confusing that with refusing assignment to the minors.

The 40 man roster rule is simple, if the player has a big league contract, the game will not let you move him off the 40 man roster. It doesn't come down to the player refusing. The only way to get a player with a big league contract off the 40 man roster is to get him off your team via trade or cut.

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by BruceM

There is no setting in the game where a player can refuse removal from the 40 man roster. I believe you're confusing that with refusing assignment to the minors.

The 40 man roster rule is simple, if the player has a big league contract, the game will not let you move him off the 40 man roster. It doesn't come down to the player refusing. The only way to get a player with a big league contract off the 40 man roster is to get him off your team via trade or cut.

While there's no setting that spells it out, refusing removal from the 40-man roster is a feature in the game. I tried to find an example that would be repeatable, but the best I could do is this:

Take a fresh copy of Career 2004.lg (or a new Standard League), take human control of Chicago(N), and waive C H. Coronas (drag from 40-man to waivers). Three days later, he should clear, and when you demote him (drag from active roster to AAA), you get a message "The player accepts the assignment". Then remove him from the 40-man (drag from 40-man to white box) and you get another "The player accepts the assignment". Accepting implies that he could have refused; thus there are two separate accept/refuse scenarios: minor league assignment and removal from the 40-man roster.

Plus I've had players refuse assignment off the 40-man, as did the original post, so I know it's in there.

[endgame]

Originally Posted by jmm8356

Then remove him from the 40-man (drag from 40-man to white box) and you get another "The player accepts the assignment". Accepting implies that he could have refused; thus there are two separate accept/refuse scenarios: minor league assignment and removal from the 40-man roster.

I can't say I have ever seen the acceptance response when taking a man off of the 40 man roster. Is that specific to the player, do you think?

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by endgame

I can't say I have ever seen the acceptance response when taking a man off of the 40 man roster. Is that specific to the player, do you think?

No... but a player who would refuse removal from the 40-man would also likely refuse a minor league assignment first, so I could understand that it's never come up.

[Bluenoser]

Sorry, but you are incorrect. There is NO feature in the game for a player to refuse removal from the 40 man roster. It's not an option, it cannot happen, in OOTP or IRL. The game saying "player accepts assignment" does not imply the option to refuse is there, it just isn't.

Any player with a major league contract cannot be removed from the 40 man roster, this is not a player option, it is a rule in baseball. Any player with a minor league contract can be removed from the 40 man roster and he has no say in it either way. This is not a player option, it is a rule in baseball.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Sorry, but you are incorrect. There is NO feature in the game for a player to refuse removal from the 40 man roster. It's not an option, it cannot happen, in OOTP or IRL. The game saying "player accepts assignment" does not imply the option to refuse is there, it just isn't.

Any player with a major league contract cannot be removed from the 40 man roster, this is not a player option, it is a rule in baseball. Any player with a minor league contract can be removed from the 40 man roster and he has no say in it either way. This is not a player option, it is a rule in baseball.

here is the confusion some people have......

they wil refuse assignment if there on the 40 man roster but only if there on the 25 man active roster.. that for players that on the 25 man roster, that have the right for refusal because there out of options.

but like brucem said.....if on 40 man roster and dont have a major league contract and is not on the active 25 man roster, they will accept but only have they clear waiver..because if you remove a player off the 40 man roster, they have to clear waivers in ootp

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Sorry, but you are incorrect. There is NO feature in the game for a player to refuse removal from the 40 man roster. It's not an option, it cannot happen, in OOTP or IRL. The game saying "player accepts assignment" does not imply the option to refuse is there, it just isn't.

Any player with a major league contract cannot be removed from the 40 man roster, this is not a player option, it is a rule in baseball. Any player with a minor league contract can be removed from the 40 man roster and he has no say in it either way. This is not a player option, it is a rule in baseball.

Guess I'll have to try harder this time...

Create a new Standard League (no fantasy draft), set all teams to Human control, and put Arizona C J. Lindsey on waivers (drag from the 40-man to the waivers box). Sim three days so he clears waivers, then attempt to remove Lindsey from the 40-man roster (drag from the 40-man to the white box). You get a dialog box that says, "The player would refuse the assignment. Release him or keep him on the 40-Man Roster."

... and Lindsey is on a minor league contract, so it has nothing to do with major/minor league contracts. Just as some players (who have earned the right) refuse assignment to the minors, some players can and do refuse assignment off of the 40-man roster.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by jmm8356

Guess I'll have to try harder this time...

Create a new Standard League (no fantasy draft), set all teams to Human control, and put Arizona C J. Lindsey on waivers (drag from the 40-man to the waivers box). Sim three days so he clears waivers, then attempt to remove Lindsey from the 40-man roster (drag from the 40-man to the white box). You get a dialog box that says, "The player would refuse the assignment. Release him or keep him on the 40-Man Roster."

... and Lindsey is on a minor league contract, so it has nothing to do with major/minor league contracts. Just as some players (who have earned the right) refuse assignment to the minors, some players can and do refuse assignment off of the 40-man roster.

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