Moss's actions justified? Indianapolis thinks so....

Anachronism · 01-11-2005, 08:54 AM

Heard a news clipping this morning of Indy coach Tony Dungy talking about the Moss incident.

He said he totally understands it, and anyone who plays in the NFC would as well. Apparently, whenever Green Bay defeats and opponent, one of the traditions for Green Bay fans is to line up and wait for the away team bus to leave the stadium. As the bus leaves, the whole line of fans moons the bus.

Randy, was just giving back something to the fans.

After hearing this, it puts the whole incident into perspective for me, and I think good on you Randy.

Green Bay fans... you reap what you sew!

http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=51s7V3AM

TC Dale · 01-11-2005, 09:12 AM

Heard that on the morning drive show yesterday morning. Forgot to post that information. Telling information isn't it.

Arlie Rahn · 01-11-2005, 09:23 AM

I don't know, I have a slightly higher expectations for professional athletes that represent the NFL making millions of dollars than a group of Cheeseheads liquored up on two cases of beer.

Maybe it's just me though ...

Cyclone792 · 01-11-2005, 09:37 AM

Well you know the saying... what goes around, comes around... or maybe in this case it's... what goes around, comes down

Dagrims · 01-11-2005, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlie Rahn

I don't know, I have a slightly higher expectations for professional athletes that represent the NFL making millions of dollars than a group of Cheeseheads liquored up on two cases of beer.

Higher expectations, like the NFL player won't actually pull his pants down like the drunken fans do? I agree.

Anachronism · 01-11-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Arlie Rahn

I don't know, I have a slightly higher expectations for professional athletes that represent the NFL making millions of dollars than a group of Cheeseheads liquored up on two cases of beer.

Maybe it's just me though ...

Since when does having money mean that you are any more or less a person than someone else?

Moss was giving back what was due. Was it classy? No... would you hope that he wouldn't do it? Yes... but are his actions now explainable as opposed to being just a "showboating" incident - yes.

With a solid reason "behind" him (sorry, couldn't resist) I can totally understand how Moss - who plays on emotion anyway - might have been caught up in the moment.

TC Dale · 01-11-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Anachronism

Since when does having money mean that you are any more or less a person than someone else?

Moss was giving back what was due. Was it classy? No... would you hope that he wouldn't do it? Yes... but are his actions now explainable as opposed to being just a "showboating" incident - yes.

With a solid reason "behind" him (sorry, couldn't resist) I can totally understand how Moss - who plays on emotion anyway - might have been caught up in the moment.

I also believe that Randy Moss needs his bell rung when he pulls this kind of behavior, or the team needs to fine him and get his head in order...

I don't excuse his behavior, and never will. It didn't excuse his actions, but it was a interesting insight to the NFC Central division that Dungy spoke of yesterday on the Fox Sports morning radio show.

Moss has been talked about ad nauseum, and his antics will only be supported by teams that need his output in game situations or the money he brings in. If a team actually told him it isn't going to fly anymore, he wouldn't do it or he would make sure he goes to a team that would.

(Oh and BTW.. Terrell Owens could be inserted in that post easily as well.)

ihatenames · 01-11-2005, 10:15 AM

I don't know, i just don't see the big deal. I thought it was funny, especially after learning of the mooning tradition. He didn't actually moon anyone. Seems like it was all in good fun and no different than any other celebration.

Crapshoot · 01-11-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TC Dale

I also believe that Randy Moss needs his bell rung when he pulls this kind of behavior, or the team needs to fine him and get his head in order...

I don't excuse his behavior, and never will. It didn't excuse his actions, but it was a interesting insight to the NFC Central division that Dungy spoke of yesterday on the Fox Sports morning radio show.

Moss has been talked about ad nauseum, and his antics will only be supported by teams that need his output in game situations or the money he brings in. If a team actually told him it isn't going to fly anymore, he wouldn't do it or he would make sure he goes to a team that would.

(Oh and BTW.. Terrell Owens could be inserted in that post easily as well.)

Why ? Why is it okay for a bunch of drunk midwesterners to call him every insult in the book (which he's talked about before) and god forbid, he does one semi amusing prank and he's the devil ? Its an inane standard.

andymac · 01-11-2005, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aadik

Why ? Why is it okay for a bunch of drunk midwesterners to call him every insult in the book (which he's talked about before) and god forbid, he does one semi amusing prank and he's the devil ? Its an inane standard.

Hey now, don't be lumping all of us midwesterners in with those Cheeseheads

The Funk · 01-11-2005, 10:27 AM

Yeah, while I'm prety much in the "When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before" school of thought I really don't see the harm in this. The media's reaction to it blew it out of all proportion and made it seem far worse than it was - ie cutting the celebration in replays and moaning about it. It's kind of like bleeping out swear words. People know what they're saying, but often the bleeping makes it seem worse and more clandestine.

In the end I guess sport is entertainment and I'd hate for all the fun and personality to be sucked out of the game.

Anachronism · 01-11-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Funk

The media's reaction to it blew it out of all proportion and made it seem far worse than it was - ie cutting the celebration in replays and moaning about it.

BINGO!

But you know... that's what sells papers!

Besides... how many people reacted negatively just because the annoucers did? My guess is many. I wonder if Michaels knew of the tradition, and had explained the incident by going...

"Ohh! And Moss moons the audience! hahaha.. for those who don't know, when the visiting team is leaving...."

My guess is it wouldn't have received half the coverage it is now...

Skipaway · 01-11-2005, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Funk

Yeah, while I'm prety much in the "When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before" school of thought I really don't see the harm in this. The media's reaction to it blew it out of all proportion and made it seem far worse than it was - ie cutting the celebration in replays and moaning about it. It's kind of like bleeping out swear words. People know what they're saying, but often the bleeping makes it seem worse and more clandestine.

In the end I guess sport is entertainment and I'd hate for all the fun and personality to be sucked out of the game.

I think the teams, the fans, and the media all love this kind of thing. Sometimes teams or media might pretend to think otherwise, but they all know it's good entertainment, and keeps the fuzz going.

seth70liz76 · 01-11-2005, 12:13 PM

I'm not much of a footballer, but I was watching the game with some GB Packer fan friends of mine (not a happy get together) and when Moss did his thing, I was, well, not offended, but thought it was classless . . . until the GB fans explained to me the "tradition" that some of the drunker fans indulge in. In that context, it was funny (but I waited until I left--less upset the already depressed fans more).

Mike D · 01-11-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anachronism

Heard a news clipping this morning of Indy coach Tony Dungy talking about the Moss incident.

He said he totally understands it, and anyone who plays in the NFC would as well. Apparently, whenever Green Bay defeats and opponent, one of the traditions for Green Bay fans is to line up and wait for the away team bus to leave the stadium. As the bus leaves, the whole line of fans moons the bus.

Randy, was just giving back something to the fans.

After hearing this, it puts the whole incident into perspective for me, and I think good on you Randy.

Green Bay fans... you reap what you sew!

http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=51s7V3AM

Sorry but Tony Dungy is a hypocrite. This is the second time he opened his mouth about an NFL thing that has nothing to do with him. The first time was regarding the TO situation and Monday Night Football and he talked about how it was horrible for all the kids watching and the like. But, on his teams website, which is viewable for everyone, there are pictures of the Colts cheerleaders in provactive poses trying to sell calenders. Now I don't care personally about the fact those pictures are on their site, I find it funny that he says what happened with TO is wrong, but looking at half naked cheerleaders on the website is a-ok.

andymac · 01-11-2005, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Sorry but Tony Dungy is a hypocrite. This is the second time he opened his mouth about an NFL thing that has nothing to do with him. The first time was regarding the TO situation and Monday Night Football and he talked about how it was horrible for all the kids watching and the like. But, on his teams website, which is viewable for everyone, there are pictures of the Colts cheerleaders in provactive poses trying to sell calenders. Now I don't care personally about the fact those pictures are on their site, I find it funny that he says what happened with TO is wrong, but looking at half naked cheerleaders on the website is a-ok.

I really doubt Tony Dungy has anything to do with the pictures of chearleaders on the team website.

andymac · 01-11-2005, 12:33 PM

Dola,

I wouldn't even be surprised if he has never even visited the team website.

Skipaway · 01-11-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Sorry but Tony Dungy is a hypocrite. This is the second time he opened his mouth about an NFL thing that has nothing to do with him.

You should question the media that published it, not Tony Dungy himself. He did not send out press releases just to express his view. Someone asked him the question and he answered. He got published more probably only because he's more media-friendly.

jaxmagicman · 01-11-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Sorry but Tony Dungy is a hypocrite. This is the second time he opened his mouth about an NFL thing that has nothing to do with him. The first time was regarding the TO situation and Monday Night Football and he talked about how it was horrible for all the kids watching and the like. But, on his teams website, which is viewable for everyone, there are pictures of the Colts cheerleaders in provactive poses trying to sell calenders. Now I don't care personally about the fact those pictures are on their site, I find it funny that he says what happened with TO is wrong, but looking at half naked cheerleaders on the website is a-ok.

Tony Dungy's comments were about it being an inter-racial couple more than her being halfway nude.

canadiancreed · 01-11-2005, 12:38 PM

Maybe folks figure because he brought up the T.O. story that he should slam his teams website (folks never hearing about dont bite the hand that feeds you I suppose)

Anyways, myself, I dont really get the whole hoo haa, but then agian I dotn watch football unless i'm in Ottawa (lots of NFL and diehard CFL fans there, good times)

and Green Bay is in the Mid-West? dammit I failed my geography test

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Tony Dungy's comments were about it being an inter-racial couple more than her being halfway nude.

He's saying that T.O. shoudl join the 21st Century or that he should?

01-11-2005, 08:54 AM	#1
Anachronism All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 945	Moss's actions justified? Indianapolis thinks so.... Heard a news clipping this morning of Indy coach Tony Dungy talking about the Moss incident. He said he totally understands it, and anyone who plays in the NFC would as well. Apparently, whenever Green Bay defeats and opponent, one of the traditions for Green Bay fans is to line up and wait for the away team bus to leave the stadium. As the bus leaves, the whole line of fans moons the bus. Randy, was just giving back something to the fans. After hearing this, it puts the whole incident into perspective for me, and I think good on you Randy. Green Bay fans... you reap what you sew! http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp...4&nav=51s7V3AM __________________ "Ruth did it on Beer and Hotdogs..."

01-11-2005, 09:12 AM	#2
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,961	Heard that on the morning drive show yesterday morning. Forgot to post that information. Telling information isn't it. __________________ ----------------------------------

01-11-2005, 09:23 AM	#3
Arlie Rahn All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 564	I don't know, I have a slightly higher expectations for professional athletes that represent the NFL making millions of dollars than a group of Cheeseheads liquored up on two cases of beer. Maybe it's just me though ... __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

01-11-2005, 09:37 AM	#4
Cyclone792 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 572	Well you know the saying... what goes around, comes around... or maybe in this case it's... what goes around, comes down __________________ Jason POTD: Co-Commish and Glacier Bay Ice Pirates

01-11-2005, 10:15 AM	#8
ihatenames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rockford Posts: 2,534	I don't know, i just don't see the big deal. I thought it was funny, especially after learning of the mooning tradition. He didn't actually moon anyone. Seems like it was all in good fun and no different than any other celebration. __________________ New Album coming soon!

01-11-2005, 10:27 AM	#11
The Funk All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Watford Posts: 903	Yeah, while I'm prety much in the "When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before" school of thought I really don't see the harm in this. The media's reaction to it blew it out of all proportion and made it seem far worse than it was - ie cutting the celebration in replays and moaning about it. It's kind of like bleeping out swear words. People know what they're saying, but often the bleeping makes it seem worse and more clandestine. In the end I guess sport is entertainment and I'd hate for all the fun and personality to be sucked out of the game. __________________ Talkin' 'bout the issues but keepin' it funky!

01-11-2005, 12:13 PM	#14
seth70liz76 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,634	I'm not much of a footballer, but I was watching the game with some GB Packer fan friends of mine (not a happy get together) and when Moss did his thing, I was, well, not offended, but thought it was classless . . . until the GB fans explained to me the "tradition" that some of the drunker fans indulge in. In that context, it was funny (but I waited until I left--less upset the already depressed fans more). __________________ It was a mistake to come back.

01-11-2005, 12:33 PM	#17
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	Dola, I wouldn't even be surprised if he has never even visited the team website.