Bill James Best Players

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 04:42 PM

Is this list available anywhere, or do I have to purchase the book?

Luis_Rivera · 01-02-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UngratefulDead

Is this list available anywhere, or do I have to purchase the book?

1986 (I believe) historical baseball abstract he goes through every position. Although, it is a bit out of date.

I'm not sure if it's in any of the newer ones.

I'm actually about to order the 2005 one.

Jonzard · 01-02-2005, 05:19 PM

The latest historical baseball abstract (before 2001 season) has it

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 05:20 PM

So, I'd have to buy the book, no list available on a website or anything?

Eckstein 4 Prez · 01-02-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UngratefulDead

So, I'd have to buy the book, no list available on a website or anything?

I haven't looked for it, since I have the book.

By the way, you really should have the book - not just for the list.

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

I haven't looked for it, since I have the book.

By the way, you really should have the book - not just for the list.

I was thinking that, just annoyed by shipping (I'm an impatient bastard), and I wasn't sure which of the many I should buy.

Long_Long_Name · 01-02-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by UngratefulDead

I was thinking that, just annoyed by shipping (I'm an impatient bastard), and I wasn't sure which of the many I should buy.

You're impatient, but you're in no hurry to actualy go get the book. Hmmm.

By the way, there aren't any bookstores in the Bay area?

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

You're impatient, but you're in no hurry to actualy go get the book. Hmmm.

By the way, there aren't any bookstores in the Bay area?

You'd be surprised. I live in a suburb a couple hours from SF. The closest major bookstores are a half hour away and they replaced both bookstores in the mall with f*cking clothes stores. It's a travesty.

LivnLegend · 01-02-2005, 06:07 PM

Buy the book. Trust us.

Long_Long_Name · 01-02-2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UngratefulDead

You'd be surprised. I live in a suburb a couple hours from SF. The closest major bookstores are a half hour away and they replaced both bookstores in the mall with f*cking clothes stores. It's a travesty.

Well, go Montréal suburbs, where one can easily find baseball books, then.

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnLegend

Buy the book. Trust us.

Ah, what the hell. Christmas cash. Which one should I buy, there's a bunch?

Long_Long_Name · 01-02-2005, 06:46 PM

the most recent new historical abstract (the most expensive, probably)

Dargone · 01-02-2005, 06:49 PM

Buy the book...

Dwolfson20 · 01-02-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

the most recent new historical abstract (the most expensive, probably)

Yes... this one. You can get it new for $18 according to amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwolfson20

Yes... this one. You can get it new for $18 according to amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

Thanks for the link, I'll get this one. I still check my mailbox every day like a little kid when I have something ordered.

Dwolfson20 · 01-02-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UngratefulDead

Thanks for the link, I'll get this one. I still check my mailbox every day like a little kid when I have something ordered.

As well you should for this, it's totally worth the money and then some.

AngelinOF · 01-02-2005, 07:48 PM

1 Babe Ruth
2 Honus Wagner
3 Willie Mays
4 Oscar Charleston
5 Ty Cobb
6 Mickey Mantle
7 Ted Williams
8 Walter Johnson
9 Josh Gibson
10 Stan Musial
11 Tris Speaker
12 Henry Aaron
13 Joe DiMaggio
14 Lou Gehrig
15 Joe Morgan
16 Barry Bonds
17 Satchel Paige
18 Eddie Collins
19 Lefty Grove
20 Pete Alexander
21 Mike Schmidt
22 Rogers Hornsby
23 Cy Young
24 Frank Robinson
25 Turkey Stearns
26 Rickey Henderson
27 Pop Lloyd
28 Mel Ott
29 Jimmie Foxx
30 George Brett
31 Mark McGwire
32 Jackie Robinson
33 Pete Rose
34 Eddie Mathews
35 Craig Biggio
36 Warren Spahn
37 Carl Yastrzemski
38 Tom Seaver
39 Arky Vaughn
40 Nap Lajoie
41 Yogi Berra
42 Christy Mathewson
43 Mule Suttles
44 Johnny Bench
45 Jeff Bagwell
46 Bob Gibson
47 Kid Nichols
48 Cal Ripken Jr.
49 Roger Clemens
50 Duke Snider
51 Sandy Koufax
52 Smokey Joe Williams
53 Roy Campanella
54 Tony Gwynn
55 Robin yount
56 Bob Feller
57 Reggie Jackson
58 Ryne Sandberg
59 Charlie Gehringer
60 Wade Boggs
61 Eddie Murray
62 Johnny Mize
63 Harmon Killebrew
64 Rod Carew
65 Buck Leonard
66 Joe Jackson
67 Cristobal Torriente
68 Hank Greenberg
69 Willie McCovey
70 Home Run Baker
71 Al Simmons
72 Mickey Cochrane
73 Ken Griffey Jr.
74 Roberto Clemente
75 Frank Thomas
76 Cool Papa Bell
77 Ernie Banks
78 Steve Carlton
79 Mike Piazze
80 Roberto Alomar
81 Tim Raines
82 Willie Stargell
83 Three Finger Brown
84 Paul Waner
85 Minnie Minoso
86 Willie Wells
87 Ron Santo
88 Frankie Frisch
89 Sam Crawford
90 Al Kaline
91 Brooks Robinson
92 Greg Maddux
93 Barry Larkin
94 Carl Hubbell
95 Martin Dihigo
96 Robin Roberts
97 Carlton Fisk
98 Kirby Puckett
99 Ed Delahanty
100 Billy Williams

UngratefulDead · 01-02-2005, 07:50 PM

Heh. Thanks, AngelinOF, I'll still get the book though.

twins15 · 01-02-2005, 08:43 PM

Yeah definitely get the book.

By the way, anyone know the difference because the newest one and the one previous to that? Aside from the obvious updated player rankings.

Cyclone792 · 01-02-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by twins15

Yeah definitely get the book.

By the way, anyone know the difference because the newest one and the one previous to that? Aside from the obvious updated player rankings.

Not really sure which books you're referring to, but the 2005 version that was referenced earlier in the thread is most likely The 2005 Bill James Handbook which only includes ACTIVE players. The New Bill James Historical Abstract, published circa 2001, is exactly what the name says, a historical abstract, not just active players. Now if you're referring to the historical abstract James published prior to the one in 2001, good luck finding that. James' last abstracts were published during the 1980s and all out of print as far as I know.

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UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	So, I'd have to buy the book, no list available on a website or anything?

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AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	1 Babe Ruth 2 Honus Wagner 3 Willie Mays 4 Oscar Charleston 5 Ty Cobb 6 Mickey Mantle 7 Ted Williams 8 Walter Johnson 9 Josh Gibson 10 Stan Musial 11 Tris Speaker 12 Henry Aaron 13 Joe DiMaggio 14 Lou Gehrig 15 Joe Morgan 16 Barry Bonds 17 Satchel Paige 18 Eddie Collins 19 Lefty Grove 20 Pete Alexander 21 Mike Schmidt 22 Rogers Hornsby 23 Cy Young 24 Frank Robinson 25 Turkey Stearns 26 Rickey Henderson 27 Pop Lloyd 28 Mel Ott 29 Jimmie Foxx 30 George Brett 31 Mark McGwire 32 Jackie Robinson 33 Pete Rose 34 Eddie Mathews 35 Craig Biggio 36 Warren Spahn 37 Carl Yastrzemski 38 Tom Seaver 39 Arky Vaughn 40 Nap Lajoie 41 Yogi Berra 42 Christy Mathewson 43 Mule Suttles 44 Johnny Bench 45 Jeff Bagwell 46 Bob Gibson 47 Kid Nichols 48 Cal Ripken Jr. 49 Roger Clemens 50 Duke Snider 51 Sandy Koufax 52 Smokey Joe Williams 53 Roy Campanella 54 Tony Gwynn 55 Robin yount 56 Bob Feller 57 Reggie Jackson 58 Ryne Sandberg 59 Charlie Gehringer 60 Wade Boggs 61 Eddie Murray 62 Johnny Mize 63 Harmon Killebrew 64 Rod Carew 65 Buck Leonard 66 Joe Jackson 67 Cristobal Torriente 68 Hank Greenberg 69 Willie McCovey 70 Home Run Baker 71 Al Simmons 72 Mickey Cochrane 73 Ken Griffey Jr. 74 Roberto Clemente 75 Frank Thomas 76 Cool Papa Bell 77 Ernie Banks 78 Steve Carlton 79 Mike Piazze 80 Roberto Alomar 81 Tim Raines 82 Willie Stargell 83 Three Finger Brown 84 Paul Waner 85 Minnie Minoso 86 Willie Wells 87 Ron Santo 88 Frankie Frisch 89 Sam Crawford 90 Al Kaline 91 Brooks Robinson 92 Greg Maddux 93 Barry Larkin 94 Carl Hubbell 95 Martin Dihigo 96 Robin Roberts 97 Carlton Fisk 98 Kirby Puckett 99 Ed Delahanty 100 Billy Williams

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UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	Heh. Thanks, AngelinOF, I'll still get the book though.

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